Bear Grylls is a.........
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Murderernth london addick said:When young my grandad took me poaching we hunted everything from rabbit to otter
The rabbits we ate
The fox and otter we sold the fur
He then got me a job with the local butcher working at the cattle mart where I assisted him getting his pigs sheep and cattle into the trucks and back to the slaughter house
I can remember watching the bolt gun hit the animal between the eyes before they were bled out and hung
I even shot a few myself
It's life things get killed to be eaten why is it so shocking that a crocodile got killed to be eaten
If the croc had been killed and not eaten then I can understand it4 -
I agree with the general sentiment on this thread, that thousands of animals die every day as a means to feed us. But I don't think that justifies killing a crocodile for the purpose of entertainment. Makes me feel just as uneasy as those who go to Africa to shoot lions.0
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unless they were making a nice pair of shoesnth london addick said:When young my grandad took me poaching we hunted everything from rabbit to otter
The rabbits we ate
The fox and otter we sold the fur
He then got me a job with the local butcher working at the cattle mart where I assisted him getting his pigs sheep and cattle into the trucks and back to the slaughter house
I can remember watching the bolt gun hit the animal between the eyes before they were bled out and hung
I even shot a few myself
It's life things get killed to be eaten why is it so shocking that a crocodile got killed to be eaten
If the croc had been killed and not eaten then I can understand it1 -
Did you see him on the first week nervously explaining away his swastika tattoo?Dazzler21 said:How much of a knob is that ginger long haired call centre bell end?
I hope the other cayman eats him in the next episode.1 -
Classic "I haven't seen this but that does not prevent me from having a strong opinion!" Cue the show getting more complaints than it did viewers.2
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Well i think we can all agree that Bear Grylls is a stupid bloody name.3
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scabbyhorse said:
NoStu_of_Kunming said:
You've not seen the show, have you?scabbyhorse said:Dress it up how yvou like, Bear Grylls you have to fake it to make it, total arsehole all done for the cameras and edited and to kill a baby croc for entrainment is just shamefull, man is a prick probably couldn't survive a night in bostall woods.
Why people buy into edited tv is beyond me.
It's on tonight, pull your head out of your arse and watch it.
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Yep tried to say it was the Hindu sign for peace...which could have been the case but I doubt it...cafcdave123 said:
Did you see him on the first week nervously explaining away his swastika tattoo?Dazzler21 said:How much of a knob is that ginger long haired call centre bell end?
I hope the other cayman eats him in the next episode.0 -
Is the motion of the swastika not reversed for the nazi version ?Dazzler21 said:
Yep tried to say it was the Hindu sign for peace...which could have been the case but I doubt it...cafcdave123 said:
Did you see him on the first week nervously explaining away his swastika tattoo?Dazzler21 said:How much of a knob is that ginger long haired call centre bell end?
I hope the other cayman eats him in the next episode.0 -
"it means peace, love and unity"
way to dig yourself out of that hole old boy!
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shine166 said:
Is the motion of the swastika not reversed for the nazi version ?Dazzler21 said:
Yep tried to say it was the Hindu sign for peace...which could have been the case but I doubt it...cafcdave123 said:
Did you see him on the first week nervously explaining away his swastika tattoo?Dazzler21 said:How much of a knob is that ginger long haired call centre bell end?
I hope the other cayman eats him in the next episode.
indeed it is.0 -
The point is, is that the animal was killed purely for entertainment. Nothing else. You're kidding yourself if you genuinely think the producers would let them starve or that they're actually isolated.0
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I bet he's never Grilled a Bear in his life, bloody plastic Ray Mears!AFKABartram said:Well i think we can all agree that Bear Grylls is a stupid bloody name.
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Bear is a nickname. His Christian name is fairly ordinary.AFKABartram said:Well i think we can all agree that Bear Grylls is a stupid bloody name.
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The cayman was killed to be eaten in which both entertainment and feeding people was being accounted for.
The cayman was not PURELY killed for entertainment or they wouldn't have been allowed to eat it. That would be a second motive and clouds your so called pure reasoning.
They did it in a humane way to get a meal. They probably didn't kill it sooner as they probably didn't want the meat to spoil. Probably.
HUMANELY: I'd kill a chicken to eat it. I'd kill a rabbit to eat it. I'd kill cow to eat it. I would kill a lamb to eat it. I'd definitely kill a deer to eat it.
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SheffieldRed said:
Bear is a nickname. His Christian name is fairly ordinary.AFKABartram said:Well i think we can all agree that Bear Grylls is a stupid bloody name.
Don't posh folk lumber their kids with some silly names........................2 -
But it wasn't done purely for entertainment because they ate it, they didn't just kill it and have a laugh about it.The Red Robin said:The point is, is that the animal was killed purely for entertainment. Nothing else. You're kidding yourself if you genuinely think the producers would let them starve or that they're actually isolated.
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Well they could have eaten the same meal as the huge production crew, cameramen, sound men and Uncle Tom Cobbly that were there with them. On that basis the croc died needlessly save for the purposes of the programme. Therefore solely entertainment.0
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no production crew, cameramen, soundmen or uncle anything there with them. They have been given cameras to film themselvesShootersHillGuru said:Well they could have eaten the same meal as the huge production crew, cameramen, sound men and Uncle Tom Cobbly that were there with them. On that basis the croc died needlessly save for the purposes of the programme. Therefore solely entertainment.
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Entertainment doesn't have to make people laugh.Croydon said:
But it wasn't done purely for entertainment because they ate it, they didn't just kill it and have a laugh about it.The Red Robin said:The point is, is that the animal was killed purely for entertainment. Nothing else. You're kidding yourself if you genuinely think the producers would let them starve or that they're actually isolated.
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Lol. Yeah right.mrbligh said:
no production crew, cameramen, soundmen or uncle anything there with them. They have been given cameras to film themselvesShootersHillGuru said:Well they could have eaten the same meal as the huge production crew, cameramen, sound men and Uncle Tom Cobbly that were there with them. On that basis the croc died needlessly save for the purposes of the programme. Therefore solely entertainment.
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Any different to killing a chicken or a lamb?0
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/10840522/Bear-Grylls-Theres-nothing-fake-about-The-Island.htmlShootersHillGuru said:
Lol. Yeah right.mrbligh said:
no production crew, cameramen, soundmen or uncle anything there with them. They have been given cameras to film themselvesShootersHillGuru said:Well they could have eaten the same meal as the huge production crew, cameramen, sound men and Uncle Tom Cobbly that were there with them. On that basis the croc died needlessly save for the purposes of the programme. Therefore solely entertainment.
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What reason? Presumably to eat it?
If the guys on the island were not on the island eating croc, they would be at home eating other meats. But probably a lot more meat.1 -
Thanks for that link. I' m still not convinced it's quite as perilous as being made out but it's an interesting link nonetheless.mrbligh said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/10840522/Bear-Grylls-Theres-nothing-fake-about-The-Island.htmlShootersHillGuru said:
Lol. Yeah right.mrbligh said:
no production crew, cameramen, soundmen or uncle anything there with them. They have been given cameras to film themselvesShootersHillGuru said:Well they could have eaten the same meal as the huge production crew, cameramen, sound men and Uncle Tom Cobbly that were there with them. On that basis the croc died needlessly save for the purposes of the programme. Therefore solely entertainment.
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Really ?fattmatt said:What reason? Presumably to eat it?
If the guys on the island were not on the island eating croc, they would be at home eating other meats. But probably a lot more meat.
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Its true. In the first episode they explained that 3 of the blokes had been given a crash course in using and maintaining the cameras. The whole group had also had a crash course in basic survival techniques....how to start a fire, finding and preparing drinkable water, what fruits of the island to avoid etc. All they have are the clothes they stand in, 3 machetes, 2 knives...and probably a radio to call base in an emergency.ShootersHillGuru said:
Lol. Yeah right.mrbligh said:
no production crew, cameramen, soundmen or uncle anything there with them. They have been given cameras to film themselvesShootersHillGuru said:Well they could have eaten the same meal as the huge production crew, cameramen, sound men and Uncle Tom Cobbly that were there with them. On that basis the croc died needlessly save for the purposes of the programme. Therefore solely entertainment.
Now I know a number of you won't believe it....but until proved otherwise these are the only facts we can go on about the show. Of course they wouldn't let them starve etc but they are prepared to leave them unassisted for as long as possible. One thing is for certain, they were fuckin' starving when they caught, killed and ate that Caimen.
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Check the link Draize, it was actually three of Bear's crew stranded with them doing the filming0
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Yeah, of course, that croc came along just when a few blokes with hairy chests started to get a bit hungry.0
