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Relocate the away fans?

CAFCTrev
CAFCTrev Posts: 6,074
in General Charlton
I may be the only one here, but I dont like having the away fans behind a goal. I feel that having the away team attacking a goal with their fans behind it can give them an advantage, act like a "12th man" for them. Seeing a ton of late goals scored by away teams in front of their fans last season is the evidence of this for me, although our defence didnt help at times either!

Many away grounds Ive been to have put the away fans in one of the stands running along the sides of the pitch, which means the home team is attacking a goal with their own fans behind it in both halfs. Im not sure what would work best, maybe give up half of the West Stand to away supporters and try and fill as much of the Jimmy Seed stand with our own as possible.

Just a thought but I think it would make for an interesting discussion at least.
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  • SuperYann
    SuperYann Posts: 130
    Easier to police if they are all in one stand. Would be harder if you had 2 sets in 1 stand.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,874
    Not only the position behind the goal but the Jimmy Seed has some great acoustics, it's a shame when the Covered End is drowned out by 1000 seated Huddersfield fans
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Jolly unsporting chaps.
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,760
    yeah... Its been looked at a lot, Pardew raised it as well.. But the cops arent interested ... would raise the cost of a matchday fro the club, so that means its a no basically ...
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,454
    Sorry but we've done this discussion so many times.

    It's not practical for so many reasons, it been discussed by the Fans Forum and the Club and others have explained the reasons so many times.

    Not going to happen.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,074
    Henry Irving said:

    Sorry but we've done this discussion so many times.

    It's not practical for so many reasons, it been discussed by the Fans Forum and the Club and others have explained the reasons so many times.

    Not going to happen.

    Soooo people think its a good idea, its just the powers that be who wont allow it?
  • Loco
    Loco Posts: 1,037
    CAFCTrev said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Sorry but we've done this discussion so many times.

    It's not practical for so many reasons, it been discussed by the Fans Forum and the Club and others have explained the reasons so many times.

    Not going to happen.

    Soooo people think its a good idea, its just the powers that be who wont allow it?
    People think it's a good idea but it cant happen because of restrictions, until we finish the ground as per the original plans (now updated).
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    It's like groundhog day

    It's like groundhog day

    It's like groundhog day

    It's like groundhog day
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    People agree it's a good idea but in practise it will not be worth the policing costs and other additional costs.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,454
    CAFCTrev said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Sorry but we've done this discussion so many times.

    It's not practical for so many reasons, it been discussed by the Fans Forum and the Club and others have explained the reasons so many times.

    Not going to happen.

    Soooo people think its a good idea, its just the powers that be who wont allow it?
    No, not what I said at all.

    Some people, not all, think it might be a good idea but most have never thought about the cost and other implications and problems.

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  • Norfolk_Addick
    Norfolk_Addick Posts: 2,289
    Would many home fans choose to sit in the Jimmy Seed if away fans were moved? Not sure I would.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,454
    Norfolk_Addick said:

    Would many home fans choose to sit in the Jimmy Seed if away fans were moved? Not sure I would.

    And that's one of the probllems.

    Fans who suggest this are often happy to move other fans from their long time seats in the East and West stands but won't move themselves and don't know if anyone else would. The facilities in the JS are worse than the rest of the ground (even with the newly built kiosk).
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,999
    Change the badge, move the away end, play in blue. Sorted.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,454
    Off_it said:

    Change the badge, move the away end, play in blue. Sorted.

    You forgot run out to "simply the best". : - )
  • ThreadKiller
    ThreadKiller Posts: 8,638
    I'm not going to add anything constructive either
  • adrian
    adrian Posts: 760
    Only time I got into trouble with the OB was at Forest, 15 years ago (that Van Hooydonck!).
    We were seated in the lower part of a stand and the natives would pelt us with coins and other items from above us;
    OB only interested in our reaction and dragged some of us out. Crap team, crap ground, crap fans and crap policing.
    So no, let's keep the JS for the away fans until the Premier League is graced by our arrival and we redevelop that stand.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,074
    Loco said:

    CAFCTrev said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Sorry but we've done this discussion so many times.

    It's not practical for so many reasons, it been discussed by the Fans Forum and the Club and others have explained the reasons so many times.

    Not going to happen.

    Soooo people think its a good idea, its just the powers that be who wont allow it?
    People think it's a good idea but it cant happen because of restrictions, until we finish the ground as per the original plans (now updated).
    There are updated plans to upgrade the Valley?

    Are we talking about the plans that were originally unveiled back in 2005?

  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,705
    Croydon said:

    Not only the position behind the goal but the Jimmy Seed has some great acoustics, it's a shame when the Covered End is drowned out by 1000 seated Huddersfield fans


    Indeed. So how about the North upper chaps relocating to the lower so any noise generated is not swallowed up at the back.
  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,878
    Give them directions to the New Den...
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,232
    We won't be doing any building work at The Valley for the foreseeable future. Richard Murray - Bromley Addicks May 2013.

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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,999
    Baldybonce said:

    Croydon said:

    Not only the position behind the goal but the Jimmy Seed has some great acoustics, it's a shame when the Covered End is drowned out by 1000 seated Huddersfield fans


    Indeed. So how about the North upper chaps relocating to the lower so any noise generated is not swallowed up at the back.
    I've got a better idea. Lets put the away fans in the North Upper and move those fellas to the South with the better acoustics. Job done. Everyones happy.
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,705
    Off_it said:

    Baldybonce said:

    Croydon said:

    Not only the position behind the goal but the Jimmy Seed has some great acoustics, it's a shame when the Covered End is drowned out by 1000 seated Huddersfield fans


    Indeed. So how about the North upper chaps relocating to the lower so any noise generated is not swallowed up at the back.
    I've got a better idea. Lets put the away fans in the North Upper and move those fellas to the South with the better acoustics. Job done. Everyones happy.

    Sacrilege.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,636
    Henry Irving said:

    Sorry but we've done this discussion so many times.

    It's not practical for so many reasons, it been discussed by the Fans Forum and the Club and others have explained the reasons so many times.

    Not going to happen.

    Never stopped us discussing subjects before. By the way what school did you go to.

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,454
    edited June 2013
    Baldybonce said:

    Off_it said:

    Baldybonce said:

    Croydon said:

    Not only the position behind the goal but the Jimmy Seed has some great acoustics, it's a shame when the Covered End is drowned out by 1000 seated Huddersfield fans


    Indeed. So how about the North upper chaps relocating to the lower so any noise generated is not swallowed up at the back.
    I've got a better idea. Lets put the away fans in the North Upper and move those fellas to the South with the better acoustics. Job done. Everyones happy.

    Sacrilege.
    Agree. It's not called the South stand : - )

    But seriously, why is it OK to move fans from the East or West be not the newer north upper?

    All ways someone else who has to move
    Kap10 said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Sorry but we've done this discussion so many times.

    It's not practical for so many reasons, it been discussed by the Fans Forum and the Club and others have explained the reasons so many times.

    Not going to happen.

    Never stopped us discussing subjects before. By the way what school did you go to.

    How about worst Charlton team ever or why is our away support so good? Or which team do you hate most?

    Then why Parky was a genius, are we broke? and by then the season will have started

    : - )
  • maybe_baby
    maybe_baby Posts: 2,609
    Off_it said:

    Change the badge, move the away end, play in blue. Sorted.

    If you move the away end, you might not be able to see the pitch,,,just a thought :-)

  • Absurdistan
    Absurdistan Posts: 8,024
    Think they should remove the roof of the JS or at the very least sound proof it. ;-)
  • cafcjoe
    cafcjoe Posts: 33
    Upper west, send em there then we can have own fans in jimmy seed
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,454
    cafcjoe said:

    Upper west, send em there then we can have own fans in jimmy seed

    Really? Sorry but you've not really thought that one through.

    Can you imagine the secregation issues getting fans in and out let alone during the game when you have 3000k Leeds/Millwall/whoever fans sitting behind the press box and above Charlton fans?

    All to free up a stand I doubt many fans want to sit in anyway.
  • craigcafc
    craigcafc Posts: 629
    Henry Irving said:

    cafcjoe said:

    Upper west, send em there then we can have own fans in jimmy seed

    Really? Sorry but you've not really thought that one through.

    Can you imagine the secregation issues getting fans in and out let alone during the game when you have 3000k Leeds/Millwall/whoever fans sitting behind the press box and above Charlton fans?

    All to free up a stand I doubt many fans want to sit in anyway.
    I imagine it was not a sincere post...
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,583
    They will only be moved if we ever fill in the SE Corner and rebuild the Jimmy Seed.

    So never

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