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  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    Personally, if we are not hard up, I wouldn't take 2.5 million for him. For one he has been part of a successful side and at the moment we do not know if he has maximized his potential. A successful year in the Championship would certainly increase his value. Secondly I doubt much of the transfer fee would find it's way back into player acquisitions. I'm hoping for a quiet day.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,211
    Mikey-cafc said:

    Everton and Newscastle also linked with him. Was in the sun this morning

    His agent or our agent earning his money their.

    Let's throw some other names into the press to put pressure on Villa and bump the price.
  • DickVanDykesDiscoDog
    DickVanDykesDiscoDog Posts: 1,021
    Henry Irving said:

    Mikey-cafc said:

    Everton and Newscastle also linked with him. Was in the sun this morning

    His agent or our agent earning his money their.

    Let's throw some other names into the press to put pressure on Villa and bump the price.
    Barca !!
    Real Madrid!!
    Juve !!
    PSG !!
    AFC Hornchurch !!!
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,430
    johnny73 said:

    Personally, if we are not hard up, I wouldn't take 2.5 million for him.

    Seriously? Anywhere near that figure and nobody, not SCP, not the board and certainly not Stephens, will even think twice about it.

  • Red_Pete_in_Dubai
    Red_Pete_in_Dubai Posts: 2,764
    tricky said:

    I think a lot of the reasons for his low marks in the player ratings is because people seem to have this misconception that he is thUe type of player who breaks late into the box, and so mark him down for not doing that. He isn't that kind of player. He's closer to Michael Carrick than Steven Gerrard. He keeps things ticking over, receiving and giving the ball, creating space for the killer pass.

    He sometimes loses concentration, he sometimes goes missing, but if he can work on these then he will be a great rather than good player.

    That said, for £2.5m, I'd take it, no question.

    Let's be honest, most people marking players on here don't watch the game the same way professional scouts do.
  • Marriott110
    Marriott110 Posts: 1,528
    2 million profit after half 3/4 of a season playing for us ( argubly our best spell was when he was injured too) i'd bite their hand off and drive him up myself. ( if i could drive) but alas i'll buy him a train ticket and a ham salad sandwhich for his journey!
  • LoneRanger88
    LoneRanger88 Posts: 268
    edited August 2012
    It will be interesting to see if villa still sign stephens considering the fact they have had a bid accepted for dempsey. Maybe liverpool will make another bid for him.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,976
    For £2.5m I'd give him a piggy back up there.
    Barefoot.
    In a mankini
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,755
    But could you make it to Birmingham by the deadline?
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,159
    I do like Dale. He's learning a new role in that quarterback style position so he does go missing and fails to impose himself sometimes but at 22 he's got a lot of time to grow into it. He'll probably get better facilities to learn at Villa but he'll get far less football. He's nowhere near ready fro the Prem so I'd imagine he'd be loaned out next season if Villa's squad stays as small as it has been recently. If we kept him I'd be very happy but if we got a large fee then I think we'd have done well. Don't see £2.5m being realistic, but then Lambert did pay £3m for Lowton
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  • NiccoCAFC
    NiccoCAFC Posts: 7
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11684/8036576?

    Looks like he'll be definitely going.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    Swisdom said:

    For £2.5m I'd give him a piggy back up there.
    Barefoot.
    In a mankini

    Don't make promises you can't keep! :-0

    Can't wait to see this one on SSN

  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    He was out for a large part of last season and wasn't missed .. Take The Money
  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    We're apparently in talks with Southampton regarding Dean Hammond.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,371
    tricky said:

    I think a lot of the reasons for his low marks in the player ratings is because people seem to have this misconception that he is the type of player who breaks late into the box, and so mark him down for not doing that. He isn't that kind of player. He's closer to Michael Carrick than Steven Gerrard. He keeps things ticking over, receiving and giving the ball, creating space for the killer pass.

    He sometimes loses concentration, he sometimes goes missing, but if he can work on these then he will be a great rather than good player.

    That said, for £2.5m, I'd take it, no question.

    Agree - I had the same thought on the Carrick rather than Gerrard comparison. Powell seems to want him to develop in that role. Personally I mark him down as he's still learning and making mistakes. In that position you want someone that rarely gives the ball away but can also defend well - he's still got weaknesses in both areas.

    I've said before I think he might really push on at some point. It'll be interesting to see, assuming he signs for Villa, if playing with better players helps him or simply means he doesn't get enough football.
  • loe.ldn.wpack
    loe.ldn.wpack Posts: 235
    johnny73 said:

    Personally, if we are not hard up, I wouldn't take 2.5 million for him. For one he has been part of a successful side and at the moment we do not know if he has maximized his potential. A successful year in the Championship would certainly increase his value. Secondly I doubt much of the transfer fee would find it's way back into player acquisitions. I'm hoping for a quiet day.

    EXACTLY. A successful season in the Championship we could be looking at waay more. If his price is 2.5 mill now it could be 6 mill by next summer - just by virtue of having played at a higher level for a season.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    Saga Lout said:

    We're apparently in talks with Southampton regarding Dean Hammond.

    Good addition to what we already have (and a step up from Russell /Hughes last year). But would still need to replace Stephens techincal ability.
  • Addickted4life
    Addickted4life Posts: 7,467
    Bubble said:

    CAR WATCH - still in the Car Park

    @Bubble go and ask him what the transfer price is. If its below £2 Mill then kidnap him and hold him for ransom until Villa pay us all the cash we want upfront. Problem solved.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,800
    My issue with Stephens going, is the lack of a ball player in the midfielder, and Hammond isn't the answer there
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,631
    Stephens wants to leave. Well I didn't see that one coming :D
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  • daveaddick
    daveaddick Posts: 1,926
    Just looked on Sky and it allegedly confirms that Stephens has told the club he wants to leave for Villa and the offer is £2M which we should snap their hands off for..sorry I think he's a bit overrated and that is a good deal for a player who is yet to really prove his worth.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    Rothko said:

    My issue with Stephens going, is the lack of a ball player in the midfielder, and Hammond isn't the answer there

    THIS.

    Need (and surely can now afford) Hammond plus one more.

  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    Rothko said:

    My issue with Stephens going, is the lack of a ball player in the midfielder, and Hammond isn't the answer there

    Was an issue with Stephens here.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,914
    loe.ldn.wpack said:

    johnny73 said:

    Personally, if we are not hard up, I wouldn't take 2.5 million for him. For one he has been part of a successful side and at the moment we do not know if he has maximized his potential. A successful year in the Championship would certainly increase his value. Secondly I doubt much of the transfer fee would find it's way back into player acquisitions. I'm hoping for a quiet day.

    EXACTLY. A successful season in the Championship we could be looking at waay more. If his price is 2.5 mill now it could be 6 mill by next summer - just by virtue of having played at a higher level for a season.

    or he stays and people realise he never was a 2.5mil Premier standard player
  • Addickforlife
    Addickforlife Posts: 2,101
    shine166 said:

    loe.ldn.wpack said:

    johnny73 said:

    Personally, if we are not hard up, I wouldn't take 2.5 million for him. For one he has been part of a successful side and at the moment we do not know if he has maximized his potential. A successful year in the Championship would certainly increase his value. Secondly I doubt much of the transfer fee would find it's way back into player acquisitions. I'm hoping for a quiet day.

    EXACTLY. A successful season in the Championship we could be looking at waay more. If his price is 2.5 mill now it could be 6 mill by next summer - just by virtue of having played at a higher level for a season.

    or he stays and people realise he never was a 2.5mil Premier standard player

    He's going to be worth a lot more than 2.5mil in the future. Once he irons out a few concentration issues in his game he will be a very very classy player for years to come.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,914
    Addickforlife said:

    shine166 said:

    loe.ldn.wpack said:

    johnny73 said:

    Personally, if we are not hard up, I wouldn't take 2.5 million for him. For one he has been part of a successful side and at the moment we do not know if he has maximized his potential. A successful year in the Championship would certainly increase his value. Secondly I doubt much of the transfer fee would find it's way back into player acquisitions. I'm hoping for a quiet day.

    EXACTLY. A successful season in the Championship we could be looking at waay more. If his price is 2.5 mill now it could be 6 mill by next summer - just by virtue of having played at a higher level for a season.

    or he stays and people realise he never was a 2.5mil Premier standard player

    He's going to be worth a lot more than 2.5mil in the future. Once he irons out a few concentration issues in his game he will be a very very classy player for years to come.
    Future maybe, 6 mil next season... not.
  • Addickforlife
    Addickforlife Posts: 2,101
    shine166 said:

    Addickforlife said:

    shine166 said:

    loe.ldn.wpack said:

    johnny73 said:

    Personally, if we are not hard up, I wouldn't take 2.5 million for him. For one he has been part of a successful side and at the moment we do not know if he has maximized his potential. A successful year in the Championship would certainly increase his value. Secondly I doubt much of the transfer fee would find it's way back into player acquisitions. I'm hoping for a quiet day.

    EXACTLY. A successful season in the Championship we could be looking at waay more. If his price is 2.5 mill now it could be 6 mill by next summer - just by virtue of having played at a higher level for a season.

    or he stays and people realise he never was a 2.5mil Premier standard player

    He's going to be worth a lot more than 2.5mil in the future. Once he irons out a few concentration issues in his game he will be a very very classy player for years to come.
    Future maybe, 6 mil next season... not.
    Ahh yes, fair point
  • daveaddick
    daveaddick Posts: 1,926
    £6 million give me a break
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    6million haha, people have been saying they would accept 500k. I would happily take 2.5million as long as it is a minimum of 1.5-2 up front.
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596

    I didn't realise he was a "schemer".

    That's got to add at least £1 million to the price

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