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England up to 4th in Fifa world rankings

MrOneLung
MrOneLung Posts: 26,900
edited July 2012 in Charlton International
1. Spain 2. Germany 3. Uruguay 4. England 5. Portugal 6. Italy 7. Argentina 8. Netherlands 9. Croatia 10. Denmark 11. Brazil 12. Greece 13. Russia 14. France 15. Chile 16. Ivory Coast 17. Sweden 18. Czech Republic 19. Mexico 20. Japan

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  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    thats just daft. must be the first time Brazil have been out of the top 10 ever.
  • dabos
    dabos Posts: 2,715
    Although the order is questionable, the only way the rankings can be done is looking at results, weighting the most recent ones higher than those from a couple of years ago.

    Our results in the previous two qualifying campaigns have been nearly flawless, hence our high position. Who have we lost to from those teams in recent years? Germany in WC2010, Italy in Euro2012, France in a friendly and Netherlands in a friendly.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,076
    But I thought Sepp Blatter hated England, why aren't we 78th?
  • 000__Jaaaaay__000
    000__Jaaaaay__000 Posts: 2,342
    This is so silly. England 4th? argentina would destroy england in a one off match
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,960
    Don't tell Nicklas Bendtner that Denmark are better than Brazil, his ego is large enough as it is :-)
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited July 2012
    For what possible reason has our ranking improved?

    Edit, just read dabos' post.
  • cafcpolo
    cafcpolo Posts: 3,815
    This is so silly. England 4th? argentina would destroy england in a one off match
    We also beat Spain in a one off game, we should be number one!!
  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,373
    We were only beaten on penalties by the the runners up of the European Cup so its a fair reflection of where we are in the the football world.
    Remember, Germany were beat in normal time by Italy.

    Cant believe I,ve written that.
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    This is an outrage, I demand that we are considered to be more crap.
  • ken from bexley
    ken from bexley Posts: 5,087
    Just goes to prove the results of using stats as the tenplate in football.
    What was that saying, lies, damm lies, and statistics........

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  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    This is an outrage, I demand that we are considered to be more crap.
    There goes P54 running England down again. Sigh.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,373
    This is an outrage, I demand that we are considered to be more crap.
    Haha, great response!

    I think in a strange way we kind of underrate the English national side in this country. We do win a lot more than we lose but we just seem to choke in tournaments at the knockout stages.

    When you look at countries like France and Holland, they have much more history in getting binned off by small sides in the group stages of tournaments.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,278
    When are the next South American Championships?

    I assume that big three there will all jump up the table then.
  • Addick90
    Addick90 Posts: 677
    Brazil will probably stay in a fairly low position before their own tournament due to the lack of qualifying games for it, though they do have the confederations cup 2013
  • dabos
    dabos Posts: 2,715
    When are the next South American Championships?

    I assume that big three there will all jump up the table then.
    2015 in Chile. Uruguay won the Copa America in 2011. This, coupled with their excellent showing in WC2010, explains their high ranking.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,342
    The fact that teams slip down due to holding the tournament is rubbish, this means Brazil will be ranked about 25th by the time 2014 comes round. Have a look through the rankings and look at some of the teams in the 30-70 bracket, ridiculous
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,814
    But but but they hate us...
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,373
    Brazil 2014 should be really interesting. The pressure on the Brazillian team to win on home soil will be absolutely enormous.
  • DRF
    DRF Posts: 2,455
    Complete and total nonsense. How can England and Portugal be higher than Italy?

    Anyone who thinks that England gets a rough deal form Fifa should take a long hard look at this list and Englands recent results. Its clear favouritism.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,771
    Staistically, we have beaten Spain recently, and didn't lose in the Euros so you can sort of see why it might be. But we know that we are a long way off being 4th best in reality.

    I suppose the problem is the weightings - we might beat Spainn in a friendly and Wembley but could we beat them in a meaningful game?

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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,381
    Ridiculous, BUT we did manage a 0-0 with the Euro Championship runners uppers. The ranking system gets more and more like Golf or Tennis in which a player can reach number one without winning a tournament of any note. Let's hope that the English squad take a pride in this overinflated ranking and attempts to play up to it.
  • dabos
    dabos Posts: 2,715
    edited July 2012
    Complete and total nonsense. How can England and Portugal be higher than Italy?
    Probably because Italy have lost to Russia, United States, Slovakia and Ireland in the last 2 years, none of whom are that good. Also, Italy only won 2 games at Euro 2012, against Germany and Ireland (I'm not sure how the penalty win over England would go into the rankings). They were also dreadful in the 2010 World Cup.

    Of course it could be argued that the World Cup in 2010 should have no bearing on the current strength of the sides, but how else are they supposed to rank them? It has to be based upon results over the last few years.
  • DRF
    DRF Posts: 2,455
    Staistically, we have beaten Spain recently, and didn't lose in the Euros so you can sort of see why it might be. But we know that we are a long way off being 4th best in reality.

    I suppose the problem is the weightings - we might beat Spainn in a friendly and Wembley but could we beat them in a meaningful game?
    I think you might have missed the Italy game...
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,767
    Italy didn't beat us in open play - they only beat us on penalties.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,771
    I'm pretty sure- penalty shoot outs don't influence the rankings - which is probably correct.
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,457
    If they did we would be considerably lower in the rankings!
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,373
    Am I right in suggesting that apart from the Germany game in 2010, we haven't lost a tournament game in open play since 2002 against Brazil?!
  • Mortimerician
    Mortimerician Posts: 5,222
    What a lot of shite. What's the point of having tournaments if FIFA then produce rankings based on vapour? At least they seem to have finally got their heads around the fact that the Czechs and Norweegees aren't in the top 4. The only vaguely accurate aspect of it is that Spain are at one and that 2 first seeds from the Euros didn't make the top 20. Honestly I shouldn't look at these things, it's like the top 100 lists that have the Spice Girls above the Stones, it's just an exercise in stupidity.
  • Shag
    Shag Posts: 4,555
    Am I right in suggesting that apart from the Germany game in 2010, we haven't lost a tournament game in open play since 2002 against Brazil?!

    France in 2004 as well but apart from that you're right
  • Melrose
    Melrose Posts: 836
    Hilarious!!

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