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40 + 40 x 0 + 1 =??? - to solve an office argument!!!

Sonicstud85
Sonicstud85 Posts: 2,178
edited November 2011 in Not Sports Related
Some say 1 some say 41?!?
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,304
    41
  • Bagpuss
    Bagpuss Posts: 334
    41
  • Sonicstud85
    Sonicstud85 Posts: 2,178
    That's that then..... Time to pick up the beer tokens!!
  • DaveStorry
    DaveStorry Posts: 990
    1
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,339
    edited November 2011
    41, due to something normal people have never heard of called BODMAS, apparently. I still think it's 1...
  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,035
    If there was brackets it would be 41....but theres not so it's 1  8-)
  • Its_Hamer_Time
    Its_Hamer_Time Posts: 1,565
    1. Anything times 0 is 0 isn't it? Use a calculator.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,339
    edited November 2011
    Nope, look up BODMAS.
  • mid_life_crisis
    mid_life_crisis Posts: 3,275
    Written like that the answer is 1.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,339
    edited November 2011
    Nope, LOOK UP BODMAS!!!!

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  • Its_Hamer_Time
    Its_Hamer_Time Posts: 1,565
    Isn't BODMAS only when there are brackets involved, hence the B. I'm pretty sure its 1.
  • Addickted4life
    Addickted4life Posts: 7,479
    Its got to be 1 as 40 + 40 x 0 = 0 so you just plus 1, easy.
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    it is 41 - unless brackets then you evaluate multiplication ahead of addition
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,339
    NO! The gist of it is that the part of the equation involving the multiplication symbol is effectively bracketed off, whether they are there or not - bollocks isn't it... but true.  
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,264

    1

     

    40+40 =80

    80x0 = 0

    0+1=1

  • mid_life_crisis
    mid_life_crisis Posts: 3,275
    In the real world the answer is 1.
  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952

    No brackets so the answer is 1.

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,477
    NO! The gist of it is that the part of the equation involving the multiplication symbol is effectively bracketed off, whether they are there or not - bollocks isn't it... but true.  
    Never knew why that was the case when they taught us BODMAS at School but AA is correct.
  • Its_Hamer_Time
    Its_Hamer_Time Posts: 1,565
    There are two answers, the calculater way and the BODMAS way.... I feel sorry for kids doing maths...
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,181
    That sum makes no sense, it's like a sentence with no grammar. Try expressing it in words or give an example of when you would do something like that.

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  • Addickted4life
    Addickted4life Posts: 7,479
    I just put in a calculator and got 41. No idea how that works, another reason why I'm not taking maths for A level.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,220
    1
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456

    Only Bodmus if there are brackets and/or multipliers

    It's 1.

  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,339
    edited November 2011

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BODMAS

    Not according to this...

     

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,264

    Order of Operations

    Do things in Brackets First. Example:

    yes 6 × (5 + 3)=6 × 8=
    48
    no 6 × (5 + 3) =30 + 3=
    33
    		(wrong)

    Exponents (Powers, Roots) before Multiply, Divide, Add or Subtract. Example:

    yes 5 × 22=5 × 4=
    20
    no 5 × 22=102=
    100
    		(wrong)

    Multiply or Divide before you Add or Subtract. Example:

    yes 2 + 5 × 3=2 + 15=
    17
    no 2 + 5 × 3 =7 × 3=
    21
    		(wrong)

    Otherwise just go left to right. Example:

    yes 30 ÷ 5 × 3 =6 × 3=
    18
    no 30 ÷ 5 × 3 =30 ÷ 15=
    2
    		(wrong)

    How Do I Remember It All ... ? BODMAS !
    B
    		Brackets first
    O
    		Orders (ie Powers and Square Roots, etc.)
    DM
    		Division and Multiplication (left-to-right)
    AS
    		Addition and Subtraction (left-to-right)
  • Folev the red
    Folev the red Posts: 2,087
    Defo 41
  • Sonicstud85
    Sonicstud85 Posts: 2,178
    I just put in a calculator and got 41. No idea how that works, another reason why I'm not taking maths for A level.
    Try putting it in a scientific calculator... Gospel! 42!
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,220

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BODMAS

    Not according to this...

     


    huh, not gonna believe wiki ;-) ... sticking to my answer of 1 ... which is the most logical
  • Sonicstud85
    Sonicstud85 Posts: 2,178
    Fat fingers - 41!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,264

    Hmm it's either 41 or 683  :-)

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