I set off at 1:30pm and thought it would get called off, but foolishly continued the drive thinking better to be safe than sorry.
Ref should have called it off 4 hours earlier to give people a chance, absolutely dreadful decision.
Have to say as well, in all my years driving, that's been the worst conditions I've driven in I can remember.
I saw the aftermath of one accident, I think I saw traffic cause of a local-ish one, and was nearly part of one where another driver was driving erratically which caused a car near me to slightly swerve.
I genuinely can't stand people who drive like twats in these conditions. You save seconds to at best minutes and it's so risky.
I never normally do it but I actually had a go at one driver today. Felt a bit bad afterwards but it winds me up how people don't consider others in their cars or the cars they're driving near.
It's something ridiculous like a 30% increase of a car fatality in even light rain and people swerve and undercut in torrential rains.
75% of weather conditions related accidents occur cause of rain, and 45% + happen during rainfall.
Sorry for the rant but I couldn't believe some of the state of the driving I saw today, winds me right up. Just added to my anger with the postponement
Can't wait for the Vlog.
Tbf I could have just recorded myself moaning about how shit other drivers are for 20 minutes. 😄
Whereas you were of course driving in an absolutely correct and faultless fashion.🤥😴😇
I can't remember exactly which year but we lost a derby at Selhurst against the stripeys when the ball stuck in the mud in the penalty box and a Palace forward had a tap-in as a result.
I don't remember leaving, thinking "all part of the game, I've played in worse" etc.
Be careful what you wish for, some of you...
There was the FA Cup match in the late 80s at The Hawthorns where it pissed down all day (and I'm sure the urinals in the away end didn't have a roof) with big puddles in the pitch but the match went ahead.
Lower league West Brom turned over top flight Charlton (for the benefit of the MoTD cameras, probably why the game didn't get called off) with a goalmouth puddle helping the Baggies.
Remember us missing a penalty which improbably hit the inside of both posts, can’t remember who took it.
I set off at 1:30pm and thought it would get called off, but foolishly continued the drive thinking better to be safe than sorry.
Ref should have called it off 4 hours earlier to give people a chance, absolutely dreadful decision.
Have to say as well, in all my years driving, that's been the worst conditions I've driven in I can remember.
I saw the aftermath of one accident, I think I saw traffic cause of a local-ish one, and was nearly part of one where another driver was driving erratically which caused a car near me to slightly swerve.
I genuinely can't stand people who drive like twats in these conditions. You save seconds to at best minutes and it's so risky.
I never normally do it but I actually had a go at one driver today. Felt a bit bad afterwards but it winds me up how people don't consider others in their cars or the cars they're driving near.
It's something ridiculous like a 30% increase of a car fatality in even light rain and people swerve and undercut in torrential rains.
75% of weather conditions related accidents occur cause of rain, and 45% + happen during rainfall.
Sorry for the rant but I couldn't believe some of the state of the driving I saw today, winds me right up. Just added to my anger with the postponement
Can't wait for the Vlog.
Tbf I could have just recorded myself moaning about how shit other drivers are for 20 minutes. 😄
Whereas you were of course driving in an absolutely correct and faultless fashion.🤥😴😇
Ah so you were the rogue driver, sorry for having a go mate
That pitch is a shocker. No wonder it got called off. Looks more like a swimming pool.
makes you almost think, perhaps they didn't fancy playing HMS Piss the League today, perhaps because the weather may have suited Jones's rampant Tugboat.
I can't remember exactly which year but we lost a derby at Selhurst against the stripeys when the ball stuck in the mud in the penalty box and a Palace forward had a tap-in as a result.
I don't remember leaving, thinking "all part of the game, I've played in worse" etc.
Be careful what you wish for, some of you...
There was the FA Cup match in the late 80s at The Hawthorns where it pissed down all day (and I'm sure the urinals in the away end didn't have a roof) with big puddles in the pitch but the match went ahead.
Lower league West Brom turned over top flight Charlton (for the benefit of the MoTD cameras, probably why the game didn't get called off) with a goalmouth puddle helping the Baggies.
Remember us missing a penalty which improbably hit the inside of both posts, can’t remember who took it.
I can't remember exactly which year but we lost a derby at Selhurst against the stripeys when the ball stuck in the mud in the penalty box and a Palace forward had a tap-in as a result.
I don't remember leaving, thinking "all part of the game, I've played in worse" etc.
Be careful what you wish for, some of you...
There was the FA Cup match in the late 80s at The Hawthorns where it pissed down all day (and I'm sure the urinals in the away end didn't have a roof) with big puddles in the pitch but the match went ahead.
Lower league West Brom turned over top flight Charlton (for the benefit of the MoTD cameras, probably why the game didn't get called off) with a goalmouth puddle helping the Baggies.
Remember us missing a penalty which improbably hit the inside of both posts, can’t remember who took it.
I can't remember exactly which year but we lost a derby at Selhurst against the stripeys when the ball stuck in the mud in the penalty box and a Palace forward had a tap-in as a result.
I don't remember leaving, thinking "all part of the game, I've played in worse" etc.
Be careful what you wish for, some of you...
There was the FA Cup match in the late 80s at The Hawthorns where it pissed down all day (and I'm sure the urinals in the away end didn't have a roof) with big puddles in the pitch but the match went ahead.
Lower league West Brom turned over top flight Charlton (for the benefit of the MoTD cameras, probably why the game didn't get called off) with a goalmouth puddle helping the Baggies.
Remember us missing a penalty which improbably hit the inside of both posts, can’t remember who took it.
The referees at this level are absolute shite even with no match to officiate Whatever time that chump got to the ground it was blindingly obvious the match wouldn’t be completed with the worsening deluge on the saturated pitch That guff about ‘giving the groundstaff every chance to get the pitch playable’ is wretched insulting bullshit Gill dropped a bollock and is spinning total horse shit in the vain hope of covering his worthless arse Either that or he couldn’t be arsed to get there at a decent time As bad as that prancing ninny Andy D’Urso who fucked us over on a chilly Boxing Day a few years back (teenagers ask your Dad) The football league will let it slide of course because the only “stakeholders” 🤮 who are inconvenienced are we supporters about whom football authorities do not give one single fuck We should en masse send expense claims to EFL like we would to train companies when they balls up their services.
I know its only Nathan's word, but if the referee has called it off because of the forecast, rather than the conditions - Why wait so long then?
I don't know how you can call off a game because of what might happen.
Surely you start the match & then abandon it if needs be.
Golfie, if you start the game in these conditions and then have to call it off then you do that because the ball is not moving or it's become a risk to the players, also just suppose one of the sides had taken a two nil lead and the game got called off after 45 mins, the angst on here would be far worse.
That's a reasonable risk to take for both sides.
Doncaster Rovers at The Valley a few years back.....?
When we played Doncaster away later that season a female Donny fan had a right go at me because of that. I politely told her that it wasn't mine or Charlton s fault the game was called off it was down to the Weather and the Ref. She was still abusing me as her husband took her away. Bloody Norverners
That pitch is a shocker. No wonder it got called off. Looks more like a swimming pool.
makes you almost think, perhaps they didn't fancy playing HMS Piss the League today, perhaps because the weather may have suited Jones's rampant Tugboat.
The only game I’ve gone to before that was called off when I got there was Selhurst Park for I think a home match possibly NYD against Wimbledon or West Ham , so late 80’s
I set off at 1:30pm and thought it would get called off, but foolishly continued the drive thinking better to be safe than sorry.
Ref should have called it off 4 hours earlier to give people a chance, absolutely dreadful decision.
Have to say as well, in all my years driving, that's been the worst conditions I've driven in I can remember.
I saw the aftermath of one accident, I think I saw traffic cause of a local-ish one, and was nearly part of one where another driver was driving erratically which caused a car near me to slightly swerve.
I genuinely can't stand people who drive like twats in these conditions. You save seconds to at best minutes and it's so risky.
I never normally do it but I actually had a go at one driver today. Felt a bit bad afterwards but it winds me up how people don't consider others in their cars or the cars they're driving near.
It's something ridiculous like a 30% increase of a car fatality in even light rain and people swerve and undercut in torrential rains.
75% of weather conditions related accidents occur cause of rain, and 45% + happen during rainfall.
Sorry for the rant but I couldn't believe some of the state of the driving I saw today, winds me right up. Just added to my anger with the postponement
Did you have to drive? No public transport options?
I know its only Nathan's word, but if the referee has called it off because of the forecast, rather than the conditions - Why wait so long then?
I don't know how you can call off a game because of what might happen.
Surely you start the match & then abandon it if needs be.
Golfie, if you start the game in these conditions and then have to call it off then you do that because the ball is not moving or it's become a risk to the players, also just suppose one of the sides had taken a two nil lead and the game got called off after 45 mins, the angst on here would be far worse.
That's a reasonable risk to take for both sides.
Doncaster Rovers at The Valley a few years back.....?
When we played Doncaster away later that season a female Donny fan had a right go at me because of that. I politely told her that it wasn't mine or Charlton s fault the game was called off it was down to the Weather and the Ref. She was still abusing me as her husband took her away. Bloody Norverners
Remember the game well, conditions suited attacking the Covered End , which we would have done 2nd half, we would have won anyway, but your right, fuck em, bloody norveners.
This is the only time following Charlton i felt confident we would turn the deficit around after HT. I also recall the Doony players clearing the pitch at HT, to keep the game going. Never seen that before.
I know its only Nathan's word, but if the referee has called it off because of the forecast, rather than the conditions - Why wait so long then?
I don't know how you can call off a game because of what might happen.
Surely you start the match & then abandon it if needs be.
Golfie, if you start the game in these conditions and then have to call it off then you do that because the ball is not moving or it's become a risk to the players, also just suppose one of the sides had taken a two nil lead and the game got called off after 45 mins, the angst on here would be far worse.
That's a reasonable risk to take for both sides.
Doncaster Rovers at The Valley a few years back.....?
When we played Doncaster away later that season a female Donny fan had a right go at me because of that. I politely told her that it wasn't mine or Charlton s fault the game was called off it was down to the Weather and the Ref. She was still abusing me as her husband took her away. Bloody Norverners
Remember the game well, conditions suited attacking the Covered End , which we would have done 2nd half, we would have won anyway, but your right, fuck em, bloody norveners.
This is the only time following Charlton i felt confident we would turn the deficit around after HT. I also recall the Doony players clearing the pitch at HT, to keep the game going. Never seen that before.
And Jacko casually emptying his drinks bottle onto the pitch while they did that 😂
I know its only Nathan's word, but if the referee has called it off because of the forecast, rather than the conditions - Why wait so long then?
I don't know how you can call off a game because of what might happen.
Surely you start the match & then abandon it if needs be.
Golfie, if you start the game in these conditions and then have to call it off then you do that because the ball is not moving or it's become a risk to the players, also just suppose one of the sides had taken a two nil lead and the game got called off after 45 mins, the angst on here would be far worse.
That's a reasonable risk to take for both sides.
Doncaster Rovers at The Valley a few years back.....?
When we played Doncaster away later that season a female Donny fan had a right go at me because of that. I politely told her that it wasn't mine or Charlton s fault the game was called off it was down to the Weather and the Ref. She was still abusing me as her husband took her away. Bloody Norverners
Remember the game well, conditions suited attacking the Covered End , which we would have done 2nd half, we would have won anyway, but your right, fuck em, bloody norveners.
This is the only time following Charlton i felt confident we would turn the deficit around after HT. I also recall the Doony players clearing the pitch at HT, to keep the game going. Never seen that before.
And Jacko casually emptying his drinks bottle onto the pitch while they did that 😂
I can't remember exactly which year but we lost a derby at Selhurst against the stripeys when the ball stuck in the mud in the penalty box and a Palace forward had a tap-in as a result.
I don't remember leaving, thinking "all part of the game, I've played in worse" etc.
Be careful what you wish for, some of you...
There was the FA Cup match in the late 80s at The Hawthorns where it pissed down all day (and I'm sure the urinals in the away end didn't have a roof) with big puddles in the pitch but the match went ahead.
Lower league West Brom turned over top flight Charlton (for the benefit of the MoTD cameras, probably why the game didn't get called off) with a goalmouth puddle helping the Baggies.
1989/90 season. Tony Ford got their goal. Without doubt the worst pitch condition I've ever seen. Far worse than the Chelsea sand-pitch, the Coventry 99% mud pitch or the West Ham TV FA Cup match at Selhurst...which were all plenty bad.
But...as gutting as it was to lose (and it was yet another kick in the guts during a mega-tough season) it was a memorable game with plenty of action.
Thanks for identifying my Palace game, above. I was there for this one too. And again, I don't remember being as sanguine as you about the experience. All of us in the car were ****ing fuming (and soaking wet). I dunno, I find it hard to accept this as 'part of the game' and some kind of resilience test for players and fans alike - and Jonathan Grade's tweet reminds us it isn't just the game itself which is shit and potentially dangerous in weather like that.
I certainly get the frustration about the late call-off, but you know, this sort of incident is going to be more common. I was listening this morning to news of floods near Manchester which -unlike the previous two incidents - the weather forecaster failed to call. And now it's turned to ice apparently.
Luckily I only live a town over so Pulled up to the car park and the bloke next to us just got a text telling him the game was off so back home we went, bit shit as the kids were hyped up, but it is what it is. Really could have done with being called off an hour earlier.
If the threshold for calling games off was made lower to do it earlier, there would be quite a few more called off each season, and that would make three or four game weeks even more common, which isn't really going to work unless something else is done to smooth it out (like extending the season a couple weeks, or thinning out the amount of games by reducing the number of teams within it) which brings its own problems of course.
So, what was so wrong with the pitch from that video, the ball was bouncing, sure it got held up a bit in the centre circle but come on it didn't look too bad from that little bit of film...did it🤷♂️
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That pitch is a shocker. No wonder it got called off. Looks more like a swimming pool.
I think we should use this game as the benchmark…
Whatever time that chump got to the ground it was blindingly obvious the match wouldn’t be completed with the worsening deluge on the saturated pitch
That guff about ‘giving the groundstaff every chance to get the pitch playable’ is wretched insulting bullshit
Gill dropped a bollock and is spinning total horse shit in the vain hope of covering his worthless arse Either that or he couldn’t be arsed to get there at a decent time
As bad as that prancing ninny Andy D’Urso who fucked us over on a chilly Boxing Day a few years back (teenagers ask your Dad)
The football league will let it slide of course because the only “stakeholders” 🤮 who are inconvenienced are we supporters about whom football authorities do not give one single fuck
We should en masse send expense claims to EFL like we would to train companies when they balls up their services.
Ever the gentleman eh Rambo.
I certainly get the frustration about the late call-off, but you know, this sort of incident is going to be more common. I was listening this morning to news of floods near Manchester which -unlike the previous two incidents - the weather forecaster failed to call. And now it's turned to ice apparently.
https://www.sussexexpress.co.uk/sport/football/crawley-town-v-charlton-athletic-postponed-watch-the-referees-inspections-before-decision-that-led-to-boos-from-the-crowd-4927276