What’s not to like ? It’s a great fit even if he’s just an impact sub but that won’t stop Twitter having a meltdown and the usual miserable fuckers complaining on here .
so we were not willing to push the boat out to keep him in the summer but willing to spend 300k fee now to get him back plus probably increase his wages. Bizarre. Why not have just offered him more in the summer to stay and at least we would have had him the last six months or so and who knows we may have been in for a shot at promotion with some vital goals scored. Shot our selves in the foot. And Birmingham must be laughing their heads off.
Plus I'm not convinced because if he can only play 30/45 minutes as his previous time with us, and his time at Brum, would suggest then we still havn't got a Stockley replacement. However, welcome back Chuks and better option than Defoe.
I’m not really focused on the financials as none of us will know the details.
But from a team / squad perspective, if it’s a permanent deal then is Chuks a player that will improve our squad with an eye to delivering a promotion season next year?
Do people think the answer to that is yes?
His record in the various Divisions is:
Belgium - 4 in 41 Championship - 3 in 38 League 1 - 49 in 158 League 2 - 17 in 39
As a full time super sub, Chuks might help us to survive this season and be a promotion contender next season but we have to still have to sign at least one more striker to share the burden. One more goal scorer to supplement Chuks, Stockley and hopefully a blooming Burstow and we really would be a contender
Out of interest would we have had to pay Chuks a signing fee if he'd agreed to an extention last summer and would it have been in the region of fee we're now paying Birmingham?
The amount of people saying "But we released him on a free in the summer!"
No we didnt. We offered him a deal, a club in a higher division offered him a bigger deal which he accepted. If we had our way he would never have left.
I've heard we've knocked £50 a week off his wage for his insolence
I’m not really focused on the financials as none of us will know the details.
But from a team / squad perspective, if it’s a permanent deal then is Chuks a player that will improve our squad with an eye to delivering a promotion season next year?
Do people think the answer to that is yes?
His record in the various Divisions is:
Belgium - 4 in 41 Championship - 3 in 38 League 1 - 49 in 158 League 2 - 17 in 39
As a full time super sub, Chuks might help us to survive this season and be a promotion contender next season but we have to still have to sign at least one more striker to share the burden.
I agree still think we need a pacey striker who plays off the shoulder like a Bradley Wright-Philips type. Think that will be more likely in the summer.
Out of interest would we have had to pay Chuks a signing fee if he'd agreed to an extention last summer and would it have been in the region of fee we're now paying Birmingham?
Signing on fee... Probably
Whether its in the region of 300k - Who knows, I reckon the signing on fee would be more around £100k at the very most; £300k does seem a lot for a League One player. But then finances in the whole Footballing world are just a little bit silly arent they
so we were not willing to push the boat out to keep him in the summer but willing to spend 300k fee now to get him back plus probably increase his wages. Bizarre. Why not have just offered him more in the summer to stay and at least we would have had him the last six months or so and who knows we may have been in for a shot at promotion with some vital goals scored. Shot our selves in the foot. And Birmingham must be laughing their heads off. .
Whole lot of assumptions being made in there Large
Out of interest would we have had to pay Chuks a signing fee if he'd agreed to an extention last summer and would it have been in the region of fee we're now paying Birmingham?
in theory yes, but it may have got subsumed into a new wage deal - either way. Chucks held the upper hand coz he'd let his contract run down and wasn't injured so, as bowyer would say, 'it was what it was'
The amount of people saying "But we released him on a free in the summer!"
No we didnt. We offered him a deal, a club in a higher division offered him a bigger deal which he accepted. If we had our way he would never have left.
but we are paying 300k to buy him back, why not just offer him more in the first place?
The amount of people saying "But we released him on a free in the summer!"
No we didnt. We offered him a deal, a club in a higher division offered him a bigger deal which he accepted. If we had our way he would never have left.
but we are paying 300k to buy him back, why not just offer him more in the first place?
There 300K over a 2 year contract is an extra 3K per week. That would mean putting him on c.7-8K per week that would have gone towards our FFP calculation.
At the time transfer fees do not count but wages do.
The amount of people saying "But we released him on a free in the summer!"
No we didnt. We offered him a deal, a club in a higher division offered him a bigger deal which he accepted. If we had our way he would never have left.
but we are paying 300k to buy him back, why not just offer him more in the first place?
There 300K over a 2 year contract is an extra 3K per week. That would mean putting him on c.7-8K per week that would have gone towards our FFP calculation.
At the time transfer fees do not count but wages do.
Also, Birmingham may have been paying him 10K and in a higher division. Maybe we did offer him 8K but he wanted 10K and Championship football.
The amount of people saying "But we released him on a free in the summer!"
No we didnt. We offered him a deal, a club in a higher division offered him a bigger deal which he accepted. If we had our way he would never have left.
but we are paying 300k to buy him back, why not just offer him more in the first place?
Maybe we did offer him more but he preferred Bowyer to Adkins?
the fact that he left for free doesn't come into it as he was out of contract and therefore fees were not involved, the fact that he didn't want to re-sign for us does come into it. Poor business in the long term but might help us escape a relegation battle this season and therefore a reasonable piece of business, but I don't like it but not sure why
Everyone seems to be thinking that he will be used as an "impact" sub. Say he's not happy with that & has come here to start every game. He might get pissed off & be gone (again) come the summer.
I’m not really focused on the financials as none of us will know the details.
But from a team / squad perspective, if it’s a permanent deal then is Chuks a player that will improve our squad with an eye to delivering a promotion season next year?
Do people think the answer to that is yes?
Yeah but it all comes down to fitness
A fully fit Aneke would be this leagues top scorer, no doubt. But I would put money on him not playing more than 50% of total minutes next season.
I would say that is being a little disrespectful to the likes of Ross Stewart, Carl Stockton and Michael Smith who would easily give Chucks a run for his money. He will be up there that's for sure if he gets the service but "league top scorer, no doubt" is fanciful.
The amount of people saying "But we released him on a free in the summer!"
No we didnt. We offered him a deal, a club in a higher division offered him a bigger deal which he accepted. If we had our way he would never have left.
but we are paying 300k to buy him back, why not just offer him more in the first place?
We probably did. But Birmingham offered more than we did and a chance to play in the Championship.
There's a decent chance he's taking a cut to his wages coming back.
I have no idea why people are presuming we lowballed him previously, he would have been and probably will be one of the higher earners if he does come back. It just wasn't as much as Birmingham could offer.
Everyone seems to be thinking that he will be used as an "impact" sub. Say he's not happy with that & has come here to start every game. He might get pissed off & be gone (again) come the summer.
If he thinks his body can take starting every game then he should start every game. I don't get the point you are making.
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Wasn't one of our excuses for a slow window that we had to wait for Chucks and JFC etc to sign their offers.
> We replace Aneke with Aneke <
"Oh not bloody Aneke"
Plus I'm not convinced because if he can only play 30/45 minutes as his previous time with us, and his time at Brum, would suggest then we still havn't got a Stockley replacement. However, welcome back Chuks and better option than Defoe.
Belgium - 4 in 41
Championship - 3 in 38
League 1 - 49 in 158
League 2 - 17 in 39
As a full time super sub, Chuks might help us to survive this season and be a promotion contender next season but we have to still have to sign at least one more striker to share the burden. One more goal scorer to supplement Chuks, Stockley and hopefully a blooming Burstow and we really would be a contender
I agree still think we need a pacey striker who plays off the shoulder like a Bradley Wright-Philips type. Think that will be more likely in the summer.
Whether its in the region of 300k - Who knows, I reckon the signing on fee would be more around £100k at the very most; £300k does seem a lot for a League One player. But then finances in the whole Footballing world are just a little bit silly arent they
At the time transfer fees do not count but wages do.
Poor business in the long term but might help us escape a relegation battle this season and therefore a reasonable piece of business, but I don't like it but not sure why
Imagine feeding in all the data to the fabled black box and what comes out is a player you released on a free.
There's a decent chance he's taking a cut to his wages coming back.
I have no idea why people are presuming we lowballed him previously, he would have been and probably will be one of the higher earners if he does come back. It just wasn't as much as Birmingham could offer.