In light of AFKAs request not to start controversial non Charlton related threads maybe this one needs to go.
Or people could just show some respect and shut up
"Agree with me or shut up".
You can’t resist trying to wind people up over a 95 year old woman being unwell. Do you not realise how pathetic that makes you look?
Yes. You keep saying how pathetic I am. It's nothing to do with her being unwell and I don't wish her anything but good health but the kneejerk subservience is pathetic.
Subservience? What are you talking about? It’s literally a thread of people showing respect, apart from you. If that irritates you so much, perhaps close the thread and read something else.
OK. I'll delete my previous comments and leave you to it.
A thread is opened about the 95 year old Queen needing to rest for 2 more weeks. Out come the anti Monarchy and Irish republican mobs who have to tell us all that the monarchy is shit and that the Queen has done naff all in all those years - not opinions based on the original thread either. When the sad day does arrive, I’ll give the RIP thread 2 pages before it’s closed.
A thread is opened about the 95 year old Queen needing to rest for 2 more weeks. Out come the anti Monarchy and Irish republican mobs who have to tell us all that the monarchy is shit and that the Queen has done naff all in all those years - not opinions based on the original thread either. When the sad day does arrive, I’ll give the RIP thread 2 pages before it’s closed.
Not sure where you’ve read those comments to be honest. Certainly not my impression of this thread. Being anti monarchy isn’t based in animosity towards the Queen. I’m anti monarchy and I wish the 95 year old nothing but good wishes.
A thread is opened about the 95 year old Queen needing to rest for 2 more weeks. Out come the anti Monarchy and Irish republican mobs who have to tell us all that the monarchy is shit and that the Queen has done naff all in all those years - not opinions based on the original thread either. When the sad day does arrive, I’ll give the RIP thread 2 pages before it’s closed.
I asked a question. Not really answered yet. That’s all. I don’t think anyone has used the words you mention.
There has been abuse to anyone who doesn’t follow the groupthink line though.
For me it’s quite easy to divorce the people involved and the institution. I completely and fundamentally reject the concept of the monarchy. To me its anachronistic and actually quite bizarre. Why we feel the need to elevate a particular family to exalted heights and provide privileges and wealth beyond any normal person can comprehend is totally baffling to me. I’ve never got it. That said, do I blame the royals for their accident of birth ? Absolutely not. They are no more guilty of their position of privilege compared to my birth and the privileges I have by the accident of my birth being born in Europe and not in a third world country. Would I dispense with the monarchy ? Yes I would. Do I wish any of the royals any ill ? Absolutely not. Being an advocate of republicanism doesn’t mean I hate the royal family despite what @alan dugdale wants to think.
A thread is opened about the 95 year old Queen needing to rest for 2 more weeks. Out come the anti Monarchy and Irish republican mobs who have to tell us all that the monarchy is shit and that the Queen has done naff all in all those years - not opinions based on the original thread either. When the sad day does arrive, I’ll give the RIP thread 2 pages before it’s closed.
I asked a question. Not really answered yet. That’s all. I don’t think anyone has used the words you mention.
There has been abuse to anyone who doesn’t follow the groupthink line though.
The thread was about someone’s health. Even you later said that your question is possibly a new low point.
A thread is opened about the 95 year old Queen needing to rest for 2 more weeks. Out come the anti Monarchy and Irish republican mobs who have to tell us all that the monarchy is shit and that the Queen has done naff all in all those years - not opinions based on the original thread either. When the sad day does arrive, I’ll give the RIP thread 2 pages before it’s closed.
I asked a question. Not really answered yet. That’s all. I don’t think anyone has used the words you mention.
There has been abuse to anyone who doesn’t follow the groupthink line though.
The thread was about someone’s health. Even you later said that your question is possibly a new low point.
Not really. I was being polite and not wanting to inflame the debate whilst still hoping for a substantive answer.
A thread is opened about the 95 year old Queen needing to rest for 2 more weeks. Out come the anti Monarchy and Irish republican mobs who have to tell us all that the monarchy is shit and that the Queen has done naff all in all those years - not opinions based on the original thread either. When the sad day does arrive, I’ll give the RIP thread 2 pages before it’s closed.
I asked a question. Not really answered yet. That’s all. I don’t think anyone has used the words you mention.
There has been abuse to anyone who doesn’t follow the groupthink line though.
The thread was about someone’s health. Even you later said that your question is possibly a new low point.
Not really. I was being polite and not wanting to inflame the debate whilst still hoping for a substantive answer.
You know exactly what you're doing by repeatedly asking that question on this thread though. You've got Google, go and ask that.
A thread is opened about the 95 year old Queen needing to rest for 2 more weeks. Out come the anti Monarchy and Irish republican mobs who have to tell us all that the monarchy is shit and that the Queen has done naff all in all those years - not opinions based on the original thread either. When the sad day does arrive, I’ll give the RIP thread 2 pages before it’s closed.
I asked a question. Not really answered yet. That’s all. I don’t think anyone has used the words you mention.
There has been abuse to anyone who doesn’t follow the groupthink line though.
The thread was about someone’s health. Even you later said that your question is possibly a new low point.
Not really. I was being polite and not wanting to inflame the debate whilst still hoping for a substantive answer.
You know exactly what you're doing by repeatedly asking that question on this thread though. You've got Google, go and ask that.
A thread is opened about the 95 year old Queen needing to rest for 2 more weeks. Out come the anti Monarchy and Irish republican mobs who have to tell us all that the monarchy is shit and that the Queen has done naff all in all those years - not opinions based on the original thread either. When the sad day does arrive, I’ll give the RIP thread 2 pages before it’s closed.
I asked a question. Not really answered yet. That’s all. I don’t think anyone has used the words you mention.
There has been abuse to anyone who doesn’t follow the groupthink line though.
The thread was about someone’s health. Even you later said that your question is possibly a new low point.
Not really. I was being polite and not wanting to inflame the debate whilst still hoping for a substantive answer.
You know exactly what you're doing by repeatedly asking that question on this thread though. You've got Google, go and ask that.
I’m interested in what people on here think.
I’ll have a crack then. Being monarch for such a long time where for obvious reasons she takes an interest in how the country is run and has a meeting with the PM of the day on a weekly basis she is in a position where she has an awful lot of knowledge and experience of the affairs of state. Although she isn’t in a position to directly influence the government of the day, I have little doubt that she is in a position to let the PM know where she stands. I think it takes a brave PM to ignore her views should she intimate them however subtly. Do I agree that she should be in this position ? No. I’m a republican but, it is what it is and until or when the monarchy is abolished, which unfortunately in my opinion isn’t any time soon then The Queen has had a stabilising and calming influence on the excesses of governments.
A thread is opened about the 95 year old Queen needing to rest for 2 more weeks. Out come the anti Monarchy and Irish republican mobs who have to tell us all that the monarchy is shit and that the Queen has done naff all in all those years - not opinions based on the original thread either. When the sad day does arrive, I’ll give the RIP thread 2 pages before it’s closed.
I asked a question. Not really answered yet. That’s all. I don’t think anyone has used the words you mention.
There has been abuse to anyone who doesn’t follow the groupthink line though.
The thread was about someone’s health. Even you later said that your question is possibly a new low point.
Not really. I was being polite and not wanting to inflame the debate whilst still hoping for a substantive answer.
You know exactly what you're doing by repeatedly asking that question on this thread though. You've got Google, go and ask that.
A thread is opened about the 95 year old Queen needing to rest for 2 more weeks. Out come the anti Monarchy and Irish republican mobs who have to tell us all that the monarchy is shit and that the Queen has done naff all in all those years - not opinions based on the original thread either. When the sad day does arrive, I’ll give the RIP thread 2 pages before it’s closed.
I asked a question. Not really answered yet. That’s all. I don’t think anyone has used the words you mention.
There has been abuse to anyone who doesn’t follow the groupthink line though.
The thread was about someone’s health. Even you later said that your question is possibly a new low point.
Not really. I was being polite and not wanting to inflame the debate whilst still hoping for a substantive answer.
Not really ? But you did write that, it’s in black and white.
A thread is opened about the 95 year old Queen needing to rest for 2 more weeks. Out come the anti Monarchy and Irish republican mobs who have to tell us all that the monarchy is shit and that the Queen has done naff all in all those years - not opinions based on the original thread either. When the sad day does arrive, I’ll give the RIP thread 2 pages before it’s closed.
I asked a question. Not really answered yet. That’s all. I don’t think anyone has used the words you mention.
There has been abuse to anyone who doesn’t follow the groupthink line though.
The thread was about someone’s health. Even you later said that your question is possibly a new low point.
Not really. I was being polite and not wanting to inflame the debate whilst still hoping for a substantive answer.
Not really ? But you did write that, it’s in black and white.
I think you will find someone else wrote that in response to iainment.
She’s done an exceptional job if you looked her as a politician as well, the approval rating for the monarchy are higher now, then when she took the throne.
I’m no royalist, agonist about it, but she’s done an amazing job in the role, and deserves the affection she gets, I do hope she is allowed to do the job at her pace now, and make the right call about who succeeds
She’s done an exceptional job if you looked her as a politician as well, the approval rating for the monarchy are higher now, then when she took the throne.
I’m no royalist, agonist about it, but she’s done an amazing job in the role, and deserves the affection she gets, I do hope she is allowed to do the job at her pace now, and make the right call about who succeeds
She’s done an exceptional job if you looked her as a politician as well, the approval rating for the monarchy are higher now, then when she took the throne.
I’m no royalist, agonist about it, but she’s done an amazing job in the role, and deserves the affection she gets, I do hope she is allowed to do the job at her pace now, and make the right call about who succeeds
She’s done an exceptional job if you looked her as a politician as well, the approval rating for the monarchy are higher now, then when she took the throne.
I’m no royalist, agonist about it, but she’s done an amazing job in the role, and deserves the affection she gets, I do hope she is allowed to do the job at her pace now, and make the right call about who succeeds
She doesn’t get a say in that.
She can influence it hugely
Really ? How ? When she dies if Charles wants it then regardless of her views he becomes king.
She’s done an exceptional job if you looked her as a politician as well, the approval rating for the monarchy are higher now, then when she took the throne.
I’m no royalist, agonist about it, but she’s done an amazing job in the role, and deserves the affection she gets, I do hope she is allowed to do the job at her pace now, and make the right call about who succeeds
She doesn’t get a say in that.
She can influence it hugely
Really ? How ? When she dies if Charles wants it then regardless of her views he becomes king.
More to the point, its not even a case of Charles wanting it. The succession is a given. Any deviation from the line of succession is a massive legal and constitutional issue rather than a simple choice.
I think the vast majority of people appreciate what the queen has done for the country and when the time comes it will be a sad period indeed. However she will be a very hard act to follow and I think some rethinking from the institution might be needed in order to survive long term.
I’m not particularly royalist but I can’t see how anyone can wish her anything but gratitude for what she has done day in day out for God knows how long. 95 and still working and just gets on with it. Aren’t we something like 70 years into her reign? She hasn’t stopped.
I also think that when she does sadly leave us that Charles will do a good job and William too. I recall a few years back catching an interview with William, Kate and Harry, maybe at the London marathon, and they were talking about raising awareness for mental health. They get it and I think William will be a great Head of State.
The worst side of the royal family is Prince Andrew and what happened to Diana. It, like every family/business/institution/football club has its issues, but overall I feel that the good they do, far outweighs the constant need for people to ask for it to be abolished. I’d much rather have the Queen in charge than the current prat that rules our Country
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When the sad day does arrive, I’ll give the RIP thread 2 pages before it’s closed.
I hope HM gets some well-deserved rest and is back to good health soon.
But unlike you, she has earned that respect.
I’m no royalist, agonist about it, but she’s done an amazing job in the role, and deserves the affection she gets, I do hope she is allowed to do the job at her pace now, and make the right call about who succeeds
The worst side of the royal family is Prince Andrew and what happened to Diana. It, like every family/business/institution/football club has its issues, but overall I feel that the good they do, far outweighs the constant need for people to ask for it to be abolished. I’d much rather have the Queen in charge than the current prat that rules our Country