Ged Roddy's expertise in Football appeared to be as the architecture of the Development fees paid to clubs when young scholars are hovered up by the big Boys.
Did Ged's plan still favour the Category A Academies big time over the vulnerability of Cat B teams like Cafc, despite Roddy saying on CAST Q+A that his template increased the amount Cat B academics received.
Steve Avory and his coaches and now Ged Roddy have to highlight the talent and potential and get the likes of Deji Elerewe signed up for longer on their 17th birthday, as they have done with Anderson.
Some kids lose their way and don't progress, but cafc have to be discerning and make those decisions. It's imperative we become a CAT A and I would expect Ged Roddy and Thomas Sandgaard to have this as a major goal as well as Championship status.
Why? I have no idea if it's likely, but it's not unreasonable. It's like any business, you invest money into the premises to achieve what you need. Apple, for example, doesn't own it's Regent Street, or Bluewater, or Covent Garden locations, but they invest heavily in them and they see a return on those investments. Retailers look to secure the right lease terms first. I don't have a complete understanding of the terms needed for CAT 1 status, but I'm just making the point that if Roddy understands the terms and they are comfortable with a plan for the necessary investment, not owning the freehold *may* not be the deterrent some of us think it is.
Ged Roddy's expertise in Football appeared to be as the architecture of the Development fees paid to clubs when young scholars are hovered up by the big Boys.
Did Ged's plan still favour the Category A Academies big time over the vulnerability of Cat B teams like Cafc, despite Roddy saying on CAST Q+A that his template increased the amount Cat B academics received.
Steve Avory and his coaches and now Ged Roddy have to highlight the talent and potential and get the likes of Deji Elerewe signed up for longer on their 17th birthday, as they have done with Anderson.
Some kids lose their way and don't progress, but cafc have to be discerning and make those decisions. It's imperative we become a CAT A and I would expect Ged Roddy and Thomas Sandgaard to have this as a major goal as well as Championship status.
With Ged on board this would be one of his objectives. they’ve done the necessary maths to prove the worth of Cat 1 to us over the years so now we just need to identify exactly what the eppp requires and we’ll see what we need to do to achieve this.
In the immortal words of Russell Slade….”a little bit of patience”
Ged Roddy's expertise in Football appeared to be as the architecture of the Development fees paid to clubs when young scholars are hovered up by the big Boys.
Did Ged's plan still favour the Category A Academies big time over the vulnerability of Cat B teams like Cafc, despite Roddy saying on CAST Q+A that his template increased the amount Cat B academics received.
Steve Avory and his coaches and now Ged Roddy have to highlight the talent and potential and get the likes of Deji Elerewe signed up for longer on their 17th birthday, as they have done with Anderson.
Some kids lose their way and don't progress, but cafc have to be discerning and make those decisions. It's imperative we become a CAT A and I would expect Ged Roddy and Thomas Sandgaard to have this as a major goal as well as Championship status.
With Ged on board this would be one of his objectives. they’ve done the necessary maths to prove the worth of Cat 1 to us over the years so now we just need to identify exactly what the eppp requires and we’ll see what we need to do to achieve this.
In the immortal words of Russell Slade….”a little bit of patience”
Meanwhile a few more prospects walk out the door ................... frustrating
Ged Roddy's expertise in Football appeared to be as the architecture of the Development fees paid to clubs when young scholars are hovered up by the big Boys.
Did Ged's plan still favour the Category A Academies big time over the vulnerability of Cat B teams like Cafc, despite Roddy saying on CAST Q+A that his template increased the amount Cat B academics received.
Steve Avory and his coaches and now Ged Roddy have to highlight the talent and potential and get the likes of Deji Elerewe signed up for longer on their 17th birthday, as they have done with Anderson.
Some kids lose their way and don't progress, but cafc have to be discerning and make those decisions. It's imperative we become a CAT A and I would expect Ged Roddy and Thomas Sandgaard to have this as a major goal as well as Championship status.
With Ged on board this would be one of his objectives. they’ve done the necessary maths to prove the worth of Cat 1 to us over the years so now we just need to identify exactly what the eppp requires and we’ll see what we need to do to achieve this.
In the immortal words of Russell Slade….”a little bit of patience”
So more a case of the wheels are being inflated, than are actually in motion
Can’t imagine Thomas Sandgaard will improve Sparrows Lane to a Category 1 status without owning the training ground.
The academy doesn't have to be at Sparrows Lane.
I know, but I don’t believe Thomas would walk away from Sparrows Lane at this point.
He’s already spent a handsome amount of money with ad hoc improvements at SL. We’re a year into his ownership and I’d have expected to hear rumblings if he’d considered relocating
Ged Roddy's expertise in Football appeared to be as the architecture of the Development fees paid to clubs when young scholars are hovered up by the big Boys.
Did Ged's plan still favour the Category A Academies big time over the vulnerability of Cat B teams like Cafc, despite Roddy saying on CAST Q+A that his template increased the amount Cat B academics received.
Steve Avory and his coaches and now Ged Roddy have to highlight the talent and potential and get the likes of Deji Elerewe signed up for longer on their 17th birthday, as they have done with Anderson.
Some kids lose their way and don't progress, but cafc have to be discerning and make those decisions. It's imperative we become a CAT A and I would expect Ged Roddy and Thomas Sandgaard to have this as a major goal as well as Championship status.
With Ged on board this would be one of his objectives. they’ve done the necessary maths to prove the worth of Cat 1 to us over the years so now we just need to identify exactly what the eppp requires and we’ll see what we need to do to achieve this.
In the immortal words of Russell Slade….”a little bit of patience”
Geddy wrote the EPPP. If we are trying to identify what it requires after employing him then wtf. Surely that is a one afternoon presentation from him to TS to explain what he wrote?
Why? I have no idea if it's likely, but it's not unreasonable. It's like any business, you invest money into the premises to achieve what you need. Apple, for example, doesn't own it's Regent Street, or Bluewater, or Covent Garden locations, but they invest heavily in them and they see a return on those investments. Retailers look to secure the right lease terms first. I don't have a complete understanding of the terms needed for CAT 1 status, but I'm just making the point that if Roddy understands the terms and they are comfortable with a plan for the necessary investment, not owning the freehold *may* not be the deterrent some of us think it is.
Apple are about the most profitable business on the planet aren't they? In UK football parlance that is Chelsea or Man City with their vast and expensive academies and near limitless resources.
We are a name who has had superb past success but no longer own our properties, are making huge annual losses and with limited capital are needing to choose whether to invest into something we have a finite lease on... So more like Woolworths. (We even both employed Southall ffs)
Can’t imagine Thomas Sandgaard will improve Sparrows Lane to a Category 1 status without owning the training ground.
The academy doesn't have to be at Sparrows Lane.
I know, but I don’t believe Thomas would walk away from Sparrows Lane at this point.
He’s already spent a handsome amount of money with ad hoc improvements at SL. We’re a year into his ownership and I’d have expected to hear rumblings if he’d considered relocating
I think what he's implying is that the academy and training ground don't have to be in the same location. So the senior players would still train at DL, whilst the academy is run on a campus probably further out, specifically tailored to the academy's needs/requirements
Can’t imagine Thomas Sandgaard will improve Sparrows Lane to a Category 1 status without owning the training ground.
The academy doesn't have to be at Sparrows Lane.
I know, but I don’t believe Thomas would walk away from Sparrows Lane at this point.
He’s already spent a handsome amount of money with ad hoc improvements at SL. We’re a year into his ownership and I’d have expected to hear rumblings if he’d considered relocating
I think what he's implying is that the academy and training ground don't have to be in the same location. So the senior players would still train at DL, whilst the academy is run on a campus probably further out, specifically tailored to the academy's needs/requirements
Either way, that's not something that can happen quickly. There aren't fully equipped facilities just lying around empty, waiting to be used
And most clubs want everyone together on one site, men, women and academy.
Can’t imagine Thomas Sandgaard will improve Sparrows Lane to a Category 1 status without owning the training ground.
The academy doesn't have to be at Sparrows Lane.
I know, but I don’t believe Thomas would walk away from Sparrows Lane at this point.
He’s already spent a handsome amount of money with ad hoc improvements at SL. We’re a year into his ownership and I’d have expected to hear rumblings if he’d considered relocating
I would rather monies be spent on players capable of getting us out of League 1first.
The best way to hold on to our best youngsters is to be much higher up the football pyramid than 4th bottom League One. As things stand there are two dozen or more clubs that are probably more attractive.
Even better if we were a cat 1 academy.
What are Roddy and Sandgaard doing about that?
Might make a difference, but what can they do if we don't own the training ground? Am I right in thinking the criteria includes certain requirements on that front?
Yes, but it's not just about facilities
I should have directly posed the question in the Roddy/Gallen Q&A, but I can't see how a Cat 1 academy is affordable for a club outside at least the Championship, with the extra coaching required.
Palace have only recently reached Cat 1 themselves, and they have a similar track record to us when it comes to producing players, indeed possibly better
Do they? I don't think so. How many current Premier League players can you name who came through their academy? Is that figure really more than ours?
Ged Roddy's expertise in Football appeared to be as the architecture of the Development fees paid to clubs when young scholars are hovered up by the big Boys.
Did Ged's plan still favour the Category A Academies big time over the vulnerability of Cat B teams like Cafc, despite Roddy saying on CAST Q+A that his template increased the amount Cat B academics received.
Steve Avory and his coaches and now Ged Roddy have to highlight the talent and potential and get the likes of Deji Elerewe signed up for longer on their 17th birthday, as they have done with Anderson.
Some kids lose their way and don't progress, but cafc have to be discerning and make those decisions. It's imperative we become a CAT A and I would expect Ged Roddy and Thomas Sandgaard to have this as a major goal as well as Championship status.
The best way to hold on to our best youngsters is to be much higher up the football pyramid than 4th bottom League One. As things stand there are two dozen or more clubs that are probably more attractive.
Even better if we were a cat 1 academy.
What are Roddy and Sandgaard doing about that?
Might make a difference, but what can they do if we don't own the training ground? Am I right in thinking the criteria includes certain requirements on that front?
Yes, but it's not just about facilities
I should have directly posed the question in the Roddy/Gallen Q&A, but I can't see how a Cat 1 academy is affordable for a club outside at least the Championship, with the extra coaching required.
Palace have only recently reached Cat 1 themselves, and they have a similar track record to us when it comes to producing players, indeed possibly better
Do they? I don't think so. How many current Premier League players can you name who came through their academy? Is that figure really more than ours?
The best way to hold on to our best youngsters is to be much higher up the football pyramid than 4th bottom League One. As things stand there are two dozen or more clubs that are probably more attractive.
Even better if we were a cat 1 academy.
What are Roddy and Sandgaard doing about that?
Might make a difference, but what can they do if we don't own the training ground? Am I right in thinking the criteria includes certain requirements on that front?
Yes, but it's not just about facilities
I should have directly posed the question in the Roddy/Gallen Q&A, but I can't see how a Cat 1 academy is affordable for a club outside at least the Championship, with the extra coaching required.
Palace have only recently reached Cat 1 themselves, and they have a similar track record to us when it comes to producing players, indeed possibly better
Do they? I don't think so. How many current Premier League players can you name who came through their academy? Is that figure really more than ours?
Zaha Wan-Bissaka Mitchell Clyne
Struggling to think of many others
Freddie Woodman also
Plus other recently ex PL players like Victor Moses, Wayne Routledge, Lewis Grabban and a certain Ben Watson...
Can’t imagine Thomas Sandgaard will improve Sparrows Lane to a Category 1 status without owning the training ground.
The academy doesn't have to be at Sparrows Lane.
I know, but I don’t believe Thomas would walk away from Sparrows Lane at this point.
He’s already spent a handsome amount of money with ad hoc improvements at SL. We’re a year into his ownership and I’d have expected to hear rumblings if he’d considered relocating
I think what he's implying is that the academy and training ground don't have to be in the same location. So the senior players would still train at DL, whilst the academy is run on a campus probably further out, specifically tailored to the academy's needs/requirements
The best way to hold on to our best youngsters is to be much higher up the football pyramid than 4th bottom League One. As things stand there are two dozen or more clubs that are probably more attractive.
Even better if we were a cat 1 academy.
What are Roddy and Sandgaard doing about that?
Might make a difference, but what can they do if we don't own the training ground? Am I right in thinking the criteria includes certain requirements on that front?
Yes, but it's not just about facilities
I should have directly posed the question in the Roddy/Gallen Q&A, but I can't see how a Cat 1 academy is affordable for a club outside at least the Championship, with the extra coaching required.
Palace have only recently reached Cat 1 themselves, and they have a similar track record to us when it comes to producing players, indeed possibly better
Do they? I don't think so. How many current Premier League players can you name who came through their academy? Is that figure really more than ours?
Zaha Wan-Bissaka Mitchell Clyne
Struggling to think of many others
Freddie Woodman also
Plus other recently ex PL players like Victor Moses, Wayne Routledge, Lewis Grabban and a certain Ben Watson...
But you're going back over more than a decade there, probably before we lost Shelvey. We've lost loads since then.
Not entirely clued up on it but what are the benefits of being a category 1 academy compared to what we are now ? Does it mean we get higher fees for players out of contract ?
Not entirely clued up on it but what are the benefits of being a category 1 academy compared to what we are now ? Does it mean we get higher fees for players out of contract ?
It makes us a more attractive proposition to many young players (& their families and agents) but yes we should also be able to claim higher sale fees and higher development fees.
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Geddy wrote the EPPP. If we are trying to identify what it requires after employing him then wtf. Surely that is a one afternoon presentation from him to TS to explain what he wrote?
Apple are about the most profitable business on the planet aren't they? In UK football parlance that is Chelsea or Man City with their vast and expensive academies and near limitless resources.
We are a name who has had superb past success but no longer own our properties, are making huge annual losses and with limited capital are needing to choose whether to invest into something we have a finite lease on... So more like Woolworths. (We even both employed Southall ffs)
Grass is green
Water is wet
Charlton lose Deji
On that you can bet
Grass is green
Water is wet
Supporting Charlton
Is why I do Ket.
And most clubs want everyone together on one site, men, women and academy.
Zaha
Wan-Bissaka
Mitchell
Clyne
Struggling to think of many others
Plus other recently ex PL players like Victor Moses, Wayne Routledge, Lewis Grabban and a certain Ben Watson...
Charlton losing
Is the winning bet
He's down B&Q at the moment choosing the splashbacks for the apprentice's wash basins as we speak.
Does it mean we get higher fees for players out of contract ?
As a Cat.1 club we'd be able to sign players from wherever we want in the country