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Sean Clare - signed for Wigan on a 3 year deal (p30)

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  • His current position feels his strongest to me.
  • edited November 2021
    His current position feels his strongest to me.
    I’m not so sure it is. I think there’s a danger of falling into confirmation bias trap because since he has moved into the position the whole team have been playing exceptionally better.

    I do really like him in that position because he has a lot of attributes that suit for him to be there, though I will note I have noticed he has been the wrong side of his attacker a few times but managed to recover thanks to a well timed gangly leg.

    If Gilbey needs a rest or is injured, I would certainly like to see him given a chance in Jackson’s midfield, because as with Dobson, I think we will see more from him.
  • Addick_8 said:
    Little personal story here:
    I played against Sean 1/2 times when he played for a team in my area called Shenfield High. He was the best player on the pitch by a country mile, there was no one even close. If I remember correctly I am 99% certain he rolled one through my legs once and put it bottom corner and reeled off celebrating and I was hooked off at HT. 

    What's crazy about him playing CB in league 1 and doing well is when he was at Shenfield he scored so many goals it was frightening. I think once he hit 4 in a game and was one of the best attackers in the area and then went and got the number 9 shirt at hearts.
    I remember a few of the younger lads in a team I was at, were talking a little while ago about how he didn't like it in Scotland and ended up and Oxford.. little while later Charlton signed him!
    Weird to see him play CB but he Is clearly holding his own and it's good to see a local lad at Charlton

     
    Often the way, because they are so far ahead in footballing ability when they play early on they are forwards because they can affect the game more. 

    I played at county level for a number of years and a lot of the best players were strikers and have ended up playing far deeper as professionals.

    e.g I played up front and out wide for my local team and school but played full back and centre back for county.
  • Addick_8 said:
    Little personal story here:
    I played against Sean 1/2 times when he played for a team in my area called Shenfield High. He was the best player on the pitch by a country mile, there was no one even close. If I remember correctly I am 99% certain he rolled one through my legs once and put it bottom corner and reeled off celebrating and I was hooked off at HT. 

    What's crazy about him playing CB in league 1 and doing well is when he was at Shenfield he scored so many goals it was frightening. I think once he hit 4 in a game and was one of the best attackers in the area and then went and got the number 9 shirt at hearts.
    I remember a few of the younger lads in a team I was at, were talking a little while ago about how he didn't like it in Scotland and ended up and Oxford.. little while later Charlton signed him!
    Weird to see him play CB but he Is clearly holding his own and it's good to see a local lad at Charlton

     
    Often the way, because they are so far ahead in footballing ability when they play early on they are forwards because they can affect the game more. 

    I played at county level for a number of years and a lot of the best players were strikers and have ended up playing far deeper as professionals.

    e.g I played up front and out wide for my local team and school but played full back and centre back for county.
    I’ve noticed on FM our former academy striker Tosan Popo has become a right back. Plays for Concord in the 6th tier
  • Looks really good at RCB as is calm and good on the ball while being athletic. 

    Such a shame the ref couldn't be fitter to have seen Stockton's hack at him after such a good interception. 

    You don't need 3 outright CBs in L1 as you'll only come up against one good striker against most teams. Unluckily for us, against Morecambe, we were without our 3 solid CBs. 
  • Leuth said:
    mendonca said:
    He might not be a regular when Innis/Lavelle/Pearce are back but he's shown skill and adaptability. 
    Would Lavelle replace him? Probably. But Inniss and Pearce are definitely fighting over one spot in this formation. Neither could do the RCB job, which is currently contested by no fewer than four other players. 

    The real question is who is Famewo's backup. Souaré doesn't seem fit. It's probably Gunter and Matthews again
    Surely Pearce is logically cover for Famewo, both being left footed, left sided CBs by trade?
    The fact that Pearce has been playing right sided of Famewo is more to do with Lavelle being injured.

    In our 3 x CB defensive line, Pearce has been fine at central CB, especially as he has right footed cover on the right side, and left footed cover on the left. But Pearce was only playing because Lavelle, brought in himself to cover Inniss, was injured.

    IMO Clare has slotted in seemlessly at RCB, adding pace and tenacity at the back yet still works the right flank athletically, showing awareness as an outlet wide. It's almost like having a RB as well as a CB, enabling DJ to play further up the pitch. We've also seen he's capable of a decent long throw.

    He may still have to work on his positional awareness, but despite his lack of experience in that role, it's his shirt to lose.


  • Could be the new Pratley!
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  • Thought he was excellent tonight. So composed and almost elegant when running with the ball.No slouch either. 
  • He is more effective and his passing more accurate in new role.
  • edited December 2021
    Addick_8 said:
    Little personal story here:
    I played against Sean 1/2 times when he played for a team in my area called Shenfield High. He was the best player on the pitch by a country mile, there was no one even close. If I remember correctly I am 99% certain he rolled one through my legs once and put it bottom corner and reeled off celebrating and I was hooked off at HT. 

    What's crazy about him playing CB in league 1 and doing well is when he was at Shenfield he scored so many goals it was frightening. I think once he hit 4 in a game and was one of the best attackers in the area and then went and got the number 9 shirt at hearts.
    I remember a few of the younger lads in a team I was at, were talking a little while ago about how he didn't like it in Scotland and ended up and Oxford.. little while later Charlton signed him!
    Weird to see him play CB but he Is clearly holding his own and it's good to see a local lad at Charlton

     
    I think the offensive side of his game is his weakness in midfield. It wouldn't work as a 4-2-2 but as part of a three he slots in very nicely. I think he will get better playing that position and it is his route to a higher level. It is often the case that as you go up in levels strikers in youth football find new positions. 

    My son was at school with and played with Joe Newton who was left wing back for Havant and Waterlooville at the Valley. He was a deadly striker for the school team and never played the position he is playing now. So this applies even outside the top leagues.
  • Clare made some great counter attacks last night and in a 3 at the back with 2 CB it can work. If Gilbey is injured or loses form then Sean can also replace him as he has a great engine.  So pleased that the "experts" that wrote off Clare and Dobson after a few games are wrong. We are a League 1 side so obviously they will makes mistakes.


    They were dire and everyone commented as such.  Clare is playing very well in this current position and Dobson has been superb .  Nobody was wrong - they’ve just improved under a much superior manager 
  • Still amazed how he’s turned into a central defender, fair play, transformation has been stunning 
  • We haven’t missed Ryan as much recently, hats off to Sean 
  • It's a strange world isnt it this football lark. He has done a brilliant job in this role and I'm hoping he is enjoying it. As it stands I dont see how he isnt 1st choice even when players return to fitness but that's depends on if he wants to stay in that role himself I suppose. 
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  • Rothko said:
    Still amazed how he’s turned into a central defender, fair play, transformation has been stunning 
    The general consensus is that one your back three should be a full back.  Conte, Hoddle, Venables, Tuchel invariably did/ do that . Clare is definitely a full back 
  • AndyG said:
    It's a strange world isnt it this football lark. He has done a brilliant job in this role and I'm hoping he is enjoying it. As it stands I dont see how he isnt 1st choice even when players return to fitness but that's depends on if he wants to stay in that role himself I suppose. 
    He plays there or he’s on the bench or sold, as happened at Oxford !
  • edited December 2021
     i've played either up top, out wide or in the middle all my life - on the few occasions i've played at the back, i've found it so easy - some defenders stick to players like a magnet and i respect that but the only attribute that some defenders have that are 'specialist' pther than that are those centrev halfs who attack the ball in the air and see nothing but the ball - no fear - that is a true 'skill / ability' - sometimes the smallest bloke on the pitch wins every header because of desire and bravery - that is what the likes of pearce have - adams and terry had it - u can't teach it but i'm pretty sure that most midfielders and forwards can be converted into very good defenders (albeit not the aerial ball winning type)but not the other way round.   
  • wmcf123 said:
    Rothko said:
    Still amazed how he’s turned into a central defender, fair play, transformation has been stunning 
    The general consensus is that one your back three should be a full back.  Conte, Hoddle, Venables, Tuchel invariably did/ do that . Clare is definitely a full back 
    This is why I wouldn't want to see a back 3 with all of our CBs, would be very limited.
  • Scoham said:
    Some will say it’s cringey, but I love it!!
  • edited December 2021
    Decent! We've only had a new song for Elliot Lee as it can be sung at 200mph!

    Not sure Stockley, Washy, Dobson, Pearcy, Clare, Gilbey, Purrington have one!
  • Scoham said:
    Love it, probably needs a second verse to be sung at matches though :) 
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