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Managerial sackings, comings and goings

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    re Gary Monk .. big splash in the paper on Saturday .. he is suspected/has been accused of colluding with his agent to rig prices for players .. it's reported that Middlesbrough, another of his recent clubs are considering legal action against him for passing confidential information to an agent in order to inflate transfer fees .. similar accusations are made by the previous owner of Leeds and the current owner of Birmingham. Not good. I am sure there are many other managers/agents who have been and are still are 'at it' 
    Whilst i wouldn't trust too much that Cellino says, when other clubs are also saying similar then you have to wonder. A lot of the deals i've read about do seem a bit dodgy/overpriced and the agents insistence of being involved all the time is of course dodgy too.

    If all this is proven to be true, i doubt you'll see Monk getting another job again. Who would employ him?
    Cellino banned this specific agent from Leeds and had enough of him trying to put his weight around the business they were conducting.

    Monk is in big trouble, there is a big case against him with 3 clubs all saying pretty much the same thing. He won’t get another job. He also can’t do without Pep Clotet, who is the one who is the main coach which players actually like.
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48947463

    Big Sam turned it down, he was sounded out by Newcastle but doesn't want to return to an old club

    Steve Bruce, Big Sam, I wonder if Tony Pulis and David Moyes have received a call yet!
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48947463

    Big Sam turned it down, he was sounded out by Newcastle but doesn't want to return to an old club

    Steve Bruce, Big Sam, I wonder if Tony Pulis and David Moyes have received a call yet!
    Listening to Big Sam this morning on TalkSport, he later went on about how they don't have anyone up front who can score goals now they have sold Perez and lost Rondon too. Said that is always going to be a very difficult job if you don't have someone who can put the ball in the net and finding someone who can replace those two is almost impossible, especially as they aren't going to be spending a lot of money until the takeover happens. Got the impression that if the situation was slightly different, he would have considered it.
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    Sage said:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48947463

    Big Sam turned it down, he was sounded out by Newcastle but doesn't want to return to an old club

    Steve Bruce, Big Sam, I wonder if Tony Pulis and David Moyes have received a call yet!
    Listening to Big Sam this morning on TalkSport, he later went on about how they don't have anyone up front who can score goals now they have sold Perez and lost Rondon too. Said that is always going to be a very difficult job if you don't have someone who can put the ball in the net and finding someone who can replace those two is almost impossible, especially as they aren't going to be spending a lot of money until the takeover happens. Got the impression that if the situation was slightly different, he would have considered it.
    Rondon was only ever a swap loan with Dwight Gayle so they've now got the latter back
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    Sage said:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48947463

    Big Sam turned it down, he was sounded out by Newcastle but doesn't want to return to an old club

    Steve Bruce, Big Sam, I wonder if Tony Pulis and David Moyes have received a call yet!
    Listening to Big Sam this morning on TalkSport, he later went on about how they don't have anyone up front who can score goals now they have sold Perez and lost Rondon too. Said that is always going to be a very difficult job if you don't have someone who can put the ball in the net and finding someone who can replace those two is almost impossible, especially as they aren't going to be spending a lot of money until the takeover happens. Got the impression that if the situation was slightly different, he would have considered it.
    Rondon was only ever a swap loan with Dwight Gayle so they've now got the latter back
    Not convinced that Gayle can do it in the Premier League. They're going to struggle I think this season unless Ashley sells the club quickly. A little like us, albeit I have faith in Bows to get us competitive.
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    I know Mike Ashley is very much "ask not what you can do for Newcastle but what Newcastle can do for you/Sports Direct" but is he on a deliberate wind up now?

    They hate Allardyce don't they?
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    Sage said:
    Sage said:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48947463

    Big Sam turned it down, he was sounded out by Newcastle but doesn't want to return to an old club

    Steve Bruce, Big Sam, I wonder if Tony Pulis and David Moyes have received a call yet!
    Listening to Big Sam this morning on TalkSport, he later went on about how they don't have anyone up front who can score goals now they have sold Perez and lost Rondon too. Said that is always going to be a very difficult job if you don't have someone who can put the ball in the net and finding someone who can replace those two is almost impossible, especially as they aren't going to be spending a lot of money until the takeover happens. Got the impression that if the situation was slightly different, he would have considered it.
    Rondon was only ever a swap loan with Dwight Gayle so they've now got the latter back
    Not convinced that Gayle can do it in the Premier League. They're going to struggle I think this season unless Ashley sells the club quickly. A little like us, albeit I have faith in Bows to get us competitive.
    Nah he's in the Jordan Rhodes category
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48947463

    Big Sam turned it down, he was sounded out by Newcastle but doesn't want to return to an old club

    Steve Bruce, Big Sam, I wonder if Tony Pulis and David Moyes have received a call yet!
    Add Steve McLaren, Alan Pardew and Mark Hughes to the list as well. 
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    What happened to the previous Manager?
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    Oh I see he went to Hull 
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    Bruce has resigned from Sheffield Wednesday...
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    iaitch said:
    He loves walking out of jobs.
    Correct.
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    Bruce has resigned from Sheffield Wednesday...
    I wonder where he'll end up ; - )


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    Steve Bruce's track record.

    Sheffield United: Resigned
    Huddersfield: Sacked
    Wigan: Resigned
    Crystal Palace: Resigned
    Birmingham: Resigned
    Wigan: Resigned
    Sunderland: Sacked
    Hull: Resigned
    Aston Villa: Sacked
    Sheffield Wednesday: Resigned

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    Looking at that list, i hadn't realised that he will now have been manager of both Sheff Utd and Sheff Weds, Birmingham and Villa and now Sunderland and Newcastle.

    Mike Ashley is definitely taking the piss, how on earth can you go from Rafa Benitez to Bruce?!
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    Steve Bruce's track record.

    Sheffield United: Resigned
    Huddersfield: Sacked
    Wigan: Resigned
    Crystal Palace: Resigned
    Birmingham: Resigned
    Wigan: Resigned
    Sunderland: Sacked
    Hull: Resigned
    Aston Villa: Sacked
    Sheffield Wednesday: Resigned

    Is this a bad thing? Yes, it makes Bruce look disloyal, but it also shows that he is manager who has been in demand.
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    Bruce .. expect the Geordie fans to be up in arms about this .. that is if they are not shell shocked or just resigned to their fate .. I expect Newcastle to be relegated this coming season .. I hope that I am wrong
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    edited July 2019
    Sorry but Bruce is a knob, as much as I dislike the wendies, they gave him the job, allowed him to have a whole month off so he could go on holiday with his family, then 6 months later he resigns so he can take another job
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    Steve Bruce's track record.

    Sheffield United: Resigned
    Huddersfield: Sacked
    Wigan: Resigned
    Crystal Palace: Resigned
    Birmingham: Resigned
    Wigan: Resigned
    Sunderland: Sacked
    Hull: Resigned
    Aston Villa: Sacked
    Sheffield Wednesday: Resigned
    Update this in November to:
    Newcastle: Sacked


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    This summer has been a disaster for Newcastle. Benitez leaving, Perez leaving to join Leicester, Rondon not returning

    With Ashley making Roland look like an ambitious and interested owner, why would anyone decent want the managerial job there?
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    This summer has been a disaster for Newcastle. Benitez leaving, Perez leaving to join Leicester, Rondon not returning

    With Ashley making Roland look like an ambitious and interested owner, why would anyone decent want the managerial job there?
    Wouldnt go that far
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    This summer has been a disaster for Newcastle. Benitez leaving, Perez leaving to join Leicester, Rondon not returning

    With Ashley making Roland look like an ambitious and interested owner, why would anyone decent want the managerial job there?
    It was only a month ago they were about to be richer than Man City and Mbappe was on the way  :D
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    Steve Bruce's track record.

    Sheffield United: Resigned
    Huddersfield: Sacked
    Wigan: Resigned
    Crystal Palace: Resigned
    Birmingham: Resigned
    Wigan: Resigned
    Sunderland: Sacked
    Hull: Resigned
    Aston Villa: Sacked
    Sheffield Wednesday: Resigned
    If you include 'left for another club' as resigned, what other way out of a club is there than the above?

    Every manager's track record would look the same?
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    Steve Bruce's track record.

    Sheffield United: Resigned
    Huddersfield: Sacked
    Wigan: Resigned
    Crystal Palace: Resigned
    Birmingham: Resigned
    Wigan: Resigned
    Sunderland: Sacked
    Hull: Resigned
    Aston Villa: Sacked
    Sheffield Wednesday: Resigned
    If you include 'left for another club' as resigned, what other way out of a club is there than the above?

    Every manager's track record would look the same?
    The issue here I think is that he has had 10 jobs and resigned from 7.

    Shows no loyalty from him at all
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    Steve Bruce's track record.

    Sheffield United: Resigned
    Huddersfield: Sacked
    Wigan: Resigned
    Crystal Palace: Resigned
    Birmingham: Resigned
    Wigan: Resigned
    Sunderland: Sacked
    Hull: Resigned
    Aston Villa: Sacked
    Sheffield Wednesday: Resigned
    If you include 'left for another club' as resigned, what other way out of a club is there than the above?

    Every manager's track record would look the same?
    The issue here I think is that he has had 10 jobs and resigned from 7.

    Shows no loyalty from him at all
    Works both ways these days, clubs are hardly slow in getting rid.
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    Sorry but Bruce is a knob, as much as I dislike the wendies, they gave him the job, allowed him to have a whole month off so he could go on holiday with his family, then 6 months later he resigns so he can take another job
    On the other hand you could see it as:

    Chef Wendy gave him the job, allowed him to take a whole month so he could go on holiday with his family and watch the cricket in the Caribbean, which gave them enough time to get rid of Daisy from English football before he rocked up for work.
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    Sorry but Bruce is a knob, as much as I dislike the wendies, they gave him the job, allowed him to have a whole month off so he could go on holiday with his family, then 6 months later he resigns so he can take another job
    Bruce has already paid back Wednesday: he saved them from relegation.
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    Sorry but Bruce is a knob, as much as I dislike the wendies, they gave him the job, allowed him to have a whole month off so he could go on holiday with his family, then 6 months later he resigns so he can take another job
    Bruce has already paid back Wednesday: he saved them from relegation.
    And £4m compensation.
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    never realised our ex player Bryan Hughes was Wrexham manager.
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