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Gulf between players and fans

Charlton have been mighty bad at times in the past but fans have dealt with it because they felt connected to the club and the players. The connection now seems to be ebbing away and I féel largely indifferent to most of the players that turn out for us - we have gone through a massive amount of players in recent seasons and very few will be remembered.
I get the impression most of the players don't want to be here which is a sad state of affairs.

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    Bergdich / Ba / Reza are the only players that as a fan I dont really feel a connection with.

    One of the best things about the League One days though were that because the Grounds are smaller, the fans are closer to the players and therefore there was more communication between the two (i.e. You'd forever see John Sullivan having a chat with fans at away games in between his warm ups)...

    Unfortunately the way English Football has gone, the moment you get promoted to the Championship now, you do lose that closeness with the players (Have felt it ever since we came back up)
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    DOUCHER said:

    the booing of fox hasn't helped, that's 100% certain

    It happens when your ownership are forcing players that aren't good enough to be playing weekly as there are no other options, we as fans, most importantly, want our Club to succeed. That succession may be hard with players who are, currently at a League One if not League Two level are playing week in week out and struggling.

    I'm not agreeing with or promoting the use of boo's against your own players, but there's usually a reason to it. Most managers would demand they get a loan in to replace him to stop his confidence being shattered, but our owner simply doesn't care. He's ruining young players in his experiment trying to create them to sell them on.
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    DOUCHER said:

    the booing of fox hasn't helped, that's 100% certain

    Or the mocking of Mak
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    I know why they are being booed but its still not helping and its almost as though the fans have thrown the towel in and are enjoying the protests more than trying to help the team stay up - the current situation is bad - the belgiums are a joke - but the most important thing to me is that we stay up and that's why I'm not going to keep getting up and down all game or boo players who are trying their best. I'll protest outside and i'll withhold my season ticket money but the rest ain't helping.
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    Inevitably, fans identify less with a struggling side, plus a reliance on loan signings and here-today-gone-tomorrow imports dilutes the loyalty factor. Generally fans get behind players who are good or who works their socks off. Too often lately, the on-field performances would try the most patient man ...
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    There's many reasons for the gulf, but I think it's existed in football ever since the wages started to spiral. Most of us would turn out for Charlton for free so it's always going to be galling to see players seemingly not putting in 100% and getting shed-loads of money for it.

    It's a shame to see a young player like Fox getting abuse if he is playing to the best of his abilities - as has been said above it's not the lads fault - it's the fault of the owners/head coach for continuing to select him before he's ready.
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    Saga Lout said:



    It's a shame to see a young player like Fox getting abuse if he is playing to the best of his abilities - as has been said above it's not the lads fault - it's the fault of the owners/head coach for continuing to select him before he's ready.

    He's 22 years of age and has had 31 games so If he's thought not to be good enough yet then he might never be !

    This tickled me from Wiki: "To the dismay of all fans of Charlton Athletic, On 25 April 2014, Fox signed a new three-year deal, securing his future to Charlton until 2017"
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    Oh.....that's my birthday!
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    PL54 said:

    DOUCHER said:

    the booing of fox hasn't helped, that's 100% certain

    Or the mocking of Mak
    Or the goading of Gudmunsson

    or

    slating of Sarr
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    The jeering of Jackson

    and the

    vitriol aimed at Vetokele

    not to mention the

    poo-pooing of Pope
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    edited February 2016
    ...P***ed off with Polish Pete.
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    DOUCHER said:

    the booing of fox hasn't helped, that's 100% certain

    It hasn't helped, but to be honest at this stage who really cares? I'm one of the happiest, clappiest, support the playersest posters on here and even I'm not bothered about it anymore. We've won five times in the league this season and two of those were in August. Do we really have to dig ourselves out for getting on the players' backs? It's not helping but it can't possibly be making them any worse as we are hilariously bottom relying on £9m strikers scoring last minute equalisers for other teams against our relegation rivals to keep us in touch of survival. I still support the players but at the same time I've had enough of crap performances and enough of 'next time we'll do better' comments from players that come to nothing. I'm at the point where if Chris Solly has a bad game against Cardiff I'll follow him home and boo while he does his weekly shop round Tesco. And I love Chris Solly. It's time for the players to start being footballers.
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    Or the fact that Nick Pope was signing an autograph outside the ground on Saturday.

    As he was passed the pen, someone shouted "CAREFUL, HE'LL DROP IT!!"...
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    The ridiculing of Reza...
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    The ridiculing of Reza...

    The hounding of Henderson

    The slating of Solly

    The barracking of Bauer

    The diatribes aimed at Diarra

    The ******* off of Fanni

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    The ridiculing of Reza...

    The hounding of Henderson

    The slating of Solly

    The barracking of Bauer

    The diatribes aimed at Diarra

    The ******* off of Fanni

    Not to mention the tutting at Tutt.
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    The berating of Bergdich
    The cussing of Cousins
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    Most hit nail on the head.

    Everyone has their right to boo as they claim, yet want the players to be as open as anything and communicate better. Make your mind up.

    If I was Fox, even though I'm sure he knows he hasn't been in the best of forms, but I certainly wouldn't be pandering to some of the fans who boo me every week. Saying that, if you think about it, most of us would stick two fingers up at "communicating" also.
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    Vituperation at Vaz Te. (no wonder he left)
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    Misread the title of this thread and was hoping to read about an upcoming Ryder Cup style event;)
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    _nam11 said:

    Most hit nail on the head.

    Everyone has their right to boo as they claim, yet want the players to be as open as anything and communicate better. Make your mind up.

    If I was Fox, even though I'm sure he knows he hasn't been in the best of forms, but I certainly wouldn't be pandering to some of the fans who boo me every week. Saying that, if you think about it, most of us would stick two fingers up at "communicating" also.

    Shouldn't that be "sticking two fingers up AS communicating"?
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    The howling at Henderson

    The bitching at Bauer
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    To summarise, this is no longer OUR Charlton, and never will be until we get rid of the useless twosome. Elsewhere you will find the two options that I am considering while they are here.
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    We all identify with the players far less under this regime and reasons are obvious.

    However let's not fool ourselves into thinking this is a new phenomenon. (Pleased I got a spell checker). I distinctly recall Keith peacock getting slated, Peter Shaw, Lawrie maddern, Carl leaburn and even the hard working Garry Nelson. I generally don't agree with but it has probably always gone on at the valley and all other grounds.

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    Bloody hell!! I thought a charity 4 ball had been arranged at Shooters Hill between fans and players!!! In support of CARD and all that.
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