If you had to keep one of these 3 who would it be?
A) Yann
Wiggins
C) Stephens
Personally if I ran a club that was in the relegation zone and these were my best players then I would have done whatever it took to keep all three of them.
This really does leave a bitter taste. For all of the spin on the OS regarding this move it is very clear that the club offered him a new 2 year contract at substantially less than what he is on now. I know he is 32, but in this day and age, 32 isn't as over the hill as it used to be in terms of football. If someone came up to me at work and offered m a new contract earning less than what I do now, I'd look elsewhere too. The club have handled this whole situation extremely poorly. Letting Stephens, Alnwick and Yann leave in such quick succession really leaves alarm bells ringing. I'm sure the guys who have been brought in are all decnet enough platers, but have they been tried and tested in the Championship? Away at Barnsley et al on a cold winter night. I very much doubt it and I very much doubt they would have the heart, passion and willingness to get kicked about by defenders as Yann did. Good Luck Yann and every success fot the future, Our loss is Bournemouths gain.
Pathetic that some are deliberately manipulating the shite on the OS to make out he sold us out. He was offered a deal. Not an equivalent or a better deal. If I were the sort of person who likes to infer stuff from incomplete facts I'd say that meant a worse deal, but I'll leave that kind of thing to others.
If you were the best performer in your workplace and had previously turned down the chance to move to another company with better prospects, you'd probably expect that loyalty to be reciprocated. Apparently not. If you were offered better terms elsewhere you would probably go for it in those circumstances.
Fuck you Roland. I don't care if all of the substandard liergers turn out to be game changers, they're just a bunch of people, not my team, not my club.
If you had to keep one of these 3 who would it be?
A) Yann
Wiggins
C) Stephens
Personally if I ran a club that was in the relegation zone and these were my best players then I would have done whatever it took to keep all three of them.
Just trying to look at it slightly differently. Something has to change in order for us to get out of this relegation trouble we are in.
And let down all the people idolise me by refusing to play in the 4th rd of the fa cup and make the mgr decide what game was more important donny or the fa cup and change all the prep rd on fri and piss the lads off who done so well sat to go straight back in the team on tuesday
I do find it strange how some people here are so quick to dig Yann out and assign him mercenary status.
Maybe hindsight will later prove that Roland's decision was correct.
But let's not rewrite history. Yann was a player who gave far more for the cause than most. He was a key part of one of our most successful seasons in recent memory. And he continually made all the right noises about wanting to stay, but in the end it was Bournemouth who offered him more security for his family's future.
These were from his interview with the BOURNEMOUTH website today:
"I'm a Charlton fan as well. I had a very, very good relationship with the fans and I love them."
"I will always be grateful for what they (the Charlton fans) have done for me."
Why would he say that unless there was an element of truth there? If anything, it makes his task of winning over his new fans that much harder. You could say it was to avoid a boo at the Valley or something, but if that was the case every player would make similar statements after a transfer. They don't.
New era now, and time to move on. But that doesn't mean we won't miss Yann.
And let down all the people idolise me by refusing to play in the 4th rd of the fa cup and make the mgr decide what game was more important donny or the fa cup and change all the prep rd on fri and piss the lads off who done so well sat to go straight back in the team on tuesday
Yeah fuck off Roland
^ That's conjecture. Might be true. Would make sense. But we'll never know.
And let down all the people idolise me by refusing to play in the 4th rd of the fa cup and make the mgr decide what game was more important donny or the fa cup and change all the prep rd on fri and piss the lads off who done so well sat to go straight back in the team on tuesday
The comment he made about not being expected to move in this window lead me to believe that perhaps he would have at least been happy to have stayed until the summer but the club chose to cash in and he had little say in the matter. I also think the tone of the interview implied he didnt want to leave us generally. Even worse...A cold wet Tuesday night at SPOTLAND!!
When we are losing 1-0 at home to Rochdale next season on a cold Tuesday night we arent going to have someone stood over a free kick who will save us.
Aint conjecture its a fact and I aint the only one who knew it
If you say so. Doesn't change my opinion of Yann one bit. As for some saying he was "holding the club to ransom", absolute tosh. What he gave to us over two and a bit years absolutely outweighs everything else.
Feel pretty gutted , we all knew this was going to happen , but it feels like my heart has been ripped out , and a little bit more of whats left that i love about football has been taken away , good luck Yann , thanks for the memories.
Wouldn't change my opinion of the man though based on his commitment over the last 2 1/2 years.
At that point playing / not playing MAY have had a huge impact on his family's future.
It clearly didn't annoy Powell or his teammates too much. The latter said, just yesterday, how much he wanted him to stay. Would he have said that if he had fallen out / was let down by him? No, of course not.
Tom like I said I loved yann he was a great player for us
But to treat you and I like that at the end is not what he shouldve done
If you want to ignore it and idolise him still then that's your right
I aint rubbishing him or his record I said before I was uncomfortable with the I won't sign till I know what powell is doing as it smacks of holding the club to ransom to a degree but I could understand it
But he has damaged his rep with me and others with what he done on thursday/friday last week and that is not what kins or rufus woukdve done proper legends and proper cafc lovers
This day and age legends are rare, players come and go like clockwork and football is too much of a business and taken too seriously on individual choice.
Having said that he's a legend of the naughtys +1. Compared to what we have been used to since our premier league relegation, he was a blessing.
Tom like I said I loved yann he was a great player for us
But to treat you and I like that at the end is not what he shouldve done
If you want to ignore it and idolise him still then that's your right
I aint rubbishing him or his record I said before I was uncomfortable with the I won't sign till I know what powell is doing as it smacks of holding the club to ransom to a degree but I could understand it
But he has damaged his rep with me and others with what he done on thursday/friday last week and that is not what kins or rufus woukdve done proper legends and proper cafc lovers
I can guarantee you now that every single one of our current players or former legends has at some point in their career done something a little bit sneaky that fans wouldn't always approve of. Feigning an injury when not feeling up for a game, telling the odd white lie to get a better contract. Its that kind of industry, and Yann is no exception to that.
The only difference is that you just happen to have heard about it in the case of Yann.
Keep in mind that Yann doesn't act alone in any of these actions, he is always being advised by agents who are looking out for him. Now, lets say what you're saying is true, and he ended up getting a new contract as a result of it - I really wouldn't have minded.
He maybe tried playing the game a little bit, not a crime when you consider some of the mercenary tactics that do go on in this industry.
You think that putting yourself over your team mates playing in the next rd of the fa cup and potentially pulling a top 4 pem team didn't upset his team mates
Of course powell wanted him to stay I think everyone did including me and that was after I knew I still wanted him to stay
He was a quality player for us
But he did do something that
A put powells job more at risk
B couldve put us out the cup
C disrespected each and everyone of us and the badge
once 6ft 3inch Piotr Parzyszek heads the winning goal tomoz,most will soon forget Kerm and get on with cheering our Charlton on and getting out of this relegation battle,onwards and upwards
I wish him all the best at Bournemouth and will be getting a good reception from most of us, we don't know what's going on or being said behind the scenes, he wouldn't of left us if it wasn't a better opportunity for him.. He'll be back some day I'm sure, hopefully as a coach or similar :-)
Posted this on the rumours thread, but I've also heard he's going despite being at the training ground today.
Also heard there was a big fallout and Powell was nearly sacked today, but the situation was recovered.
Turns out the Powell rumour you posted on every thread was a load of bo lax then, unless he is being diplomatic in the interview that just came out
Not sure which interview you are referring to, the CAFC Player one from yesterday *morning* perhaps.
I'm not sure if by every thread you mean two (the actual amount of relevant threads I posted it on)?
I posted what I had heard from a source, at least 2 out of the last 3 statements have been correct (first to post that Smith was leaving & stated prior to Richard Cawley that Kermo defo leaving yesterday afternoon)
Fear not though, I'll stay quiet in future, all the best.
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My point is that I think out of the 3 the right choice has been made.
If someone came up to me at work and offered m a new contract earning less than what I do now, I'd look elsewhere too.
The club have handled this whole situation extremely poorly. Letting Stephens, Alnwick and Yann leave in such quick succession really leaves alarm bells ringing. I'm sure the guys who have been brought in are all decnet enough platers, but have they been tried and tested in the Championship? Away at Barnsley et al on a cold winter night. I very much doubt it and I very much doubt they would have the heart, passion and willingness to get kicked about by defenders as Yann did.
Good Luck Yann and every success fot the future, Our loss is Bournemouths gain.
If you were the best performer in your workplace and had previously turned down the chance to move to another company with better prospects, you'd probably expect that loyalty to be reciprocated. Apparently not. If you were offered better terms elsewhere you would probably go for it in those circumstances.
Fuck you Roland. I don't care if all of the substandard liergers turn out to be game changers, they're just a bunch of people, not my team, not my club.
Yeah fuck off Roland
Maybe hindsight will later prove that Roland's decision was correct.
But let's not rewrite history. Yann was a player who gave far more for the cause than most. He was a key part of one of our most successful seasons in recent memory. And he continually made all the right noises about wanting to stay, but in the end it was Bournemouth who offered him more security for his family's future.
These were from his interview with the BOURNEMOUTH website today:
"I'm a Charlton fan as well. I had a very, very good relationship with the fans and I love them."
"I will always be grateful for what they (the Charlton fans) have done for me."
Why would he say that unless there was an element of truth there? If anything, it makes his task of winning over his new fans that much harder. You could say it was to avoid a boo at the Valley or something, but if that was the case every player would make similar statements after a transfer. They don't.
New era now, and time to move on. But that doesn't mean we won't miss Yann.
He's clearly unhappy and wanted to move/more money, and we've gained two strikers out of it.
Wouldn't change my opinion of the man though based on his commitment over the last 2 1/2 years.
At that point playing / not playing MAY have had a huge impact on his family's future.
It clearly didn't annoy Powell or his teammates too much. The latter said, just yesterday, how much he wanted him to stay. Would he have said that if he had fallen out / was let down by him? No, of course not.
Sad day for me. What a man, that Yann Kermorgant
But to treat you and I like that at the end is not what he shouldve done
If you want to ignore it and idolise him still then that's your right
I aint rubbishing him or his record I said before I was uncomfortable with the I won't sign till I know what powell is doing as it smacks of holding the club to ransom to a degree but I could understand it
But he has damaged his rep with me and others with what he done on thursday/friday last week and that is not what kins or rufus woukdve done proper legends and proper cafc lovers
Having said that he's a legend of the naughtys +1. Compared to what we have been used to since our premier league relegation, he was a blessing.
The only difference is that you just happen to have heard about it in the case of Yann.
Keep in mind that Yann doesn't act alone in any of these actions, he is always being advised by agents who are looking out for him. Now, lets say what you're saying is true, and he ended up getting a new contract as a result of it - I really wouldn't have minded.
He maybe tried playing the game a little bit, not a crime when you consider some of the mercenary tactics that do go on in this industry.
Of course powell wanted him to stay I think everyone did including me and that was after I knew I still wanted him to stay
He was a quality player for us
But he did do something that
A put powells job more at risk
B couldve put us out the cup
C disrespected each and everyone of us and the badge
Good luck Yann and well done Roland for sealing our relegation
Be careful what you wish for
I'm not sure if by every thread you mean two (the actual amount of relevant threads I posted it on)?
I posted what I had heard from a source, at least 2 out of the last 3 statements have been correct (first to post that Smith was leaving & stated prior to Richard Cawley that Kermo defo leaving yesterday afternoon)
Fear not though, I'll stay quiet in future, all the best.