like we treated Carlton Cole when his roasting allegations came to light no doubt
Roasting is a bit different. Although a majority of us wouldn't want to have sex with a woman while half a dozen of your friends stand by watching, or come to that, with a woman who is willing to also let them all have a go, as long as she's willing, there's nothing wrong with this in the eyes of the law.
If you just continued following the people you follow, you would have been none the wiser unless someone you follow happened to rewteet it (which is unlikely).
The tree has fallen, and whether you were there to hear it or not is irrelevant. I think you have missed the point - but you do have the option of sticking your head in the sand and living a happier, if somewhat less responsible life. Each to their own.
It was a disgusting act caused by 2 people 1 found innocent the other not
The amount of people trying to second guess the judical outcome with their expertise is sickening
Justice for ched is disgusting ,
allow the course of justice to follow its legal obligations VIA appeal if that is what needs to happen
There are some really weird people in the world trying to point score
The girl was drunk , under the grounds of probability she seems to have agreed to go back to a hotel with 1 young man , if he should have had intercourse with her being in such a drunk state is doubtful but you could argue she consented hence why she got into a cab with him
He then texts a mate saying he has got a bird (the only thing on the texts that I can find reported)
The pal turns up and who knows what is said or what happend next
The evidence is not out there in the public domain
Allow Evans to have his appeal if he is found innocent then objective achieved if he is still found guilty then there you have it
I suspect it's morality rather than the technicalities of the law which got Evans as much as anything else - juries are going to be less likely trust someone who has lied his way into the room (this, he admitted) and then treated the girl as a piece of meat. A lawyer may argue that you can't convict on that basis (which presumably why he may appeal), but it seems that he turned up in that room pretty much assuming the answer would be 'yes' - which then makes you wonder whether anyone in fact asked.
One obvious conclusion is that telling yourself "I **** who I want" or "we're Charlton Athletic, we do what we want" does nobody much good in the long run. Perhaps we should rename a popular thread on this site as "Wouldya....if she gave clear and unambiguous consent?"
He then texts a mate saying he has got a bird (the only thing on the texts that I can find reported)
The pal turns up and who knows what is said or what happend next
correct, but the pal turns up uninvited with a couple of mates to watch to boot. To me this is the crux of the matter. Evans turns up uninvited and for one reason only.
like we treated Carlton Cole when his roasting allegations came to light no doubt
Roasting is a bit different. Although a majority of us wouldn't want to have sex with a woman while half a dozen of your friends stand by watching, or come to that, with a woman who is willing to also let them all have a go, as long as she's willing, there's nothing wrong with this in the eyes of the law.
Although a majority of us wouldn't want to have sex with a woman while half a dozen of your friends stand by watching........
I just find the whole thing absolutely disgusting from start to finish, and anyone who tries to justify the actions of any of the 3 involved without being there are niave to say the least and down right nasty to say the most
i think everyone should just wait for the appeal if there is one
He will do at least 2 thirds of his sentence, any sentence below 4 years is automatically halved, anything above is 2 thirds at least, and sex offenders usually unlikely to get a tag etc.
He will go to the nearest cat A or B prison, and will be given a choice of serving his sentence in the general population or the VPU (Vunerable Persons Unit) which is mostly made up of nonces, rapists etc and some genuinely fragile and scared prisoners who cant take the rough and tumble of general prison wings. He will be advised to go to the VPU however, as he is high profile, otherwise he could have taken his chances, but to be found out as a rapist on a general wing would be a beating waiting to happen. With good behaviour he could be moved to a cat C, there is a big one in Milton Keynes which specifically handles sex offenders, and is normally refused by most general population prisoners if offered because of its reputation and stigma attached to being there, ie, you get tarnished regardless of your own crime.
If you just continued following the people you follow, you would have been none the wiser unless someone you follow happened to rewteet it (which is unlikely).
The tree has fallen, and whether you were there to hear it or not is irrelevant. I think you have missed the point - but you do have the option of sticking your head in the sand and living a happier, if somewhat less responsible life. Each to their own.
honestly you need to lose the chip on your shoulder. its embarrasing.
What on Earth are you talking about, Gary? I don't remotely have a chip - I disagree with what the guy said. If you have a specific point, I suggest you make it, rather than post bitchy little comments like this.
like we treated Carlton Cole when his roasting allegations came to light no doubt
Roasting is a bit different. Although a majority of us wouldn't want to have sex with a woman while half a dozen of your friends stand by watching, or come to that, with a woman who is willing to also let them all have a go, as long as she's willing, there's nothing wrong with this in the eyes of the law.
Although a majority of us wouldn't want to have sex with a woman while half a dozen of your friends stand by watching........
Were you never young???
Yeah, did you ever have any morals?
Not in the early 80's no.
Then that's a sad reflection on your parents then.......................
Being thick as shit, and a nasty piece of work are very often ignored and blocked out by the other half if they are well-off and 'famous'.
How can you stick up for someone who does this while presumably leaving the curtains open so his mate and brother can laugh and try film it from outside.
His girlfriend is a dumb, vacuous bint with no self-respect or shame as far as I am concerned.
like we treated Carlton Cole when his roasting allegations came to light no doubt
Roasting is a bit different. Although a majority of us wouldn't want to have sex with a woman while half a dozen of your friends stand by watching, or come to that, with a woman who is willing to also let them all have a go, as long as she's willing, there's nothing wrong with this in the eyes of the law.
Although a majority of us wouldn't want to have sex with a woman while half a dozen of your friends stand by watching........
not sure if has already been mentioned but conner brown of Sheffield united has been suspended by the club for what he wrote on twitter, defending Evens and accusing the women of being a "money grabbing tramp". Her name has been used (which is against the law) on twitter. she has received a barrage of abuse from supporters of Evens.
though one of those reports might be from sky news...they are also in trouble for disclosing the name of the woman on a TV broadcast. Twitter and Murdoch...fucking ridiculous.
Sheffield United take action against Connor Brown.
robstaton: Sheffield United have iConnor Brown pending an investigation into comments he made on Twitter. #sufc
I agree with what they have done but it is the inconsistency that annoys me both players should have been suspended on full pay .So its one rule for the rapist star striker who scored 35 goals another for the stupid reserve player .
There wouldn't be much point in suspending Evans, would there? He's hardly likely to turn up at the training ground i an the near future and since he is ifrom work without good cause I also doubt if he is being paid. SUFC have nothing to gain by saying or doing while the case is sub judice.
Brown, on the other hand, has been incredibly stupid. Fortunately for him stupidity - regardless of how extreme - is not a criminal offence.
Despite what anyone thinks of him,I reckon he has a very good chance of walking on appeal as the Judges don't like it when the Jury doesn't do what its told. I also wonder if a retrial gets ordered does it have to be in the same court?
Despite what anyone thinks of him,I reckon he has a very good chance of walking on appeal as the Judges don't like it when the Jury doesn't do what its told. I also wonder if a retrial gets ordered does it have to be in the same court?
richie8. I may be just taking a really wild guess here and for all I know you may be the Lord Chief Justice but I suspect that you know f**k all about the trial system:-) Did you hear the opening or closing speeches? Did you hear the evidence? Did you hear the summing up and directions to the jury? Do you know the respective roles of the judge and jury? What in the name of sanity makes you write that the jury didn't 'do what its told'???
IF his application for leave to appeal is successful and IF he is successful in his appeal, then any retrial does not have to be in the same court.
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The amount of people trying to second guess the judical outcome with their expertise is sickening
Justice for ched is disgusting ,
allow the course of justice to follow its legal obligations VIA appeal if that is what needs to happen
There are some really weird people in the world trying to point score
The girl was drunk , under the grounds of probability she seems to have agreed to go back to a hotel with 1 young man , if he should have had intercourse with her being in such a drunk state is doubtful but you could argue she consented hence why she got into a cab with him
He then texts a mate saying he has got a bird (the only thing on the texts that I can find reported)
The pal turns up and who knows what is said or what happend next
The evidence is not out there in the public domain
Allow Evans to have his appeal if he is found innocent then objective achieved if he is still found guilty then there you have it
One obvious conclusion is that telling yourself "I **** who I want" or "we're Charlton Athletic, we do what we want" does nobody much good in the long run. Perhaps we should rename a popular thread on this site as "Wouldya....if she gave clear and unambiguous consent?"
i think everyone should just wait for the appeal if there is one
He will go to the nearest cat A or B prison, and will be given a choice of serving his sentence in the general population or the VPU (Vunerable Persons Unit) which is mostly made up of nonces, rapists etc and some genuinely fragile and scared prisoners who cant take the rough and tumble of general prison wings. He will be advised to go to the VPU however, as he is high profile, otherwise he could have taken his chances, but to be found out as a rapist on a general wing would be a beating waiting to happen. With good behaviour he could be moved to a cat C, there is a big one in Milton Keynes which specifically handles sex offenders, and is normally refused by most general population prisoners if offered because of its reputation and stigma attached to being there, ie, you get tarnished regardless of your own crime.
How can you stick up for someone who does this while presumably leaving the curtains open so his mate and brother can laugh and try film it from outside.
His girlfriend is a dumb, vacuous bint with no self-respect or shame as far as I am concerned.
Her name has been used (which is against the law) on twitter. she has received a barrage of abuse from supporters of Evens.
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16214315
http://www.news.com.au/world/police-probe-naming-of-welsh-soccer-player-ched-evans-rape-victim/story-e6frfkyi-1226336955598
though one of those reports might be from sky news...they are also in trouble for disclosing the name of the woman on a TV broadcast. Twitter and Murdoch...fucking ridiculous.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17822719
There wouldn't be much point in suspending Evans, would there? He's hardly likely to turn up at the training ground i an the near future and since he is ifrom work without good cause I also doubt if he is being paid. SUFC have nothing to gain by saying or doing while the case is sub judice.
Brown, on the other hand, has been incredibly stupid. Fortunately for him stupidity - regardless of how extreme - is not a criminal offence.
IF his application for leave to appeal is successful and IF he is successful in his appeal, then any retrial does not have to be in the same court.
Does anyone know what his grounds for appeal are - other than the fact that he doesn't like it in jail?