Pardew's signings

BigRedEvil

Thatcher- £500k released on a free
Bougherra- Bought for £2.5m sold for £2.5m
ZZ bought for-£2m, possibly being sold for the same amount
Iwelumo-Free transfer sold undisclosed
McCarthy- Cost £650k sold undisclosed
Powell-FREE
Weaver-FREE
Yassin- £400k
Hudson-FREE
Sodje-LOAN
Cook-LOAN
Racon-£370k
Semedo-FREE
Gray-£1.5m
Varney-£2m
Fleetwood-£200k
Dickson-£35k
Dean Sinclair-£125k
Scott Sinclair-LOAN
McLeod-£1.1m
Toddy-FREE
Christensen-£250k
Mills-LOAN
Smith
Monteiro

Haven't missed anyone have I?

Cafc #1

And despite Mcleod, Sinclair, Monteiro, Smith.......

Id say hes done bloody well!!

Oggy Red

I've heard we only pay for Christiansen once certain conditions have been met and we're happy with him - which so far we're not - no transfer fee paid as yet.

Iwelumo - apparently £400k
McCarthy - apparently £650k, same as we paid.
Boogie - apparently there's some add ons, and the fee could possibly be £3mill eventually.
Signing ZZ ......ultimately reaching £2 mill with add-ons, I think we initially paid quite a bit less than that.
Varney's & Grays fees were a lesser sum plus add-ons.


Don't forget, every free signing also costs us money too. No transfer fee ... but a hefty signing on fee up front to the player (maybe sometimes as compensation to keep him in line with the club wage structure).

Loan signings are rarely free either ....... usually a substantial sum/fee is paid to the parent club (sometimes per match appearance fee) plus wages or part of wages, the difference being met by the parent club.



Players fees/values are amortised, so at the end of the contract they are financially worthless - which is why they are often let go at reduced value in the last year of contract, rather than walk away for nothing on a Bosman.

And as we guessed, why the club are prepared perhaps to let ZZ go.

BlackForestReds

Haven't missed anyone have I?

....

Leroy Lita...

Paddy7

Although a lot of us have concerns at the moment, he clearly hasn't made big losses, and hopefully some of the above will still come good. Perhaps the forwards have been expensive, but if any one / two of them hit rich form, we won't mind too much (Mcleod might still shine if he comes in under less pressure, and Dicko does appear to have goals in him, if not the complete package). Maynard just cost Bristol City about the same as Varney, so it'll be interesting to see how he fares in similar conditions.

Barn Door Varney

[cite]Posted By: Paddy7[/cite]Although a lot of us have concerns at the moment, he clearly hasn't made big losses, and hopefully some of the above will still come good. Perhaps the forwards have been expensive, but if any one / two of them hit rich form, we won't mind too much (Mcleod might still shine if he comes in under less pressure, and Dicko does appear to have goals in him, if not the complete package). Maynard just cost Bristol City about the same as Varney, so it'll be interesting to see how he fares in similar conditions.

The problem I have with Pardews signings is that once he has signed them, he doesn't back them by playing them.

Mcloed is a prime example. Having paid £1.1m for him, he started 2 games with a handful of sub appearences. Recon, who Pardew rated highly according to the OS, has played even less.

Oggy Red

McLeod clearly needed time to adapt, despite evidently being red hot in training.

Maybe Racon too ....... different pace of game, unsettled in England or whatever.
Pards must have had reason not to play him regularly, or perhaps with a big squad was in no rush to just throw him in.
Maybe we'll see the benefits of that this season, and he seems to have made a decent contribution pre-season.

Paddy7

Fair point Barn Door. Accepting that he sees far more than we do in training etc., selection did seem confused at times with too many options and short-term changes. So often, wholesale changes such as the return to an emphasis on pace (the young full backs, Varney, McLeod), seemed to dry up within a couple of disappointing results, rather than sticking with a firmly held belief in a system. Centre back pairings also changed constantly but injuries / suspensions played a part. Hopefully Pards has learned from last season, and also now knows all his remaining players' strengths and weaknesses a lot better.

LenGlover

sorry wrong thread!

golfaddick

problem is oggy we don't have time to let players " adapt" or "settle in" or "get used to the English game"

we need players who can come in & play 30 - 40 games a season from the off - "hit the ground running" as Pards said a few weeks ago.

Heard it mentioned that he's thinking of letting Fleetwood go out on loan as its a big step up from non-league to the CCC .........no s**t. Although this helped Dickson last year scored 10 for the Gills - he could having been scoring goals for us.

we havn't the resources to get players in to loan them out again.

BlackForestReds

we havn't the resources to get players in to loan them out again.

............

If Toddy, Varney, Gray and Dickson are fit how much first team football will Fleetwood play? Will he even be put on the bench? Better that he goes on loan for a month, gets properly up to speed and comes back match fit. In any case he has played professionally in the past - having had a few games for Cardiff and been on their books coming up through the ranks, plus he played for Hereford and Accrington Stanley.

Oggy Red

As BFR said, Fleetwood has already racked up some League experience including, I believe, 12 League & cup games for Cardiff in the CCC, mainly as sub. Fleetwood has also played 5 times for Wales U-21.

But then, Dizzy McLeod played for England U-21. He could be a wildcard for us when's fit again - or shipped right out the door in the January window.

I personally hope he stays. Apart from his lack of goals - his pace, movement and link up with other players was reasonably impressive. Could easily come back, a very effective front runner, compared with the frightened deer frozen in the glare of the headlights, that he seemed to be last season.

Pards has said that ideally he wants 2 senior pro's for each team position. He won't stint on the forwards, at one stage last March, he only had Iwelumo & Lita fit - and Varney, Gray, Toddy, Dickson, McLeod all injured.

In anycase, in home matches Pards likes 2 strikers on the bench, so that's 4 strikers involved. Throw in a suspension and an injury or two, then you could see at some point every fit forward getting a game or at least on the bench.