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F A Cup 25/26 - 3rd round Charlton v Chelsea (date tbc) p6

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  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,930
    Can’t see the police allowing Chelsea to extend beyond the JS Stand unless Charlton bottle the home take-up and argue for it (which would be poor).
    the club must know that priced correctly the home ends will sell out for this one?, my boy watched the cup draw yesterday and nearly hit the ceiling when Chelsea's name came out.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,520
    Given we've been smashed in the Championship lately, I am surprised how excited people are to see us play against one of the best teams in the world (even if that is less true than previous years). I can't see this being close especially with the state of our squad. 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,853
    AS1987 said:
    AS1987 said:
    Should this end up on TV what’s the schedule and how ‘inconvenient’ could it get if we are unlucky ?

     Is the worst scenario 530pm on the Sunday or are there some other obscure options?
    So last year's TV games for the Third Round:

    - Thursday @ 7pm and 7:45pm
    - Friday @ 8pm
    - Saturday @ 12:15pm and 5:45pm
    - Sunday @ 12:30pm, 3pm and 4:30pm
    - Monday @ 7:30pm
    If there are that many slots, then it's practically guaranteed that this is on TV.

    In my opinion, there are three very obvious TV options:

    Wrexham v Nottingham Forest
    Macclesfield v Crystal Palace
    Boreham Wood v Burton Albion

    That leaves six slots and I'm struggling to see anything else more TV-worthy than Charlton v Chelsea. To keep this off TV, the other six would be from these eight:

    Portsmouth v Arsenal
    Cheltenham Town v Leicester City
    Franchise FC v Oxford Utd
    Sheffield Wednesday v Brentford
    Manchester City v Exeter City
    Liverpool v Barnsley
    Tottenham v Aston Villa
    Manchester United v Brighton
    Why are Wrexham v Forest or Portsmouth v Arsenal more 'obvious' than Charlton v Chelsea?

    They are each Championship at home to Premier League. 
    Only the first three are guaranteed TV slots. The media aren't going to pass up the opportunity to have the media circus at home to a Premier League side that finished 7th last season and are struggling this season.

    There's not much between Portsmouth v Arsenal and Charlton v Chelsea imo. We have the appeal of a London derby and a guaranteed strong away following.

    I do think Portsmouth v Arsenal offers slightly more, but I didn't state that in the post you replied to.

    I think the edge that tie has over ours is:

    Fratton Park is a tighter and louder stadium than The Valley.
    Arsenal are bigger than Chelsea right now.
    We don't have a reputation for giant-killing, whereas Portsmouth do (the 07/08 FA cup springs to mind).
    Is Fratton Park louder than a full Valley? I don’t think so, and it’s certainly less aesthetic .

    As for giant killing, what about when we beat them away in the League Cup? 
    Portsmouth beat Cardiff in the final of 2008. I hardly remember much giant killing.

    Arsenal are currently better than Chelsea hence less chance of an upset. Chelsea are current World Champions, and Arsenal have never won the Champions League and haven’t won the Premier League for over 20 years, so I’m not sure the younger generation see Arsenal as bigger

    It seems to me on this thread that our fans like to downgrade us all the time with some kind of deflated view of our history and general status in English football, due perhaps to our recent dismal period.
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,839
    edited 12:21PM

    iaitch said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Seems like the balls weren’t mixed up properly as 10 plays 11. Much better than Burnley away, though (9 v 10).
    tv companies will be chomping at the bit to show that cracker at turf moor - got goals written all over it 😂
    They could have dubbed it the Scott Parker derby.

    Who gets the delight of welcoming the spanners that weekend
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,839
    iaitch said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Seems like the balls weren’t mixed up properly as 10 plays 11. Much better than Burnley away, though (9 v 10).
    tv companies will be chomping at the bit to show that cracker at turf moor - got goals written all over it 😂
    They could have dubbed it the Scott Minto derby.

    Don't know who this Parker you speak of (edited it for you)
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,535
    Dazzler21 said:
    Given we've been smashed in the Championship lately, I am surprised how excited people are to see us play against one of the best teams in the world (even if that is less true than previous years). I can't see this being close especially with the state of our squad. 
    Doesn't matter, it's a cup game and anything can happen. Plus depends how seriously they take it, they might put out kids and overpaid but never played ressies and get turned over by a resurgent Charlton side with a hat-trick from new signing Fukuda 😎
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,841
    AS1987 said:
    AS1987 said:
    Should this end up on TV what’s the schedule and how ‘inconvenient’ could it get if we are unlucky ?

     Is the worst scenario 530pm on the Sunday or are there some other obscure options?
    So last year's TV games for the Third Round:

    - Thursday @ 7pm and 7:45pm
    - Friday @ 8pm
    - Saturday @ 12:15pm and 5:45pm
    - Sunday @ 12:30pm, 3pm and 4:30pm
    - Monday @ 7:30pm
    If there are that many slots, then it's practically guaranteed that this is on TV.

    In my opinion, there are three very obvious TV options:

    Wrexham v Nottingham Forest
    Macclesfield v Crystal Palace
    Boreham Wood v Burton Albion

    That leaves six slots and I'm struggling to see anything else more TV-worthy than Charlton v Chelsea. To keep this off TV, the other six would be from these eight:

    Portsmouth v Arsenal
    Cheltenham Town v Leicester City
    Franchise FC v Oxford Utd
    Sheffield Wednesday v Brentford
    Manchester City v Exeter City
    Liverpool v Barnsley
    Tottenham v Aston Villa
    Manchester United v Brighton
    Why are Wrexham v Forest or Portsmouth v Arsenal more 'obvious' than Charlton v Chelsea?

    They are each Championship at home to Premier League. 
    Only the first three are guaranteed TV slots. The media aren't going to pass up the opportunity to have the media circus at home to a Premier League side that finished 7th last season and are struggling this season.

    There's not much between Portsmouth v Arsenal and Charlton v Chelsea imo. We have the appeal of a London derby and a guaranteed strong away following.

    I do think Portsmouth v Arsenal offers slightly more, but I didn't state that in the post you replied to.

    I think the edge that tie has over ours is:

    Fratton Park is a tighter and louder stadium than The Valley.
    Arsenal are bigger than Chelsea right now.
    We don't have a reputation for giant-killing, whereas Portsmouth do (the 07/08 FA cup springs to mind).
    Is Fratton Park louder than a full Valley? I don’t think so, and it’s certainly less aesthetic .

    As for giant killing, what about when we beat them away in the League Cup? 
    Portsmouth beat Cardiff in the final of 2008. I hardly remember much giant killing.

    Arsenal are currently better than Chelsea hence less chance of an upset. Chelsea are current World Champions, and Arsenal have never won the Champions League and haven’t won the Premier League for over 20 years, so I’m not sure the younger generation see Arsenal as bigger

    It seems to me on this thread that our fans like to downgrade us all the time with some kind of deflated view of our history and general status in English football, due perhaps to our recent dismal period.
    Fratton Park is one of the loudest grounds in the country. To try and claim The Valley is louder is delusional.
  • KingKinsella
    KingKinsella Posts: 1,347
    0-10 and thats only to half time
  • AS1987
    AS1987 Posts: 67
    AS1987 said:
    Should this end up on TV what’s the schedule and how ‘inconvenient’ could it get if we are unlucky ?

     Is the worst scenario 530pm on the Sunday or are there some other obscure options?
    So last year's TV games for the Third Round:

    - Thursday @ 7pm and 7:45pm
    - Friday @ 8pm
    - Saturday @ 12:15pm and 5:45pm
    - Sunday @ 12:30pm, 3pm and 4:30pm
    - Monday @ 7:30pm
    If there are that many slots, then it's practically guaranteed that this is on TV.

    In my opinion, there are three very obvious TV options:

    Wrexham v Nottingham Forest
    Macclesfield v Crystal Palace
    Boreham Wood v Burton Albion

    That leaves six slots and I'm struggling to see anything else more TV-worthy than Charlton v Chelsea. To keep this off TV, the other six would be from these eight:

    Portsmouth v Arsenal
    Cheltenham Town v Leicester City
    Franchise FC v Oxford Utd
    Sheffield Wednesday v Brentford
    Manchester City v Exeter City
    Liverpool v Barnsley
    Tottenham v Aston Villa
    Manchester United v Brighton
    What’s the big attraction for showing mk dons v Oxford ? 
    There isn't really. I think our tie is practically guaranteed to be on TV. From the remaining fixtures, Franchise FC v Oxford United was one that has the potential to be picked as the ones that I didn't list are even less appealing. Newcastle v Bournemouth and Stoke v Coventry aren't exactly exciting draws.

    Franchise FC are two divisions below Oxford Utd, actually have a fairly decent chance of winning the tie (a televised upset) while it's also relatively regional. There's absolutely no reason to pick it over Charlton v Chelsea.

    AS1987 said:
    AS1987 said:
    Should this end up on TV what’s the schedule and how ‘inconvenient’ could it get if we are unlucky ?

     Is the worst scenario 530pm on the Sunday or are there some other obscure options?
    So last year's TV games for the Third Round:

    - Thursday @ 7pm and 7:45pm
    - Friday @ 8pm
    - Saturday @ 12:15pm and 5:45pm
    - Sunday @ 12:30pm, 3pm and 4:30pm
    - Monday @ 7:30pm
    If there are that many slots, then it's practically guaranteed that this is on TV.

    In my opinion, there are three very obvious TV options:

    Wrexham v Nottingham Forest
    Macclesfield v Crystal Palace
    Boreham Wood v Burton Albion

    That leaves six slots and I'm struggling to see anything else more TV-worthy than Charlton v Chelsea. To keep this off TV, the other six would be from these eight:

    Portsmouth v Arsenal
    Cheltenham Town v Leicester City
    Franchise FC v Oxford Utd
    Sheffield Wednesday v Brentford
    Manchester City v Exeter City
    Liverpool v Barnsley
    Tottenham v Aston Villa
    Manchester United v Brighton
    Why are Wrexham v Forest or Portsmouth v Arsenal more 'obvious' than Charlton v Chelsea?

    They are each Championship at home to Premier League. 
    Only the first three are guaranteed TV slots. The media aren't going to pass up the opportunity to have the media circus at home to a Premier League side that finished 7th last season and are struggling this season.

    There's not much between Portsmouth v Arsenal and Charlton v Chelsea imo. We have the appeal of a London derby and a guaranteed strong away following.

    I do think Portsmouth v Arsenal offers slightly more, but I didn't state that in the post you replied to.

    I think the edge that tie has over ours is:

    Fratton Park is a tighter and louder stadium than The Valley.
    Arsenal are bigger than Chelsea right now.
    We don't have a reputation for giant-killing, whereas Portsmouth do (the 07/08 FA cup springs to mind).
    Is Fratton Park louder than a full Valley? I don’t think so, and it’s certainly less aesthetic .

    As for giant killing, what about when we beat them away in the League Cup? 
    Portsmouth beat Cardiff in the final of 2008. I hardly remember much giant killing.

    Arsenal are currently better than Chelsea hence less chance of an upset. Chelsea are current World Champions, and Arsenal have never won the Champions League and haven’t won the Premier League for over 20 years, so I’m not sure the younger generation see Arsenal as bigger

    It seems to me on this thread that our fans like to downgrade us all the time with some kind of deflated view of our history and general status in English football, due perhaps to our recent dismal period.
    It's definitely a louder ground and it being less aesthetic is actually part of the appeal.

    Pompey beat Manchester United at Old Trafford that season in the FA Cup. That was back when Man Utd were still a decent team (league winners that season).

    The biggest thing I remember us doing in the FA Cup was beating Blackburn Rovers (a big team at the time) in a replay at Ewood Park way back in 93/94. On the flipside, I have several memories of us being the victim of giant-killing in the FA Cup.
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,839
    sam3110 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Given we've been smashed in the Championship lately, I am surprised how excited people are to see us play against one of the best teams in the world (even if that is less true than previous years). I can't see this being close especially with the state of our squad. 
    Doesn't matter, it's a cup game and anything can happen.  😎

    Also it is Chelsea

     



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  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,910
    sam3110 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Given we've been smashed in the Championship lately, I am surprised how excited people are to see us play against one of the best teams in the world (even if that is less true than previous years). I can't see this being close especially with the state of our squad. 
    Doesn't matter, it's a cup game and anything can happen. Plus depends how seriously they take it, they might put out kids and overpaid but never played ressies and get turned over by a resurgent Charlton side with a hat-trick from new signing Fukuda 😎
    Chelski have "important league matches" in the midweeks before and after.
  • YTS1978
    YTS1978 Posts: 1,738
    Just praying its not moved to sunday as it will really mess with my roast dinner plans!
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,341
    As for giant killing, what about when we beat them away in the League Cup? 



    It seems to me on this thread that our fans like to downgrade us all the time with some kind of deflated view of our history and general status in English football
    Yep that massive giant killing as second in The Premiership Charlton went to top of the table Chelsea and knocked them out .

    oh yeah 

  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,841
    For what it's worth, Sky Sports have named us as one of the most interesting ties in the round.

    Though they also say Spurs v Villa is the best of the lot.


  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,839
    Croydon said:
    For what it's worth, Sky Sports have named us as one of the most interesting ties in the round.



    Eddie Howe to be reunited with Bournemouth considering he has managed as many games against them as he has Newcastle now. 

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,181
    https://www.thefa.com/news/2025/oct/10/arsenal-sanctioned-by-pgb-fa-cup-rule-breach-20251010

    Just two months ago Arsenal received a suspended fine for not providing the full required away allocation to Manchester United.






    The Professional Game Board (PGB) has sanctioned Arsenal FC for breaching the 2024-25 FA Cup Rule 192 in relation to its third round tie against Manchester United FC on Sunday 12 January 2025.

    2024-25 FA Cup Rule 192 

    The home club shall comply with any request for tickets made in accordance with Rule 191.

    2024-25 FA Cup Rule 191

    For competition matches other than a semi-final or the Final, the away club shall have the right to claim either:
    (a) up to 15% of the tickets issued (up to a maximum of 9,000); or
    (b) if the Ground is not all ticketed, up to 15% the Ground’s maximum capacity, provided that:
    191.1. the tickets are for admission to a fully segregated area; and
    191.2. the request for the tickets is made within four days of the relevant draw.

    It was alleged that Arsenal FC had breached the 2024-25 FA Cup Rule 192, and the matter was referred to the PGB for consideration.

    The PGB concluded that Arsenal FC had failed to comply with the 2024-25 FA Cup Rule 192 and imposed a suspended £500,000 fine. 

    The fine is suspended pending Arsenal FC’s confirmation that it is able to comply with this requirement for the 2025-26 FA Cup third round and continued compliance for any further rounds of this season’s competition.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,067
    edited 3:06PM
    When was the last time we hosted a large(ish) club at home in the FA Cup? Norwich City in January 2022? They just had the Jimmy Seed as usual, there was no hint of needing to give them anymore. 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,979
    0-10 and thats only to half time
    I hope our big screen/ scoreboard is up to the job 😳
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,336
    0-10 and thats only to half time
    I hope our big screen/ scoreboard is up to the job 😳
    It'll go back to 0 after 9, like the mileage numbers on old cars when they go past 999,999...
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,736
    Dazzler21 said:
    Given we've been smashed in the Championship lately, I am surprised how excited people are to see us play against one of the best teams in the world (even if that is less true than previous years). I can't see this being close especially with the state of our squad. 
    Zero chance Chelsea field a side they'd be putting out in the champions league 10 days later.
    That being said, their b team or U21s will be more than strong enough for our current defensive lineup.

    If the clubs agree a sensible ticket price i.e top price £20 then a good crowd should result
    Charlton's chances of being in the hat for the 4th round draw not helped by the extra time and penalties/no replay.  Our 2nd string another step down from the quality on which Enzo Maresca can draw.

    Love to see us give them a good game.

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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,896
    https://www.thefa.com/news/2025/oct/10/arsenal-sanctioned-by-pgb-fa-cup-rule-breach-20251010

    Just two months ago Arsenal received a suspended fine for not providing the full required away allocation to Manchester United.






    The Professional Game Board (PGB) has sanctioned Arsenal FC for breaching the 2024-25 FA Cup Rule 192 in relation to its third round tie against Manchester United FC on Sunday 12 January 2025.

    2024-25 FA Cup Rule 192 

    The home club shall comply with any request for tickets made in accordance with Rule 191.

    2024-25 FA Cup Rule 191

    For competition matches other than a semi-final or the Final, the away club shall have the right to claim either:
    (a) up to 15% of the tickets issued (up to a maximum of 9,000); or
    (b) if the Ground is not all ticketed, up to 15% the Ground’s maximum capacity, provided that:
    191.1. the tickets are for admission to a fully segregated area; and
    191.2. the request for the tickets is made within four days of the relevant draw.

    It was alleged that Arsenal FC had breached the 2024-25 FA Cup Rule 192, and the matter was referred to the PGB for consideration.

    The PGB concluded that Arsenal FC had failed to comply with the 2024-25 FA Cup Rule 192 and imposed a suspended £500,000 fine. 

    The fine is suspended pending Arsenal FC’s confirmation that it is able to comply with this requirement for the 2025-26 FA Cup third round and continued compliance for any further rounds of this season’s competition.
    I think 191.1 is the overriding factor.
  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,395
    Will season ticket holders get a chance to our normal seats?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,191
    Will season ticket holders get a chance to our normal seats?
    They always have - so it's yes.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,930
    if (when) we're announced as a TV game - price it sensibly and fill the ground, will look great on live TV

    any 'lost' ticket revenue would be made up by the TV income anyway
  • jose
    jose Posts: 821
    edited 4:04PM
    I think if I were a Charlton player I would be looking forward to this game and hope to be picked. To that end I wouldn't be fannying around for the next month.
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,628
    Will season ticket holders get a chance to our normal seats?
    They have for the last 100 years. But, I see what your doing, it’s going to be Charltons very own STUWALL  thread….. 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,979
    Club taking the piss ticket wise $$, is the only way this doesn't sell out. 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,341
    shine166 said:
    Club taking the piss ticket wise $$, is the only way this doesn't sell out. 
    This will be a test of their true colours / brain power/ reading of the room