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Where the England squad come from

killerandflashkillerandflash
in Other Football and Sports
Doing some quick sums on where the current England squad actually grew up, I was surprised at how Northern it is.

6 from Yorkshire alone, 6 from the North West and 2 from the North East. Add to this Cahill who grew up in Dronfield, which is between Chesterfield and Sheffield, that makes 15 out of the 23 from the North!

Indeed only 3 members from the squad come from London (this includes Sterling), 2 from the home counties (Young and Deli) while none come from the Midlands! With the wealth of the London clubs, and the large potential pool of talent, that's a surprisingly low number and perhaps an indictment at the way they bring players through.
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    JessieJessie
    I was just glad it wasn't just me that couldn't fully understand what Pickford was saying in interviews!
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    cafcdave123cafcdave123
    killerandflash said:

    Doing some quick sums on where the current England squad actually grew up, I was surprised at how Northern it is.

    6 from Yorkshire alone, 6 from the North West and 2 from the North East. Add to this Cahill who grew up in Dronfield, which is between Chesterfield and Sheffield, that makes 15 out of the 23 from the North!

    Indeed only 3 members from the squad come from London (this includes Sterling), 2 from the home counties (Young and Deli) while none come from the Midlands! With the wealth of the London clubs, and the large potential pool of talent, that's a surprisingly low number and perhaps an indictment at the way they bring players through.

    This includes the Jamaican lad, Sterling?
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    johnnybev1987johnnybev1987
    paulie8290 said:

    johnnybev1987 said:

    Did anyone else think this was @paulie8290 who started the thread?

    No because when there are 0 comments(like before you posted) it says who started the thread
    Please dont flag me :wink:

    Stop biting its too easy
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    Red_in_SE8Red_in_SE8
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/02/why-are-so-many-of-england-world-cup-footballers-from-yorkshire
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    killerandflashkillerandflash
    cafcdave123 said:

    killerandflash said:

    Doing some quick sums on where the current England squad actually grew up, I was surprised at how Northern it is.

    6 from Yorkshire alone, 6 from the North West and 2 from the North East. Add to this Cahill who grew up in Dronfield, which is between Chesterfield and Sheffield, that makes 15 out of the 23 from the North!

    Indeed only 3 members from the squad come from London (this includes Sterling), 2 from the home counties (Young and Deli) while none come from the Midlands! With the wealth of the London clubs, and the large potential pool of talent, that's a surprisingly low number and perhaps an indictment at the way they bring players through.

    This includes the Jamaican lad, Sterling?
    I said "grew up". He came over at the age of 5 and lived in London, and came through the QPR academy. His football upbringing was in London
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    killerandflashkillerandflash
    Red_in_SE8 said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/02/why-are-so-many-of-england-world-cup-footballers-from-yorkshire

    It is quite interesting actually. Other than Young (a converted winger) all our defenders are Northern, plus 2 of our defensive midfielders. By contrast in previous years we had the likes of Ferdinand, Campbell, Adams, Southgate, Terry, Ledley King etc all from London and the South.

    Maybe Gomez will break the trend.
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    RivieraRiviera
    smudge7946 said:

    Very few England players come from middle class backgrounds.

    Eric Dier is one, although he has an ancestry in sports.

    Do any footballers come from middle class backgrounds?
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    muppetmanmuppetman
    Riviera said:

    smudge7946 said:

    Very few England players come from middle class backgrounds.

    Eric Dier is one, although he has an ancestry in sports.

    Do any footballers come from middle class backgrounds?
    Lampard and Le Saux?
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    SuedeAdidasSuedeAdidas
    Joey Barton?
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    LeuthLeuth
    Gianfranco Zola was from upper-class gentry I think. Maybe Vialli too
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    killerandflashkillerandflash
    smudge7946 said:

    Very few England players come from middle class backgrounds.

    Eric Dier is one, although he has an ancestry in sports.

    I'm not sure London and the South East can be considered to be entirely middle class!
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    killerandflashkillerandflash
    Riviera said:

    smudge7946 said:

    Very few England players come from middle class backgrounds.

    Eric Dier is one, although he has an ancestry in sports.

    Do any footballers come from middle class backgrounds?
    Southgate?

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    A-R-T-H-U-RA-R-T-H-U-R
    Riviera said:

    smudge7946 said:

    Very few England players come from middle class backgrounds.

    Eric Dier is one, although he has an ancestry in sports.

    Do any footballers come from middle class backgrounds?
    Er...Gareth Southgate couldn't be more middle class.
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    A-R-T-H-U-RA-R-T-H-U-R
    edited July 2018
    Frank Lampard and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain both attended private schools.

    Scott Parker from the very middle-class London state school Haberdashers’ Aske’s Hatcham College.

    Quantity surveyor’s son James Milner.

    To name but five.
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    LeuthLeuth
    Ah, but one must distinguish between old money and new money, darling
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    killerandflashkillerandflash
    SheffieldRed said:

    A-R-T-H-U-R said:

    Frank Lampard and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain both attended private schools.

    Scott Parker from the very middle-class London state school Haberdashers’ Aske’s Hatcham College.

    Quantity surveyor’s son James Milner.

    To name but five.

    5?
    James Milner and Boring James Milner
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    rinarina
    edited July 2018
    paulie8290 said:

    johnnybev1987 said:

    Did anyone else think this was @paulie8290 who started the thread?

    No because when there are 0 comments(like before you posted) it says who started the thread
    and that was the only way you could tell that you didn't start it?
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    The_PresidentThe_President
    isnt this a possible indication of the qualities required to become a very good international team as opposed to England who mostly seem a load of thickos - for example, if you interview the German squad, they all speak perfect English and 'appear' to be highly/somewhat educated ?
    Just an observation.
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    CroydonCroydon
    The_President said:

    isnt this a possible indication of the qualities required to become a very good international team as opposed to England who mostly seem a load of thickos - for example, if you interview the German squad, they all speak perfect English and 'appear' to be highly/somewhat educated ?
    Just an observation.

    This the Germany who are already out of the tournament?
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    Cordoban AddickCordoban Addick
    Wasn't there a book called Why do England lose or something similar and in it one of the reasons given was that football in the UK was massively class based which meant we missed out on potential good players (law of averages) even if it was one good international player every generation it was considered one of the fine margins for losing at the highest level.

    I will see if I can get find it, although our Library is being refurbished.
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    A-R-T-H-U-RA-R-T-H-U-R
    Cordoban Addick said:

    Wasn't there a book called Why do England lose or something similar and in it one of the reasons given was that football in the UK was massively class based which meant we missed out on potential good players (law of averages) even if it was one good international player every generation it was considered one of the fine margins for losing at the highest level.

    I will see if I can get find it, although our Library is being refurbished.

    How posh are you?
    Shooters will be getting house envy! ;-)
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    Addick in SW16Addick in SW16
    Cordoban Addick said:

    Wasn't there a book called Why do England lose or something similar and in it one of the reasons given was that football in the UK was massively class based which meant we missed out on potential good players (law of averages) even if it was one good international player every generation it was considered one of the fine margins for losing at the highest level.

    I will see if I can get find it, although our Library is being refurbished.

    That's interesting. Would probably take a look at that.
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