Out of nowhere an associate who doesn’t know about my one way love affair with SCP asked me if he was a dick . After I made him wash his mouth out with soap and water and say the Lord Curbs prayer 3 times I said no he’s a gentlemen . He said a fella he works with has a nephew or son or someone who plays at Southend and SCP doesn’t really interact with the players much and is a bit distant . I immediately called the character in question a dick and wasn’t having any of it .
Or maybe SCP is distant cos he knows he’s coming Back to The Valley .
Anyway what a load of shit , sorry you had to read it but I haven’t posted for a while .
Manager at the start of next season
15% SCP ...... 25% Lee Lee Lee Bowyer .... 5% Harry Kewell ..... 55% some dullard who will take us nowhere
Out of nowhere an associate who doesn’t know about my one way love affair with SCP asked me if he was a dick . After I made him wash his mouth out with soap and water and say the Lord Curbs prayer 3 times I said no he’s a gentlemen . He said a fella he works with has a nephew or son or someone who plays at Southend and SCP doesn’t really interact with the players much and is a bit distant . I immediately called the character in question a dick and wasn’t having any of it .
Or maybe SCP is distant cos he knows he’s coming Back to The Valley .
Anyway what a load of shit , sorry you had to read it but I haven’t posted for a while .
Manager at the start of next season
15% SCP ...... 25% Lee Lee Lee Bowyer .... 5% Harry Kewell ..... 55% some dullard who will take us nowhere
100% Roland Out
When SCP first came to Charlton he got to the end of the season and then changed virtually the whole playing squad. Maybe he is planning the same and doesnt want to get too close to any players before he brings in his own squad.
I would be extremely surprised if SCP leaves Southend after such a short time. Its just not in his character.
Quite a few have suggested Powell would not leave Southend, because of his contract with them, and the short time he has been there. I have to say, I disagree with that sentiment entirely, Powells no fool, it was plain for all to see just how much hurt he felt when sacked by Roland, becoming Charlton Manager/head Coach again would enable him to carry on with the unfinished business he had to leave. There really is no comparison between Southend and Charlton, and I say that with no disrespect to Southend. He is limited to what could be realistically achieved where he is for obvious reasons, where as at Charlton there is no limit to where it could take him if things went well, I will stick my neck on the line and say, if approached, and Powell likes what is offered, he will become the next Manager/Head Coach. Loyalty means nothing in Football, as Powell has found out, he will do whats best for him, and thats back at Charlton.
Out of nowhere an associate who doesn’t know about my one way love affair with SCP asked me if he was a dick . After I made him wash his mouth out with soap and water and say the Lord Curbs prayer 3 times I said no he’s a gentlemen . He said a fella he works with has a nephew or son or someone who plays at Southend and SCP doesn’t really interact with the players much and is a bit distant . I immediately called the character in question a dick and wasn’t having any of it .
Or maybe SCP is distant cos he knows he’s coming Back to The Valley .
Anyway what a load of shit , sorry you had to read it but I haven’t posted for a while .
Manager at the start of next season
15% SCP ...... 25% Lee Lee Lee Bowyer .... 5% Harry Kewell ..... 55% some dullard who will take us nowhere
100% Roland Out
When SCP first came to Charlton he got to the end of the season and then changed virtually the whole playing squad. Maybe he is planning the same and doesnt want to get too close to any players before he brings in his own squad.
I would be extremely surprised if SCP leaves Southend after such a short time. Its just not in his character.
Quite a few have suggested Powell would not leave Southend, because of his contract with them, and the short time he has been there. I have to say, I disagree with that sentiment entirely, Powells no fool, it was plain for all to see just how much hurt he felt when sacked by Roland, becoming Charlton Manager/head Coach again would enable him to carry on with the unfinished business he had to leave. There really is no comparison between Southend and Charlton, and I say that with no disrespect to Southend. He is limited to what could be realistically achieved where he is for obvious reasons, where as at Charlton there is no limit to where it could take him if things went well, I will stick my neck on the line and say, if approached, and Powell likes what is offered, he will become the next Manager/Head Coach. Loyalty means nothing in Football, as Powell has found out, he will do whats best for him, and thats back at Charlton.
As Bowyer may find out too.
Sadly, I think it's a bridge to far for Bowyer, he did fantastic in the time he had charge, but Roland hired him, not fired him like he did Powell, I cant see new owners taking a chance on Bowyer, who has no experience running a club as a Manager, to much of a gamble I feel, to much at stake.
Appointing Bowyer wasn't a masterstroke by Roland - he was simply the cheap option for an owner who didn't care. That he did an excellent job is credit to him and JJ.
Out of nowhere an associate who doesn’t know about my one way love affair with SCP asked me if he was a dick . After I made him wash his mouth out with soap and water and say the Lord Curbs prayer 3 times I said no he’s a gentlemen . He said a fella he works with has a nephew or son or someone who plays at Southend and SCP doesn’t really interact with the players much and is a bit distant . I immediately called the character in question a dick and wasn’t having any of it .
Or maybe SCP is distant cos he knows he’s coming Back to The Valley .
Anyway what a load of shit , sorry you had to read it but I haven’t posted for a while .
Manager at the start of next season
15% SCP ...... 25% Lee Lee Lee Bowyer .... 5% Harry Kewell ..... 55% some dullard who will take us nowhere
100% Roland Out
Actually, he may well be a little distant from the players.....no bad thing if he is, just as long as he’s fair and acts like the gentleman that he is when he needs to be in contact. There are many an excellent manager who have been a bit distant from there squad...Clough, Ferguson and even Curbs, to name but three.
Out of nowhere an associate who doesn’t know about my one way love affair with SCP asked me if he was a dick . After I made him wash his mouth out with soap and water and say the Lord Curbs prayer 3 times I said no he’s a gentlemen . He said a fella he works with has a nephew or son or someone who plays at Southend and SCP doesn’t really interact with the players much and is a bit distant . I immediately called the character in question a dick and wasn’t having any of it .
Or maybe SCP is distant cos he knows he’s coming Back to The Valley .
Anyway what a load of shit , sorry you had to read it but I haven’t posted for a while .
Manager at the start of next season
15% SCP ...... 25% Lee Lee Lee Bowyer .... 5% Harry Kewell ..... 55% some dullard who will take us nowhere
100% Roland Out
When SCP first came to Charlton he got to the end of the season and then changed virtually the whole playing squad. Maybe he is planning the same and doesnt want to get too close to any players before he brings in his own squad.
I would be extremely surprised if SCP leaves Southend after such a short time. Its just not in his character.
Quite a few have suggested Powell would not leave Southend, because of his contract with them, and the short time he has been there. I have to say, I disagree with that sentiment entirely, Powells no fool, it was plain for all to see just how much hurt he felt when sacked by Roland, becoming Charlton Manager/head Coach again would enable him to carry on with the unfinished business he had to leave. There really is no comparison between Southend and Charlton, and I say that with no disrespect to Southend. He is limited to what could be realistically achieved where he is for obvious reasons, where as at Charlton there is no limit to where it could take him if things went well, I will stick my neck on the line and say, if approached, and Powell likes what is offered, he will become the next Manager/Head Coach. Loyalty means nothing in Football, as Powell has found out, he will do whats best for him, and thats back at Charlton.
As Bowyer may find out too.
Sadly, I think it's a bridge to far for Bowyer, he did fantastic in the time he had charge, but Roland hired him, not fired him like he did Powell, I cant see new owners taking a chance on Bowyer, who has no experience running a club as a Manager, to much of a gamble I feel, to much at stake.
The new owners know the results and turnaround that Lee Bowyer achieved in his short caretaker role and are sensible enough to formally interview him for the post. They are also it seems sensible enough to hold a proper interview process which one assumes requires applications for the post. They also know that Chris Powell is a good fit and has a real affinity with the club. All of that indicates to me that the new people are intent on doing things the correct way.
Out of nowhere an associate who doesn’t know about my one way love affair with SCP asked me if he was a dick . After I made him wash his mouth out with soap and water and say the Lord Curbs prayer 3 times I said no he’s a gentlemen . He said a fella he works with has a nephew or son or someone who plays at Southend and SCP doesn’t really interact with the players much and is a bit distant . I immediately called the character in question a dick and wasn’t having any of it .
Or maybe SCP is distant cos he knows he’s coming Back to The Valley .
Anyway what a load of shit , sorry you had to read it but I haven’t posted for a while .
Manager at the start of next season
15% SCP ...... 25% Lee Lee Lee Bowyer .... 5% Harry Kewell ..... 55% some dullard who will take us nowhere
100% Roland Out
When SCP first came to Charlton he got to the end of the season and then changed virtually the whole playing squad. Maybe he is planning the same and doesnt want to get too close to any players before he brings in his own squad.
I would be extremely surprised if SCP leaves Southend after such a short time. Its just not in his character.
Quite a few have suggested Powell would not leave Southend, because of his contract with them, and the short time he has been there. I have to say, I disagree with that sentiment entirely, Powells no fool, it was plain for all to see just how much hurt he felt when sacked by Roland, becoming Charlton Manager/head Coach again would enable him to carry on with the unfinished business he had to leave. There really is no comparison between Southend and Charlton, and I say that with no disrespect to Southend. He is limited to what could be realistically achieved where he is for obvious reasons, where as at Charlton there is no limit to where it could take him if things went well, I will stick my neck on the line and say, if approached, and Powell likes what is offered, he will become the next Manager/Head Coach. Loyalty means nothing in Football, as Powell has found out, he will do whats best for him, and thats back at Charlton.
As Bowyer may find out too.
Sadly, I think it's a bridge to far for Bowyer, he did fantastic in the time he had charge, but Roland hired him, not fired him like he did Powell, I cant see new owners taking a chance on Bowyer, who has no experience running a club as a Manager, to much of a gamble I feel, to much at stake.
The new owners know the results and turnaround that Lee Bowyer achieved in his short caretaker role and are sensible enough to formally interview him for the post. They are also it seems sensible enough to hold a proper interview process which one assumes requires applications for the post. They also know that Chris Powell is a good fit and has a real affinity with the club. All of that indicates to me that the new people are intent on doing things the correct way.
That's all you can ask for really. Whether its Chris Powell, Bowyer, or someone else entirely; so be it. If this is the way they are going about things, I'm a hell of a lot more confident we'll get the right man in than I ever was under old ball bag.
Reams ???? The guy who gets free tickets off of The Cloob for the lounge etc and was their mouth piece ??? but let's take what he says as kosher ---- nahhhhh I don't think so
If Ashley is part of a proposed group then that surely won't be happening. Newcastle aren't even close to being taken over, and the latest is that Ashley has upped his asking price yet again.
So if RD has a buyer close to purchasing us in the next 1-2 weeks he's surely going to take that rather than fund us throughout the summer (and for however many more months), on the off chance Newcastle gets sold soon.
Reams ???? The guy who gets free tickets off of The Cloob for the lounge etc and was their mouth piece ??? but let's take what he says as kosher ---- nahhhhh I don't think so
If Ashley is part of a proposed group then that surely won't be happening. Newcastle aren't even close to being taken over, and the latest is that Ashley has upped his asking price yet again.
So if RD has a buyer close to purchasing us in the next 1-2 weeks he's surely going to take that rather than fund us throughout the summer (and for however many more months), on the off chance Newcastle gets sold soon.
Reams ???? The guy who gets free tickets off of The Cloob for the lounge etc and was their mouth piece ??? but let's take what he says as kosher ---- nahhhhh I don't think so
If Ashley is part of a proposed group then that surely won't be happening. Newcastle aren't even close to being taken over, and the latest is that Ashley has upped his asking price yet again.
So if RD has a buyer close to purchasing us in the next 1-2 weeks he's surely going to take that rather than fund us throughout the summer (and for however many more months), on the off chance Newcastle gets sold soon.
Appointing Bowyer wasn't a masterstroke by Roland - he was simply the cheap option for an owner who didn't care. That he did an excellent job is credit to him and JJ.
I know we have a low acceptance level us Charlton fans, but i would suggest that 6 'good' games allied with 6 shit ones is more average than 'excellent' ?
Comprehensively beaten in both games over 2 legs by a team built mostly from non-league. And riding our luck in at least 2 of the wins (Blackburn and Pompey). Nah, more average than excellent.
Bowyer did an excellent job in the circumstances. he could have had 10 shit games and it wouldn't change my view - he got us into the play-offs which is a borderline miracle with what he had to contend with in the back room, the position and squad confidence level he inherited and the run in we had. Nothing average about it.
Beating 3 of the top 4 is a bit better than average.
offset by losing to Wimbledon and Rochdale
But he had to try with gobshite players.
I would love to see what he could achieve with his own players
Give you that, but, if you listen to Louis Mendez and his analogy of the difference when interveiweing Gobshite and Lee, with Scousegit saying 'he's upset the third metarsal, and sustaned impact peripheral muscle damage' to Lees 'he's hurt his foot', this worries me about the motivational ability from Lee. Now, we all know what Lee's like, and he doesnt come over as the brightest spark, and i doubt his motivational skills to get 105 per cent from the team, which is what all 'excellent' managers seem to be able to do. I woldnt mind him being manager - i think we could do better - but i think we are too hung up on getting a 'Charlton man'.
Beating 3 of the top 4 is a bit better than average.
offset by losing to Wimbledon and Rochdale
But he had to try with gobshite players.
I would love to see what he could achieve with his own players
Give you that, but, if you listen to Louis Mendez and his analogy of the difference when interveiweing Gobshite and Lee, with Scousegit saying 'he's upset the third metarsal, and sustaned impact peripheral muscle damage' to Lees 'he's hurt his foot', this worries me about the motivational ability from Lee. Now, we all know what Lee's like, and he doesnt come over as the brightest spark, and i doubt his motivational skills to get 105 per cent from the team, which is what all 'excellent' managers seem to be able to do. I woldnt mind him being manager - i think we could do better - but i think we are too hung up on getting a 'Charlton man'.
I think it was pretty clear that Lee Bowyer got more/ has more motivational abilty, by a country mile than any previous manager since Chris Powell.
I'm astounded anyone could question the motivation ability of a man that turned a team of light weights into a team that won the vast majority of their battles. He absolutely transformed most of the players, who were barely recognisable, from earlier in the season.
Beating 3 of the top 4 is a bit better than average.
offset by losing to Wimbledon and Rochdale
But he had to try with gobshite players.
I would love to see what he could achieve with his own players
Give you that, but, if you listen to Louis Mendez and his analogy of the difference when interveiweing Gobshite and Lee, with Scousegit saying 'he's upset the third metarsal, and sustaned impact peripheral muscle damage' to Lees 'he's hurt his foot', this worries me about the motivational ability from Lee. Now, we all know what Lee's like, and he doesnt come over as the brightest spark, and i doubt his motivational skills to get 105 per cent from the team, which is what all 'excellent' managers seem to be able to do. I woldnt mind him being manager - i think we could do better - but i think we are too hung up on getting a 'Charlton man'.
I think it was pretty clear that Lee Bowyer got more from the players by a country mile than any previous manager since Chris Powell.
I dont think that was hard after Gobbo and everyone else we've had - do you?
Beating 3 of the top 4 is a bit better than average.
offset by losing to Wimbledon and Rochdale
But he had to try with gobshite players.
I would love to see what he could achieve with his own players
Give you that, but, if you listen to Louis Mendez and his analogy of the difference when interveiweing Gobshite and Lee, with Scousegit saying 'he's upset the third metarsal, and sustaned impact peripheral muscle damage' to Lees 'he's hurt his foot', this worries me about the motivational ability from Lee. Now, we all know what Lee's like, and he doesnt come over as the brightest spark, and i doubt his motivational skills to get 105 per cent from the team, which is what all 'excellent' managers seem to be able to do. I woldnt mind him being manager - i think we could do better - but i think we are too hung up on getting a 'Charlton man'.
I think it was pretty clear that Lee Bowyer got more/ has more motivational abilty, by a country mile than any previous manager since Chris Powell.
I'm astounded anyone could question the motivation ability of a man that turned a team of light weights into a team that won the vast majority of their battles. He absolutely transformed most of the players, who were barely recognisable, from earlier in the season.
I dont recall 6 out of 12 being the vast majority. I spoke to Patrick Bauer shortly after the Pompey game, and asked him if there was any major difference, and his reply was 'no real difference, aside from playing 2 up front , which seemed to release eveyone into playing a system they could recognise and fit into' - it wasnt rocket science.
Beating 3 of the top 4 is a bit better than average.
offset by losing to Wimbledon and Rochdale
But he had to try with gobshite players.
I would love to see what he could achieve with his own players
Give you that, but, if you listen to Louis Mendez and his analogy of the difference when interveiweing Gobshite and Lee, with Scousegit saying 'he's upset the third metarsal, and sustaned impact peripheral muscle damage' to Lees 'he's hurt his foot', this worries me about the motivational ability from Lee. Now, we all know what Lee's like, and he doesnt come over as the brightest spark, and i doubt his motivational skills to get 105 per cent from the team, which is what all 'excellent' managers seem to be able to do. I woldnt mind him being manager - i think we could do better - but i think we are too hung up on getting a 'Charlton man'.
I think it was pretty clear that Lee Bowyer got more from the players by a country mile than any previous manager since Chris Powell.
I dont think that was hard after Gobbo and everyone else we've had - do you?
Yes, I do think it was hard, extremely hard. No one else managed it, no one else even got close. Bowyer's motivation skills since he took over were sublime. Most fans had written off our chances of making the play offs.
Beating 3 of the top 4 is a bit better than average.
offset by losing to Wimbledon and Rochdale
But he had to try with gobshite players.
I would love to see what he could achieve with his own players
Give you that, but, if you listen to Louis Mendez and his analogy of the difference when interveiweing Gobshite and Lee, with Scousegit saying 'he's upset the third metarsal, and sustaned impact peripheral muscle damage' to Lees 'he's hurt his foot', this worries me about the motivational ability from Lee. Now, we all know what Lee's like, and he doesnt come over as the brightest spark, and i doubt his motivational skills to get 105 per cent from the team, which is what all 'excellent' managers seem to be able to do. I woldnt mind him being manager - i think we could do better - but i think we are too hung up on getting a 'Charlton man'.
I think it was pretty clear that Lee Bowyer got more from the players by a country mile than any previous manager since Chris Powell.
Bowyer did well. He was better than average and in the end not quite excellent.
When he took over the squad were demoralised and losing. He changed the formation and got some good games out of previously under-performing players.
In the end a Shewsbury side who finished 16 points ahead of us were, surprise, surprise, better than us. If we'd had Fosu fit it might have been closer but we had to rely on Kaikia and Mavididi, players he didn't sign.
Remember when Lee took over we weren't even looking like making the play-offs.
He won 6, drew 1 and lost 3 of his ten league games. 19 points from a possible 30, just under the two points a game that would have meant promotion over a season and in one of those, Rochdale, we had nothing to play for.
He also lifted the crowd, didn't talk bollocks non-stop (although I thought his "we were the better team" statement in the play-offs was incorrect and only inspired Shrewsbury.
Comprehensively beaten in both games over 2 legs by a team built mostly from non-league. And riding our luck in at least 2 of the wins (Blackburn and Pompey). Nah, more average than excellent.
Riding our luck at Pompey ? You don't half chat rubbish. We were outstanding and it was a great win.
We played Plymouth off the park, who had previously lost about 1 in 20 (or something like that). We convincingly beat Rotherham who were also on a great run of form. We beat Blackburn, who had lost something like 1 in the previous 30.
We have in the main, been outstanding under Lee Bowyer and I saw all but one of the games.
Whether Bowyer gets/should get the managers job is debateable, but please don't tell the fans that were at the games, that Bowyer wasn't great at motivating those players, because he so utterly and undeniably was.
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There are many an excellent manager who have been a bit distant from there squad...Clough, Ferguson and even Curbs, to name but three.
Fluent Romany doesn’t count
I would love to see what he could achieve with his own players
Nah, more average than excellent.
I woldnt mind him being manager - i think we could do better - but i think we are too hung up on getting a 'Charlton man'.
I'm astounded anyone could question the motivation ability of a man that turned a team of light weights into a team that won the vast majority of their battles. He absolutely transformed most of the players, who were barely recognisable, from earlier in the season.
I spoke to Patrick Bauer shortly after the Pompey game, and asked him if there was any major difference, and his reply was 'no real difference, aside from playing 2 up front , which seemed to release eveyone into playing a system they could recognise and fit into' - it wasnt rocket science.
No one else managed it, no one else even got close.
Bowyer's motivation skills since he took over were sublime.
Most fans had written off our chances of making the play offs.
When he took over the squad were demoralised and losing. He changed the formation and got some good games out of previously under-performing players.
In the end a Shewsbury side who finished 16 points ahead of us were, surprise, surprise, better than us. If we'd had Fosu fit it might have been closer but we had to rely on Kaikia and Mavididi, players he didn't sign.
Remember when Lee took over we weren't even looking like making the play-offs.
He won 6, drew 1 and lost 3 of his ten league games. 19 points from a possible 30, just under the two points a game that would have meant promotion over a season and in one of those, Rochdale, we had nothing to play for.
He also lifted the crowd, didn't talk bollocks non-stop (although I thought his "we were the better team" statement in the play-offs was incorrect and only inspired Shrewsbury.
B+
Think about it.
Time for him to go i reckon.
You don't half chat rubbish.
We were outstanding and it was a great win.
We played Plymouth off the park, who had previously lost about 1 in 20 (or something like that).
We convincingly beat Rotherham who were also on a great run of form.
We beat Blackburn, who had lost something like 1 in the previous 30.
We have in the main, been outstanding under Lee Bowyer and I saw all but one of the games.
Whether Bowyer gets/should get the managers job is debateable, but please don't tell the fans that were at the games, that Bowyer wasn't great at motivating those players, because he so utterly and undeniably was.