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The EFL are a joke!

DiscoCAFCDiscoCAFC
in Other Football and Sports
https://www.efl.com/news/2018/april/efl-statement-accrington-stanley/?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

Not only they choose to not improve the standard of refereeing, the ownership situation or any other important matters but they choose to prioritise stupid stuff like this.

EFL’s had the cheek to mention ‘EFL Regulation 61.6 states bonuses have to be written into players' contracts and must be declared before the season starts’ So what if the Accrington Stanley chairman buys the players burgers whether it is out of the contract or not? It’s a treat, if I’m in a job and my manager buys me a meal once a week out of goodness do I expect it to be part of my contract if my manager decides not to buy a meal..of course not!

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    SDAddickSDAddick
    edited April 2018
    DiscoCAFC said:

    https://www.efl.com/news/2018/april/efl-statement-accrington-stanley/?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

    Not only they choose to not improve the standard of refereeing, the ownership situation or any other important matters but they choose to prioritise stupid stuff like this.

    EFL’s had the cheek to mention ‘EFL Regulation 61.6 states bonuses have to be written into players' contracts and must be declared before the season starts’ So what if the Accrington Stanley chairman buys the players burgers whether it is out of the contract or not? It’s a treat, if I’m in a job and my manager buys me a meal once a week out of goodness do I expect it to be part of my contract if my manager decides not to buy a meal..of course not!

    Who ate they etc and so on?

    Yeah this is obviously dumb. But I'm guessing it's something where they have to enforce this due to labor laws and also to avoid potential corruption. As in, you need bonuses stipulated in contracts to prevent an abuse of the system (let alone rewarding players for, say, throwing a game). I know here with stuff like that there's usually a minimum of like $20 or more, don't know if that's the case in this situation. That would certainly be sensible, and may or may not be something within the EFL's control. But if you're drawing a line at McDonald's, where does that line end? What if the club offers you milk in your tea even though it isn't strictly a dietary necessity.

    That said they obviously could have said that in the statement, which I kind of skimmed but didn't see. And yes there are clearly bigger problems.
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    ManicmaniaManicmania
    They are a bunch of jokers - all they had to do was actually read the Accrington chairman's tweet properly - he SOMETIMES buys them a Mcdonalds - it's literally the second word of the tweet - how can it be classed as a win bonus unless he (says he) always does it?

    The "investigation" should have taken 3 minutes and a modicum of common sense to sort out... Oh right yeah, its the FL my mistake.
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    SDAddickSDAddick
    edited April 2018
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    eaststandmikeeaststandmike
    But once again if the chairman had not been gobbing off on social media he would not have been found out.

    Why do people want to share everything they do with the world.
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    TellyTubbyTellyTubby
    Agree its stupid but hmrc will be interested too.

    Its the way of the world.
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    Covered EndCovered End
    http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/81469/football-league-crack-down-on-dodgy-owners-at-last#latest
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    IAIA
    Is it connected to the rule that says wages must not exceed a certain percentage of revenues?
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    T_C_ET_C_E
    eaststandmike said:

    But once again if the chairman had not been gobbing off on social media he would not have been found out.

    Why do people want to share everything they do with the world.

    You alright Hun?
    Text me. xx
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    StigStig
    The real question is, why on earth would anyone by a professional sportsman a McDonalds?
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    SDAddickSDAddick
    Stig said:

    The real question is, why on earth would anyone by a professional sportsman a McDonalds?

    My first thought as well. I guess everyone gets a cheat day. But for a recovery meal after a match...?
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    IAIA
    T_C_E said:

    eaststandmike said:

    But once again if the chairman had not been gobbing off on social media he would not have been found out.

    Why do people want to share everything they do with the world.

    You alright Hun?
    Text me. xx
    Dm in ur inbox xx
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    willieduffwillieduff
    As usual the EFL have made themselves a laughing stock, you couldn't make it up if you tried.
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    ross1ross1
    Accrington Stanley owner Andy Holt can continue to buy players burgers but the League Two leaders have been "reminded of their responsibilities" around bonuses by the English Football League.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43669872
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    RedroboRedrobo
    Paid in cash so should have been subjected to both tax and NIC. Plus of course employers NIC.

    The owner can call it what he likes, but is a performance bonus.
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    cafcfancafcfan
    Redrobo said:

    Paid in cash so should have been subjected to both tax and NIC. Plus of course employers NIC.

    The owner can call it what he likes, but is a performance bonus.

    Normally yes. But the club is the employer; the chairman is just a private individual. He can buy his mates whatever he likes, surely?
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    golfaddickgolfaddick
    cafcfan said:

    Redrobo said:

    Paid in cash so should have been subjected to both tax and NIC. Plus of course employers NIC.

    The owner can call it what he likes, but is a performance bonus.

    Normally yes. But the club is the employer; the chairman is just a private individual. He can buy his mates whatever he likes, surely?
    I would assume so of it came out of his own pocket & not club funds.

    There used to be a maximum "spend" an employee could get without it being asessed for tax & ni
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    RedroboRedrobo
    cafcfan said:

    Redrobo said:

    Paid in cash so should have been subjected to both tax and NIC. Plus of course employers NIC.

    The owner can call it what he likes, but is a performance bonus.

    Normally yes. But the club is the employer; the chairman is just a private individual. He can buy his mates whatever he likes, surely?
    But a Chairman is not just a private individual; and he did not buy them anything. He gave them money based on the result.

    How much we don’t know from the article, but it is the principle. £3.50 meal deal ok? £100 and treat your wife and kids? Chelsea players £5000 for a night out?
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    NorthstandpieeaterNorthstandpieeater
    SDAddick said:

    Stig said:

    The real question is, why on earth would anyone by a professional sportsman a McDonalds?

    My first thought as well. I guess everyone gets a cheat day. But for a recovery meal after a match...?
    Title winning season ranieri took his players for pizza
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    SDAddickSDAddick
    edited April 2018
    Redrobo said:

    cafcfan said:

    Redrobo said:

    Paid in cash so should have been subjected to both tax and NIC. Plus of course employers NIC.

    The owner can call it what he likes, but is a performance bonus.

    Normally yes. But the club is the employer; the chairman is just a private individual. He can buy his mates whatever he likes, surely?
    But a Chairman is not just a private individual; and he did not buy them anything. He gave them money based on the result.

    How much we don’t know from the article, but it is the principle. £3.50 meal deal ok? £100 and treat your wife and kids? Chelsea players £5000 for a night out?
    I agree there has to be a limit and the principle of the matter does count here, but surely there should be some sort of minimum threshold? Like I work with the Government here and for some things there's a $20 maximum of what you can give to a Government employee as a "gift" (these are not laws that apply to Trump appointees). But that minimum means that when we have clients from the Government to our offices, we don't have to like tabulate if they have a soda, or some coffee from our coffee maker, and then they put cream in the coffee and that's technically an extra expense. I think you get the point.

    I guess an entire team's worth or McDonald's is more expensive than $20. I have to confess I wasn't thinking about it as an aggregate, but as an individual sum to each player. I don't know how it would be treated for legal or tax purposes.
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    stevexreevestevexreeve
    Chairman has already paid tax on the money he has earned (Supposedly). So he can give it as gifts to whoever he wants - unless he dies within 7 years in which case it will be subject to inheritance tax?
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    RedroboRedrobo
    stevexreeve said:

    Chairman has already paid tax on the money he has earned (Supposedly). So he can give it as gifts to whoever he wants - unless he dies within 7 years in which case it will be subject to inheritance tax?

    Nice argument. So if I pay a plumber to fix a leak, it is OK for him to not pay tax as I have already paid tax on it.
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    eaststandmikeeaststandmike
    T_C_E said:

    eaststandmike said:

    But once again if the chairman had not been gobbing off on social media he would not have been found out.

    Why do people want to share everything they do with the world.

    You alright Hun?
    Text me. xx
    I have text you twice but nothing.....you think more of those stupid dogs than you do of me!!
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    T_C_ET_C_E
    eaststandmike said:

    T_C_E said:

    eaststandmike said:

    But once again if the chairman had not been gobbing off on social media he would not have been found out.

    Why do people want to share everything they do with the world.

    You alright Hun?
    Text me. xx
    I have text you twice but nothing.....you think more of those stupid dogs than you do of me!!
    I think more of next doors dog than I think of you! Consider yourself dumped. ;)
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    DiscoCAFCDiscoCAFC
    eaststandmike said:

    But once again if the chairman had not been gobbing off on social media he would not have been found out.

    Why do people want to share everything they do with the world.

    To be fair to the Chairman, I don't think his own actions breach EFL's rules would cross his mind as it's so trivial.
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    CarterCarter
    Wankers, investigating this bullshit but incapable of dealing with rotten owners

    Sometimes I think the speed the world moves at these days and wonder how people find time to be proactive and stay on top of the constant shifting sands

    Then some twonk decides the order of the day is to investigate a bloke who made a remark about buying his players fast food after a win. And I realise the world is chock full of stuff I don't like
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