But a minimum of £250m will go on health care, £50m on education, £100m on deprived communities. Thats all good right?
I blame Labour, if less people had voted for them we wouldn't be in this position
This is turning into one of the worst elections and hung parliaments in history. I can't see either party resolving this, large parts of this country seem to be so far apart it's unreal.
presumably the extra 1 billion will be spent of public services in NI, and aren't per head government contributions highest in NI than in the rest of the UK already? Maybe this money will be put to good use and be invested wisely. I know sod all about NI... are there lots of social problems that need addressing?
But a minimum of £250m will go on health care, £50m on education, £100m on deprived communities. Thats all good right?
I blame Labour, if less people had voted for them we wouldn't be in this position
This is turning into one of the worst elections and hung parliaments in history. I can't see either party resolving this, large parts of this country seem to be so far apart it's unreal.
Current Annual NHS Spending
England: £2,057 per person
Northern Ireland: £2,125 per person
Scotland: £2,160 per person
Wales: £2,084 per person
So NI in second spot at the moment - not bad. Poor old England.
Assuming your £250 million is over the two year period - that equates to around £69 pp - pushing NI up to top spot at a cool £137 per person per year more than in England. Good eh? Fair eh?
Apologies for contaminating your imagination with facts.
So... a Queen's speech - made last week - outlining the proposed programme of a minority Government that had, at that point, not secured an agreement with the DUP.
Cutbacks, cutbacks, cutbacks, from the Tories, for years.....and now a MASSIVE cheque to buy itself power. New Bowler Hats all round, then.
Yuk. I hope this hodge-podge fails and we have the opportunity to elect a decent Green Socialist Government at the earliest opportunity (and do so).
The one thing that cheers me at present is thinking of the disappointment amongst those who wanted a free vote on hunting with dogs.
I'm really not that bothered about green socialists or the Tory blue rinse brigade - I just want a government of any colour that I can trust.
Where is this extra billion coming from? Given we are cutting services across the board?
Let's be fair, we do have more school funding than ever before (but there are more children than before, so that doesn't really work does it?) MORE MONEY THAN EVER BEFORE!!! (...)
We are also going to get 10,000 extra mental health staff (but we can't even fill the nursing posts we have!?) 10,000 MORE MENTAL HEALTH STAFF (...)
This Brexit will be great for the NHS too (£350mill, huh, that's pretty good, is that really going to happen? How did you work that out?) BREXIT MEANS BREXIT (...)
But a minimum of £250m will go on health care, £50m on education, £100m on deprived communities. Thats all good right?
I blame Labour, if less people had voted for them we wouldn't be in this position
This is turning into one of the worst elections and hung parliaments in history. I can't see either party resolving this, large parts of this country seem to be so far apart it's unreal.
Current Annual NHS Spending
England: £2,057 per person
Northern Ireland: £2,125 per person
Scotland: £2,160 per person
Wales: £2,084 per person
So NI in second spot at the moment - not bad. Poor old England.
Assuming your £250 million is over the two year period - that equates to around £69 pp - pushing NI up to top spot at a cool £137 per person per year more than in England. Good eh? Fair eh?
Apologies for contaminating your imagination with facts.
Maybe I didn't put enough winks in my original post.......
But a minimum of £250m will go on health care, £50m on education, £100m on deprived communities. Thats all good right?
I blame Labour, if less people had voted for them we wouldn't be in this position
This is turning into one of the worst elections and hung parliaments in history. I can't see either party resolving this, large parts of this country seem to be so far apart it's unreal.
Current Annual NHS Spending
England: £2,057 per person
Northern Ireland: £2,125 per person
Scotland: £2,160 per person
Wales: £2,084 per person
So NI in second spot at the moment - not bad. Poor old England.
Assuming your £250 million is over the two year period - that equates to around £69 pp - pushing NI up to top spot at a cool £137 per person per year more than in England. Good eh? Fair eh?
Apologies for contaminating your imagination with facts.
Maybe I didn't put enough winks in my original post.......
But a minimum of £250m will go on health care, £50m on education, £100m on deprived communities. Thats all good right?
I blame Labour, if less people had voted for them we wouldn't be in this position
This is turning into one of the worst elections and hung parliaments in history. I can't see either party resolving this, large parts of this country seem to be so far apart it's unreal.
You seem like a pleasant and reasonable man. The question you should be asking is What has happened to my party? - these aren't the One Nation Tories of yesteryear, even when they claim to be - these are something else, and you should demand to know exactly what
presumably the extra 1 billion will be spent of public services in NI, and aren't per head government contributions highest in NI than in the rest of the UK already? Maybe this money will be put to good use and be invested wisely. I know sod all about NI... are there lots of social problems that need addressing?
It has been suggested that the money go on infrastructure spending and the Health Service, the former might be needed more than to date, with Irish Government and EU funding likely to be less forthcoming. But I wouldn't hold out much hope it will be spent wisely...
The potential interest would be on which Ministerial responsibilities the DUP would want, assuming that the NI Executive can be reconstituted.
I'm not sure that it will be though, there is something deeply unattractive about NI politicians when they think they have the upper hand, magnanimity is not, dare I say, Arlene's strongest point. I could see Sinn Fein sitting back and watching, what they hope will be, the chaos that ensues, calculating that they would reap the rewards at the ballot box. After all, the worse things get around Brexit and Westminster, the better for them.
Perhaps the £1bn is for newly required infrastructure projects. £½m for each road crossing the border between Norther Ireland and Eire, to build urgently needed border points. Thanks Brexit!
But a minimum of £250m will go on health care, £50m on education, £100m on deprived communities. Thats all good right?
I blame Labour, if less people had voted for them we wouldn't be in this position
This is turning into one of the worst elections and hung parliaments in history. I can't see either party resolving this, large parts of this country seem to be so far apart it's unreal.
You seem like a pleasant and reasonable man. The question you should be asking is What has happened to my party? - these aren't the One Nation Tories of yesteryear, even when they claim to be - these are something else, and you should demand to know exactly what
As above, I clearly didn't put enough winks in my original post.
I voted Tory this time around, but I've never felt an allegiance to any party to vote for it regardless and don't class them as 'my party', i've voted both red and blue in my 26 years as a voter and just because I voted blue in 2017 i'm sure that won't be the same necessarily in every election during the next 26 years anymore than it was in the past.
I don't like the coalition any more than anyone else, but I'm not sure what people really expected. The moment the Greens, Lib Dems and SDP made it clear which pole they were pinning their flags to before the election then as soon as the results came in there was only one party left to whom they would turn. They were never going to attempt a government without a majority as above the other parties made it very clear how much against the Tory's they were.
We have, in my view, the worst politics and politicians in my lifetime on all sides, May, Corbyn, Farron - all of them aren't fit to lead a party in my view. Sturgeon isn't even an elected MP, the one credible candidate was Caroline Lucas but sadly the Greens don't have the ability as a Party to run the country.
If I had a choice to vote 'none of the above' I probably would have done, next to none of them are credible and as I've said many times, for me, voting came down to the least worse.
Sadly I don't see things getting any better anytime soon on the political landscape.
Ironically all those under 25s that wanted the Government to spend, spend, spend and voted for Labour to achieve it, have succeeded. Three weeks in and the new Government have, already, spent £1b.
Good to see the daily Mail still talking about Diana and Camilla. News that was of interest to middle aged white women from Tewkesbury from 20 years ago is still very much on their radar
Vince Cable was just on BBC London, now there's a politician that talks a lot of sense.
I can't believe I just read that.
Anyway back to bribes and to answer @cabbles question. It's how every party everywhere has operated for as long as I can remember. Just have a browse through the Labour manifesto spend-fest and ask yourself who benefited and who paid. Ask yourself why every single town promoted to a city during the Labour years had a bedrock of labour voters. Etc, etc, etc.
Now my own rant on Northern Ireland. It already is the recipient of much more money than any part of England. By far. (As is Scotland and Wales.) Just take a look at the numbers of public sector jobs per capita in Norn Iron compared with us in civilisation. In the main, it is the English taxpayer who coughs up for all this.
It is an outrage. As is Stormont. The size of that fucking building! To put it into context the total population of NI is pretty close to that of Essex. Essex has one city (Chelmsford, very recent) NI has five. What is the point, justification in NI having different government, different political parties, different rules, different legislation, the infamous renewable heat incentive, free water (yes, really!), different number plates, free bus and train passes from 60, (whereas it's 65 and rising and buses only in Essex. We pay for all this but can't even use our English passes in NI!)? They even still have fucking dog licences (£12.50, one year) for God's sake but it keeps some unnecessary bureaucrats in work.
They have (far) more police per capita - most of them on sick leave according to the last figures I could find. On any given day, on average, 423 police officers in the PSNI will be on sick leave. In one recent six-month period 766 police officers were subject to "unsatisfactory performance" because of their absences. That's equivalent to a quarter of the whole Essex Constabulary. Totally unbelievable. The A12 in Essex is a pot-holed disgrace and utterly inadequate and if I want to visit Kent I have to pay a toll. But at least the A5 from Ballygawley to Londonderry is scheduled to be upgraded at a cost of nearly a billion. (This will be money well spent - as you'll be able to overtake the tractors running down to the shops on their red diesel.) Then there's Eglinton fucking airport, or City of Derry airport as it likes to call itself. Owned by local councils, heavily lose-making (and therefore paid for by English taxpayers). Calling passenger throughput pathetic is being kind. Hey, it's got four, yes four flight arrivals today. Just shut the fucking place, Londonderry is only 60 miles from Belfast International anyway!
Northern Ireland should be treated like any other English County Council with the same laws. Stormont should be sold off and converted into a hotel or flats or something. If the bastards don't like it they should be told to pay for themselves or threatened with being ceded to the Republic, then we wouldn't have to worry about the border or what they cost us.
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I blame Labour, if less people had voted for them we wouldn't be in this position
This is turning into one of the worst elections and hung parliaments in history. I can't see either party resolving this, large parts of this country seem to be so far apart it's unreal.
England: £2,057 per person
Northern Ireland: £2,125 per person
Scotland: £2,160 per person
Wales: £2,084 per person
So NI in second spot at the moment - not bad. Poor old England.
Assuming your £250 million is over the two year period - that equates to around £69 pp - pushing NI up to top spot at a cool £137 per person per year more than in England. Good eh? Fair eh?
Apologies for contaminating your imagination with facts.
Let's be fair, we do have more school funding than ever before (but there are more children than before, so that doesn't really work does it?) MORE MONEY THAN EVER BEFORE!!! (...)
We are also going to get 10,000 extra mental health staff (but we can't even fill the nursing posts we have!?) 10,000 MORE MENTAL HEALTH STAFF (...)
This Brexit will be great for the NHS too (£350mill, huh, that's pretty good, is that really going to happen? How did you work that out?) BREXIT MEANS BREXIT (...)
Oh...
m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/dup-mp-gregory-campbell-wants-sale-of-ouija-boards-regulated-31094502.html
It really is like a plot from The Thick Of It.
:-)
Apologies.
The potential interest would be on which Ministerial responsibilities the DUP would want, assuming that the NI Executive can be reconstituted.
I'm not sure that it will be though, there is something deeply unattractive about NI politicians when they think they have the upper hand, magnanimity is not, dare I say, Arlene's strongest point. I could see Sinn Fein sitting back and watching, what they hope will be, the chaos that ensues, calculating that they would reap the rewards at the ballot box. After all, the worse things get around Brexit and Westminster, the better for them.
I voted Tory this time around, but I've never felt an allegiance to any party to vote for it regardless and don't class them as 'my party', i've voted both red and blue in my 26 years as a voter and just because I voted blue in 2017 i'm sure that won't be the same necessarily in every election during the next 26 years anymore than it was in the past.
I don't like the coalition any more than anyone else, but I'm not sure what people really expected. The moment the Greens, Lib Dems and SDP made it clear which pole they were pinning their flags to before the election then as soon as the results came in there was only one party left to whom they would turn. They were never going to attempt a government without a majority as above the other parties made it very clear how much against the Tory's they were.
We have, in my view, the worst politics and politicians in my lifetime on all sides, May, Corbyn, Farron - all of them aren't fit to lead a party in my view. Sturgeon isn't even an elected MP, the one credible candidate was Caroline Lucas but sadly the Greens don't have the ability as a Party to run the country.
If I had a choice to vote 'none of the above' I probably would have done, next to none of them are credible and as I've said many times, for me, voting came down to the least worse.
Sadly I don't see things getting any better anytime soon on the political landscape.
Versus in the blue corner...
;-)
doesnt the dup coaltion break the good friday agreement in any way?, as the government are meant to be impartial?
Hurrah!
Sinn Fein wouldn't get involved in British politics which makes the poster weirder.
Anyway back to bribes and to answer @cabbles question. It's how every party everywhere has operated for as long as I can remember. Just have a browse through the Labour
manifestospend-fest and ask yourself who benefited and who paid. Ask yourself why every single town promoted to a city during the Labour years had a bedrock of labour voters. Etc, etc, etc.Now my own rant on Northern Ireland. It already is the recipient of much more money than any part of England. By far. (As is Scotland and Wales.) Just take a look at the numbers of public sector jobs per capita in Norn Iron compared with us in civilisation. In the main, it is the English taxpayer who coughs up for all this.
It is an outrage. As is Stormont. The size of that fucking building! To put it into context the total population of NI is pretty close to that of Essex. Essex has one city (Chelmsford, very recent) NI has five. What is the point, justification in NI having different government, different political parties, different rules, different legislation, the infamous renewable heat incentive, free water (yes, really!), different number plates, free bus and train passes from 60, (whereas it's 65 and rising and buses only in Essex. We pay for all this but can't even use our English passes in NI!)? They even still have fucking dog licences (£12.50, one year) for God's sake but it keeps some unnecessary bureaucrats in work.
They have (far) more police per capita - most of them on sick leave according to the last figures I could find. On any given day, on average, 423 police officers in the PSNI will be on sick leave. In one recent six-month period 766 police officers were subject to "unsatisfactory performance" because of their absences. That's equivalent to a quarter of the whole Essex Constabulary. Totally unbelievable. The A12 in Essex is a pot-holed disgrace and utterly inadequate and if I want to visit Kent I have to pay a toll. But at least the A5 from Ballygawley to Londonderry is scheduled to be upgraded at a cost of nearly a billion. (This will be money well spent - as you'll be able to overtake the tractors running down to the shops on their red diesel.) Then there's Eglinton fucking airport, or City of Derry airport as it likes to call itself. Owned by local councils, heavily lose-making (and therefore paid for by English taxpayers). Calling passenger throughput pathetic is being kind. Hey, it's got four, yes four flight arrivals today. Just shut the fucking place, Londonderry is only 60 miles from Belfast International anyway!
Northern Ireland should be treated like any other English County Council with the same laws. Stormont should be sold off and converted into a hotel or flats or something. If the bastards don't like it they should be told to pay for themselves or threatened with being ceded to the Republic, then we wouldn't have to worry about the border or what they cost us.
Rant over.