Only listened to the first couple of minutes of that interview admittedly, but I wouldn’t want to be too harsh on the guy. The ref shouldn’t be saying that to him. And we must remember, teams like Accrington coming to a PL stadium against a club that should be in the top 30 in England, working as hard as they did (no matter how much we hate Roland, our team is worth a lot more than theirs)... I can totally understand why he’s so upset. Or heartbroken.
They did have a negative gameplay and I don’t blame them for that. They got more and more psyched up for it as the game went on and would’ve LOVED a point against us. I really don’t blame them for fighting for that and losing their heads when they lost it to that type of handball.
I haven’t seen the footage prior to the sending offs, but apparently the keeper has said he was “assaulted” by Taylor. Strong word to use.
Also mentioned that Accrington’s game plan was to keep the game as a draw until the 70th minute when they knew we would tire and they could go on to get the three points.
Find it bizarre that from there research of our season so far, they feel we are poor in the final 20 minutes of games. Considering how many last gasp goals we’ve scored this season and even looking at the Sunderland game and how we played for the entire second half. Seems like an odd game plan to me.
I noticed Bowyer's comment that he had created the shape with Morgan in the side but he had a late injury. I thought the shape of the midfield was wrong. Cullen is not a right sided player attacking player and he kept coming too deep. and Pratley not a left sided one.This left Williams isolated. We only got going when Reeves came on and he started attacking. Not sure how Bielik and Curran fit in the same team.
I noticed Bowyer's comment that he had created the shape with Morgan in the side but he had a late injury. I thought the shape of the midfield was wrong. Cullen is not a right sided player attacking player and he kept coming too deep. and Pratley not a left sided one.This left Williams isolated. We only got going when Reeves came on and he started attacking. Not sure how Bielik and Curran fit in the same team.
I was thinking it was a bit to samey for a home match.
Sykes kicking a prostrate Lyle Taylor. Kyle Andrews photos should help the appeal against the red card with luck. I also wonder what was captured by Charlton’s GoPro cameras around the goal.
The handball for the penalty was fair in my view. If you try to block a shot with your arms out it’s seen as ‘deliberate’, even if it’s ball to hand, rather than hand to ball. Straightforward really.
From ''That'' interview, he says Taylor sending off was our main threat gone... he needs to have a look at that Bielsa presser and what research actually means... it's not as if Grant has had a dry spell at ANY point this season! Yes Lyle is a big loss but it's a 28 (29 now?) goal PARTNERSHIP not a one man show.
I haven’t seen the footage prior to the sending offs, but apparently the keeper has said he was “assaulted” by Taylor. Strong word to use.
Also mentioned that Accrington’s game plan was to keep the game as a draw until the 70th minute when they knew we would tire and they could go on to get the three points.
Find it bizarre that from there research of our season so far, they feel we are poor in the final 20 minutes of games. Considering how many last gasp goals we’ve scored this season and even looking at the Sunderland game and how we played for the entire second half. Seems like an odd game plan to me.
Was sitting behind the goal. No way was he assaulted by Taylor. Taylor just stood in front of him and blocked him trying to get to the ball.
Also their info about us tiring in the last 20 mins is a season out of date.
I love winning these scrappy matches. Another string to the Bow (yer).
Are coaches usually on first name terms with the ref?
I wonder if the ref really said that. I suspect he’s more likely to have said he didn’t see it. If he genuinely didn’t think it was a penalty he would have over-ruled the Lino wouldn’t he?
Fantastic atmosphere at the final whistle, I think once our Current midfield have played more games together things will start to click. Great to see a Charlton team with so much commitment and togetherness. Well worth the day trip from the snowy shropshire hills.
In the sending off incident, watch their keeper again.
From the corner, Taylor makes a back for the keeper .... but straightaway you can hear the ref blow for a foul.
Taylor falls to the ground, with the keeper falling on top of him.
The game has been stopped before the keeper picks himself up, and as Taylor is getting up, the keeper steps back towards Taylor and pushes him to the ground.
Are coaches usually on first name terms with the ref?
I wonder if the ref really said that. I suspect he’s more likely to have said he didn’t see it. If he genuinely didn’t think it was a penalty he would have over-ruled the Lino wouldn’t he?
I thought that, there is no way a ref would say to assistant or coach whatever he is that he didnt think it was a pen.
If the support chants 'lino lino, you're a c**t' it may have been a good move, because he wanted to show he wasn't by awarding the penalty!
However from memory it was a pen for handball, and he remains a c**t for the Lyall sending off.
Was whatever Lyall is supposed to have done a straight red? I don't have a clue, I can only think he kicked out after four Accrington players bundled in on him following Bauers disallowed goal. I would've thought it is worth an appeal, perhaps it was nothing, or more deserving of a yellow, but to lose Lyall for three matches is a genuine blow, as he was a wonder to behold (yet again) in that second half.
If any particular season has a theme, a plot, a leitmotiv, then for this season so far, one theme is looking to be about penalties.
Indeed leitmotiv puts me in mind of symphonies, and for a lot of the game the symphony was pastoral with some diverting solo work, but ended like the 1812 Overture, thundering and crashing everywhere.
Solly had to white knight the c**t of a lino as the Accrington players charged him with murderous intent. The veneer of their previous good character shattered as Accrington went apeshit using every trick in the book, and wanted to keep it going after the final whistle which saw Naby having to protect our players one by one, especially Williams, whilst also trying to shake opponents hands. Nobody was leaving the stadium during all that roistering. It was great, because we bloody WON!
The game had a lot going for it actually. Accrington, well organised, good ball retention, maximising what they can do, always knowing where a team mate was, and a constant threat. Dillon made two great saves to keep us in the match, an excellent performance from him which will keep the Silverhammer at bay for now. I was also impressed with the constancy of the Accrington support, small in number but more sustained than Sunderland were last match.
What about Naby eh? Naby, our Naby. He has gradually moved from a ratio of 10% good to 90% crap, and now it is around 80/20 in favour of good. However long after the memory of results fade we will still recall the exquisite moment of Naby's short long throw. Tell me you didn't laugh?
Then the penalty itself. A delay, Accrington players in his face, game into the added time, a vital result rests on it. Whatever mark anybody might be thinking of giving to Grant, he definitely gets an extra point for that penalty. Indeed if it is ever justified in giving a man of the match for one single moment, then that pressure penalty today might shift it to Karlan. Anyway his pace freaked Accrington all afternoon, and his celebration was proper wild.
Tough game.
Purrington solid and he eventually got forward enough to deliver a decent cross. I thought Solly was also standard Solly, but his experience in games like today is priceless. Bauer solid and interested. Then Sarr, who is becoming hard to describe but is easy to like. I thought he was a bit of a colossus today, notwithstanding some of his long range passing. Next time though Naby, when you charge on, just shoot man...it would bring the house down if you scored.
Williams is stupidly good, and not in a stupid way, but in an how the hell have we managed to land this fella? Pray he stays fit, because he has instantly slotted in with very good performances from the off. Whenever Williams is taken out, is it just me, or does it always seem to include a spectacular cartwheel. Loved him at the end of the game too.
Pratley was OK and industrious, Belik I thought was pretty outstanding, but I wish he didn't have that worrying mistake in him which can emerge once a match. Great to see Cullen back, he will improve when settled. Taylor and Grant were completely threatening, and in the first half I believe they manufactured a couple of crosses, one low one high, which might have easily become goals. Did you see the rugby style face hand off from Lyall? Seriously, the way this bloke plays is worth the admission fee.
I imagine there has already been a lot of talk, replays and deconstruction as I have travelled home, and then written this, and Coleman is probably lashing out. Too effing bad.
I say to Lee Bowyer, only our manager since last St Patricks Day, he should glory in this victory, should coat his teeth with the chocolatey three points, then lick them off and relish them because it was a great win you deserved it, Coleman didn't.
Couple of mates spoke to Williams after the game in the lounge and mentioned his dancing around and celebrating, well when you have had players in your ear all game telling you they are going to break your leg, a last minute winner is quite sweet. One of their players was in crossbars after the game, I made it quite clear and loud what Williams had just said to him and the party of people he was with. Fuck off Acrrington you muggy bunch of c@@ts
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They did have a negative gameplay and I don’t blame them for that. They got more and more psyched up for it as the game went on and would’ve LOVED a point against us. I really don’t blame them for fighting for that and losing their heads when they lost it to that type of handball.
I haven’t seen the footage prior to the sending offs, but apparently the keeper has said he was “assaulted” by Taylor. Strong word to use.
Also mentioned that Accrington’s game plan was to keep the game as a draw until the 70th minute when they knew we would tire and they could go on to get the three points.
Find it bizarre that from there research of our season so far, they feel we are poor in the final 20 minutes of games. Considering how many last gasp goals we’ve scored this season and even looking at the Sunderland game and how we played for the entire second half. Seems like an odd game plan to me.
Also looks like AS have not changed much:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/english-footballs-league-shame-dirtiest-11987392.amp
Not sure how Bielik and Curran fit in the same team.
The handball for the penalty was fair in my view. If you try to block a shot with your arms out it’s seen as ‘deliberate’, even if it’s ball to hand, rather than hand to ball. Straightforward really.
At least our promotion push didn’t hit the skids and top marks to the team for getting the win!! 😂
Also their info about us tiring in the last 20 mins is a season out of date.
I love winning these scrappy matches. Another string to the Bow (yer).
...but energy, touch, speed of thought and vision. Looked a fine player today.
From the corner, Taylor makes a back for the keeper .... but straightaway you can hear the ref blow for a foul.
Taylor falls to the ground, with the keeper falling on top of him.
The game has been stopped before the keeper picks himself up, and as Taylor is getting up, the keeper steps back towards Taylor and pushes him to the ground.
The ruck starts after that.
Absolutely nothing to worry about!
Just kidding.