I do think there is a lot of hypocrisy in the USA by the Left, on this issue (we already know there is plenty on the Right.) After all, very conservative estimates are that 300+ innocent civilian children and over 1000+ total innocent civilians were killed by drone-bombings alone, by Obama in his 8 years. All done in sovereign territory of other so-called "Allies" and without any proper declaration of war or even admittance of such activity most of the time. Where were the Left's boycotts, then? Now, with one dead Turk in non-sovereign territory, suddenly everyone is up in arms. 300+. This irks me.
The Nobel judges didn't cover themselves in glory when they awarded Obama his peace prize.
Probably fake, but if the pictures I've been sent are actually him then I'd say it was a fair bit more than a fight
Clearly it was an accident, I mean how many times do you hear of a 15v1 brawl break out and the one being accidently brutally killed? Happens all the time on a Saturday night.
Yeah so you fly in the 15 guys closest to you who can kill someone, chop them up and forensically clean the scene up, then you forget other people have intelligence agencies bugging your gaff and have records of you fellas coming in.
Reuters report of another version from Saudi official.
'The latest account, provided by a Saudi official who requested anonymity, includes details on how the team of 15 Saudi nationals sent to confront Khashoggi on Oct. 2 had threatened him with being drugged and kidnapped and then killed him in a chokehold when he resisted. A member of the team then dressed in Khashoggi’s clothes to make it appear as if he had left the consulate'
"The video appears to show the man leaving the consulate by the back door on the day the journalist was killed, wearing Khashoggi's clothes, a fake beard and glasses"
The Saudi excuses are the state level version of those blokes who go into A&E with a ketchup bottle up their arse who claim to have slipped whilst cleaning the kitchen starkers.
The Saudi excuses are the state level version of those blokes who go into A&E with a ketchup bottle up their arse who claim to have slipped whilst cleaning the kitchen starkers.
The Saudi excuses are the state level version of those blokes who go into A&E with a ketchup bottle up their arse who claim to have slipped whilst cleaning the kitchen starkers.
I think it’s a case of waiting until the most credible excuse is released. I am surprised they didn’t say “Khashoggi fell on a bone saw several times while we tried to protect him from beating himself up”.
the Saudi’s will keep changing their storey until it is something vaguely credible but does not implicate the crown prince at which time Trump et al will delightedly congratulate them for coming clean and express their delight it has been resolved and the crown prince is not involved. Then they will carry on their arms deals.
the Saudi’s will keep changing their storey until it is something vaguely credible but does not implicate the crown prince at which time Trump et al will delightedly congratulate them for coming clean and express their delight it has been resolved and the crown prince is not involved. Then they will carry on their arms deals.
Ergogan's statement pretty short on details after promising to tell all. Does he have evidence or is he bluffing?
Or is he using the information to blackmail some of the richest people on the planet. The Saudi's would clearly pay billions of dollars to make this go away.
BTW what's the top theory as to why he was killed? Was it solely down to personal enmity from the crown prince or did Khashoggi have information about the Saudi's that was so explosive that he had to die? (Just wondering if anyone's seen any credible theories?)
Not heard any suggestion that he had anything damaging. It seems to be pretty much that he said nasty things about MBS. Of course, whatever negative light Khashoggi's journalism cast the Saudi's in has now completely gone away and the world now thinks of MBS as a wonderful chap again.
Ergogan's statement pretty short on details after promising to tell all. Does he have evidence or is he bluffing?
Or is he using the information to blackmail some of the richest people on the planet. The Saudi's would clearly pay billions of dollars to make this go away.
BTW what's the top theory as to why he was killed? Was it solely down to personal enmity from the crown prince or did Khashoggi have information about the Saudi's that was so explosive that he had to die? (Just wondering if anyone's seen any credible theories?)
If he had explosive info, itd be out there already, I believe it's just a case of The Crown Prince accepting zero criticism.
Comments
Oh, bugger.
And you didn’t buy Charlton either,
Reuters report of another version from Saudi official.
'The latest account, provided by a Saudi official who requested anonymity, includes details on how the team of 15 Saudi nationals sent to confront Khashoggi on Oct. 2 had threatened him with being drugged and kidnapped and then killed him in a chokehold when he resisted. A member of the team then dressed in Khashoggi’s clothes to make it appear as if he had left the consulate'
There's a quote in it that is just insane...
"The video appears to show the man leaving the consulate by the back door on the day the journalist was killed, wearing Khashoggi's clothes, a fake beard and glasses"
My dog ate it.
BTW what's the top theory as to why he was killed? Was it solely down to personal enmity from the crown prince or did Khashoggi have information about the Saudi's that was so explosive that he had to die? (Just wondering if anyone's seen any credible theories?)