Disappointed but we are definitely not good enough for the league above at present. I would love Bowyer and Jacokson to stay. Amos needs to stay. Am I the only one who doesn't understand the praise and prem clubs looking at Konsa ?
They are looking at potential and with good coaching/development he could develop into a fine defender (for relatively little financial outlay).
Crap end to a crap season. We had a nice little run under our latest manager, (of how many now under this idiot?), but I feel we are grasping at straws. Its plain to see we are a shell of what we were once, long before the Belgium insect rolled into town with his pet. The saddest thing for me is, we now judge ourselves against the likes of Shrewsbury, Rochdale, Rotherham, Scunthorpe, Plymouth and a rake of other eternal third/forth division teams. Nothing wrong with these teams but struggling in the third tier of English football with these teams is not my clubs natural level. I know we have no right to be anywhere other than where our team can perform but these past few years and probably a few more have highlighted how poorly run Charlton is and has been run, not just under the latest mastermind. Hopefully we can draw a line under yesterdays league 3's footballing lesson and look to a brighter future with a new owner who respects football and those who support it.
if some idiots willing to pay a few million for konsa id bite there hand off assemble a league 1 squad with the cash, a few proven players at this level and think we have a decent chance of autos next season, apart from Sunderland the other 2 aren't exactly loaded Barnsley and Burton.
Sadly, we were miles away. We need three touches to control the ball – our opponents take just the one. And not only today – apart from a bright start last August and a steeliness under Bowyer, we have been piss-poor all season. We lack basic technical skills.
Amos has been excellent, and made a fantastic save near the end today. Pearce and Bauer have been tough and solid throughout the run-in – but their clearances drop to the yawning emptiness of our midfield. When in possession, our advancing moves are grindingly slow and transparently obvious – dithering around on the wing, then a hospital pass to a man in trouble. Meanwhile, our opponents are all back and ready to defend. We have no fire, no spark, no danger – nothing to surprise or shock the opposition.
Case in point today – Shrews’ goal: acute, quick, incisive. We never even got close. This flaccid weakness has dogged us all season. A team from a small country town has beaten us three times in the last few weeks. Gillingham did the double over us; Wimbledon dumped us out of the Cup – and then beat us again at their crappy little ground in the league. Mid-season, we won just five league games in five months. We can’t score.
We need tackling and creative midfield players who command possession and feed instinctive, ruthless strikers. We need a clear-out. This should be Muir’s urgent priority.
In a nutshell. Spot on assessment/summary.
In short, over two-legs we had nobody who could beat a man....apart from the merest glimmer from Mavididi and Fosu. We had no-one with enough pace to trouble their back-line. Our forwards aren't slow but the Shrews back-line were quicker.
if some idiots willing to pay a few million for konsa id bite there hand off assemble a league 1 squad with the cash, a few proven players at this level and think we have a decent chance of autos next season, apart from Sunderland the other 2 aren't exactly loaded Barnsley and Burton.
I'd be pleasantly surprised if we got more than £2m for him. That might be enough to sign Ben Amos and pay a bit of his wages.....
Bitterly disappointed but in retrospect, it would have been a travesty if anything even vaguely successful emerged from the disastrous Duchatelet era,
Bowyer must stay in some capacity. He gave us a glimmer of hope and pride amidst the complete shambles our club has become under the stewardship of that emotionally. and ethically bankrupt old moron.
It started with humiliation at Sheffield United due to his incompetent meddling and ended in disappointment in Shrewsbury due to his negligence and mismanagement.
Seeing as Carlton Morris didn’t get booked for that assault on Bauer will the officials retrospectively look at that and do anything?
I'd say it depends if its in the Referee's report
If its in there, then the referee is acknowledging that he saw what happened and so felt that no action was needed... I was under the impression that retrospective action can only be taken against a player if its not covered off by that report?
Flew up there and back 2.5 hrs both waze .... Gotta get that app it’s a must for all car drivers and the more people that use it the better it’ll become .
Tame as ever the smaller club wanted it more and we were weak . I’m not too concerned about them having a mental loop and giving it to us when they scored , that’s part of the banter , if you can’t take it don’t give it , the aggro bollox can fuck off . They pushed their game plan to the limits and mingey clubs have to do that , they can’t compete with the big boys and play free flowing footy ,as already mentioned almost wimbledonesque in their approach .
We need ownership sorted quickly and a plan in place for next season , which clearly isn’t happening atm and we are falling behind the curve , the wankiness of our club continues .
10% top two ........ 50% play offs. ......... 40% 7th-12th
Yes, they had players who were comfortable enough on the ball - but Wimbledon beat us recently with a team of genuine cloggers! We have to address this weakness for next season!
all right, which one of you posted this little message on the shrewsbury forum?
"First of all I would like to say that the majority of us accept we were cr@p. Your team pretty much just bullied ours, 25+ fouls or something before the first booking? Blatant penalty waved off? Elbow ignored for a red? Basically it was a cr@p game of football and the team that was a bit less cr@p won.
I'll be straight up I am bitter. All season when I've seen Blackburn and Wigan fans mock you about bottling it I've felt bad for you and thought they came across a bit weird. You're a small club with limited resources challenging two big clubs with a lot of money how can anyone go against an underdog story? However after today though I can honestly say I'm glad you bottled it and hope you do so at Wembley as well. That whole section of your fans on the right hand side corner (facing away from away end) are creatures and I assume probably won't be at another game in their life if you fail to go up. Not saying all Charlton fans are innocent cause we do have some plebs but for how little your fan base is I am amazed at the cunt to non cunt ratio.
On the drive back a group of about 30 of your inbred fans who all looked 30+ and had a combined weight of at least 700 stone were starting on 4 young lads minding their own business on the way back to the car? Proper cowards. This was outside the Ugly Pig, relevant you know cause that's what 99% of your scummy little fans look like. And then when I'm in traffic trying to get out your fans are all around my car calling these lads scum despite goading them and punching them? Genuinely still can't believe how classless your s**t little club is. Obviously none of you said much to me cause I have a bit of facial hair and look over 21.
Basically, I hope you get slaughtered at Wembley, then your manager gets swooped up, your best players get raided, your scummy little Day trippers go back to supporting Man U or whoever else they usually watch down the little ugly pig pub with their little ugly pig friends and then who knows depending on the fixtures and if all what I hope happens, happens we get the chance to send you down.
Ball boys , goalkeeper and all wasting time right from the start, ref didn't have a clue and bottled it on a number of occasions.
Having said that they were far more organised and physical than us.
Our front two are so slow and immobile it doesn't give chance to create anything.
Onwards and upwards let's hope for a successful takeover soon to give a chance to plan next seasons campaign.
Ajose is anything but slow or immobile. I'd hold onto him for next year. He definitely has more about him than we've seen from him. (8 goals 41 games, 2 assists) only one not afraid to shoot too.
Flew up there and back 2.5 hrs both waze .... Gotta get that app it’s a must for all car drivers and the more people that use it the better it’ll become .
Tame as ever the smaller club wanted it more and we were weak . I’m not too concerned about them having a mental loop and giving it to us when they scored , that’s part of the banter , if you can’t take it don’t give it , the aggro bollox can fuck off . They pushed their game plan to the limits and mingey clubs have to do that , they can’t compete with the big boys and play free flowing footy ,as already mentioned almost wimbledonesque in their approach .
We need ownership sorted quickly and a plan in place for next season , which clearly isn’t happening atm and we are falling behind the curve , the wankiness of our club continues .
10% top two ........ 50% play offs. ......... 40% 7th-12th
all right, which one of you posted this little message on the shrewsbury forum?
"First of all I would like to say that the majority of us accept we were cr@p. Your team pretty much just bullied ours, 25+ fouls or something before the first booking? Blatant penalty waved off? Elbow ignored for a red? Basically it was a cr@p game of football and the team that was a bit less cr@p won.
I'll be straight up I am bitter. All season when I've seen Blackburn and Wigan fans mock you about bottling it I've felt bad for you and thought they came across a bit weird. You're a small club with limited resources challenging two big clubs with a lot of money how can anyone go against an underdog story? However after today though I can honestly say I'm glad you bottled it and hope you do so at Wembley as well. That whole section of your fans on the right hand side corner (facing away from away end) are creatures and I assume probably won't be at another game in their life if you fail to go up. Not saying all Charlton fans are innocent cause we do have some plebs but for how little your fan base is I am amazed at the cunt to non cunt ratio.
On the drive back a group of about 30 of your inbred fans who all looked 30+ and had a combined weight of at least 700 stone were starting on 4 young lads minding their own business on the way back to the car? Proper cowards. This was outside the Ugly Pig, relevant you know cause that's what 99% of your scummy little fans look like. And then when I'm in traffic trying to get out your fans are all around my car calling these lads scum despite goading them and punching them? Genuinely still can't believe how classless your s**t little club is. Obviously none of you said much to me cause I have a bit of facial hair and look over 21.
Basically, I hope you get slaughtered at Wembley, then your manager gets swooped up, your best players get raided, your scummy little Day trippers go back to supporting Man U or whoever else they usually watch down the little ugly pig pub with their little ugly pig friends and then who knows depending on the fixtures and if all what I hope happens, happens we get the chance to send you down.
all right, which one of you posted this little message on the shrewsbury forum?
"First of all I would like to say that the majority of us accept we were cr@p. Your team pretty much just bullied ours, 25+ fouls or something before the first booking? Blatant penalty waved off? Elbow ignored for a red? Basically it was a cr@p game of football and the team that was a bit less cr@p won.
I'll be straight up I am bitter. All season when I've seen Blackburn and Wigan fans mock you about bottling it I've felt bad for you and thought they came across a bit weird. You're a small club with limited resources challenging two big clubs with a lot of money how can anyone go against an underdog story? However after today though I can honestly say I'm glad you bottled it and hope you do so at Wembley as well. That whole section of your fans on the right hand side corner (facing away from away end) are creatures and I assume probably won't be at another game in their life if you fail to go up. Not saying all Charlton fans are innocent cause we do have some plebs but for how little your fan base is I am amazed at the cunt to non cunt ratio.
On the drive back a group of about 30 of your inbred fans who all looked 30+ and had a combined weight of at least 700 stone were starting on 4 young lads minding their own business on the way back to the car? Proper cowards. This was outside the Ugly Pig, relevant you know cause that's what 99% of your scummy little fans look like. And then when I'm in traffic trying to get out your fans are all around my car calling these lads scum despite goading them and punching them? Genuinely still can't believe how classless your s**t little club is. Obviously none of you said much to me cause I have a bit of facial hair and look over 21.
Basically, I hope you get slaughtered at Wembley, then your manager gets swooped up, your best players get raided, your scummy little Day trippers go back to supporting Man U or whoever else they usually watch down the little ugly pig pub with their little ugly pig friends and then who knows depending on the fixtures and if all what I hope happens, happens we get the chance to send you down.
I agree with a fair bit of what he says. But going onto their forum and posting that just comes across as total sour grapes and is just embarrassing IMO.
Read most of the posts beforehand... my thoughts are :
We didn't deserve to win as we didn't create many or anywhere near enough chances.
We were the poorer of two poor sides. Like it or loathe it they countered our skill by brute strength, gamesmanship and not to mention, the odd foul or two. (is there any footage on the alleged elbow as I didn't see it whilst at the game nor a clear view of the pen)
Jury is out on Bowyer. He produced some incredible results mixed in with some not so. He certainly got the effect that new managers get but as Blucher stated, the last goal being off of Pearces' backside against Rovers, 4 games ago says it all.
Mixed feelings about yesterday, the defeat surely means RD can't ask for more money, so that's a positive. Some new grounds for me and my son to tick off and hopefully with investment, a successful campaign. Will be good to buy a Season Ticket when the deal is confirmed.
On an aside, having been to many football matches, for many years, I get the tribal rivalry and banter. I was on the left hand side of the stand so unaware if we were "giving it" beforehand. But those neanderthals that came on to celebrate and the goad went well beyond what is acceptable. To then hear that our fans on the receiving end of the Police treatment even tho I think only 1 actually made the pitch is a joke.
Onwards and upwards, I can go and enjoy my cricket now.
Kicked off the park first half, played off it second half (for about 25 mins).
Good luck to Shrewsbury, they earned it. They pressed and disrupted us and we couldn't handle it. And when they came at us early in the 2nd, we couldn't handle that either.
They'd better go up or Paul Hurst will be snapped up sharpish.
Shrewsbury had the beating of us simple as that . Morris up Front is quality , aggressive , combative and scores goals kinda what magennis should do and gave Pearce and Bauer a torrid time in both games .
As for us frustrating is an understatement . Cannot fault the players effort those boys ran their bits off but just couldn’t cope with Shrewsbury physically
No, no, no - that cant be right. The bloke behind us said they didn't show any effort or fight.
Well I didn’t touch a drop of alcohol all day and watched sober from where I was standing the effort was definitely there , quality wasn’t .
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Better team won, major investment needed if we're to get out of this pub league next season.
We had a nice little run under our latest manager, (of how many now under this idiot?), but I feel we are grasping at straws. Its plain to see we are a shell of what we were once, long before the Belgium insect rolled into town with his pet.
The saddest thing for me is, we now judge ourselves against the likes of Shrewsbury, Rochdale, Rotherham, Scunthorpe, Plymouth and a rake of other eternal third/forth division teams.
Nothing wrong with these teams but struggling in the third tier of English football with these teams is not my clubs natural level. I know we have no right to be anywhere other than where our team can perform but these past few years and probably a few more have highlighted how poorly run Charlton is and has been run, not just under the latest mastermind.
Hopefully we can draw a line under yesterdays league 3's footballing lesson and look to a brighter future with a new owner who respects football and those who support it.
Bowyer must stay in some capacity. He gave us a glimmer of hope and pride amidst the complete shambles our club has become under the stewardship of that emotionally. and ethically bankrupt old moron.
It started with humiliation at Sheffield United due to his incompetent meddling and ended in disappointment in Shrewsbury due to his negligence and mismanagement.
Let's just hope that's the end of it.
Pissed off that we're still in League One but be nice (to an extent) to face some new sides next season!!
Especially Accrington as I've kept an eye on their progress since they returned to the Conference
http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/head_to_head.sd?team_id=527&team2_id=42
Sunderland is a slight contrast!
If its in there, then the referee is acknowledging that he saw what happened and so felt that no action was needed... I was under the impression that retrospective action can only be taken against a player if its not covered off by that report?
Gotta get that app it’s a must for all car drivers and the more people that use it the better it’ll become .
Tame as ever the smaller club wanted it more and we were weak .
I’m not too concerned about them having a mental loop and giving it to us when they scored , that’s part of the banter , if you can’t take it don’t give it , the aggro bollox can fuck off .
They pushed their game plan to the limits and mingey clubs have to do that , they can’t compete with the big boys and play free flowing footy ,as already mentioned almost wimbledonesque in their approach .
We need ownership sorted quickly and a plan in place for next season , which clearly isn’t happening atm and we are falling behind the curve , the wankiness of our club continues .
10% top two ........ 50% play offs. ......... 40% 7th-12th
100% Roland Out
"First of all I would like to say that the majority of us accept we were cr@p. Your team pretty much just bullied ours, 25+ fouls or something before the first booking? Blatant penalty waved off? Elbow ignored for a red? Basically it was a cr@p game of football and the team that was a bit less cr@p won.
I'll be straight up I am bitter. All season when I've seen Blackburn and Wigan fans mock you about bottling it I've felt bad for you and thought they came across a bit weird. You're a small club with limited resources challenging two big clubs with a lot of money how can anyone go against an underdog story? However after today though I can honestly say I'm glad you bottled it and hope you do so at Wembley as well. That whole section of your fans on the right hand side corner (facing away from away end) are creatures and I assume probably won't be at another game in their life if you fail to go up. Not saying all Charlton fans are innocent cause we do have some plebs but for how little your fan base is I am amazed at the cunt to non cunt ratio.
On the drive back a group of about 30 of your inbred fans who all looked 30+ and had a combined weight of at least 700 stone were starting on 4 young lads minding their own business on the way back to the car? Proper cowards. This was outside the Ugly Pig, relevant you know cause that's what 99% of your scummy little fans look like. And then when I'm in traffic trying to get out your fans are all around my car calling these lads scum despite goading them and punching them? Genuinely still can't believe how classless your s**t little club is. Obviously none of you said much to me cause I have a bit of facial hair and look over 21.
Basically, I hope you get slaughtered at Wembley, then your manager gets swooped up, your best players get raided, your scummy little Day trippers go back to supporting Man U or whoever else they usually watch down the little ugly pig pub with their little ugly pig friends and then who knows depending on the fixtures and if all what I hope happens, happens we get the chance to send you down.
s**te little club"
Read more: http://blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/97361/all-charlton-fans?page=1#ixzz5FT1ZpbTB
We didn't deserve to win as we didn't create many or anywhere near enough chances.
We were the poorer of two poor sides. Like it or loathe it they countered our skill by brute strength, gamesmanship and not to mention, the odd foul or two. (is there any footage on the alleged elbow as I didn't see it whilst at the game nor a clear view of the pen)
Jury is out on Bowyer. He produced some incredible results mixed in with some not so. He certainly got the effect that new managers get but as Blucher stated, the last goal being off of Pearces' backside against Rovers, 4 games ago says it all.
Mixed feelings about yesterday, the defeat surely means RD can't ask for more money, so that's a positive. Some new grounds for me and my son to tick off and hopefully with investment, a successful campaign. Will be good to buy a Season Ticket when the deal is confirmed.
On an aside, having been to many football matches, for many years, I get the tribal rivalry and banter. I was on the left hand side of the stand so unaware if we were "giving it" beforehand. But those neanderthals that came on to celebrate and the goad went well beyond what is acceptable. To then hear that our fans on the receiving end of the Police treatment even tho I think only 1 actually made the pitch is a joke.
Onwards and upwards, I can go and enjoy my cricket now.
Good luck to Shrewsbury, they earned it. They pressed and disrupted us and we couldn't handle it. And when they came at us early in the 2nd, we couldn't handle that either.
They'd better go up or Paul Hurst will be snapped up sharpish.