Cant see us winning 3 out the next 6 games. But then i couldnt see us only getting 1 point out of 6 the last two games. I certainly didnt expect 9 points out of 9 the 3 games before that. In fact i dont know what to expect anymore.
On a bigger better pitch we will be better, but you have to play on all pitches. Fosu is such a big player for us and can make the difference in the run in - injury permitting. But odds against us now though not impossible.
Bowyer has to accept KaiKai is not the answer to any reasonable question!
Ridiculous scenes here. 2 weeks ago we were nowhere. We thrash three teams, conceeding only 1 goal.
We lose 1 game and you guessed it, a bunch of adults who haven't discovered fire, yet can operate a computer declare that the playoffs are gone. This is their conclusion despite the fact we're actually in the playoffs and are about to play all the teams around us.
One point from Bristol Rovers and Wimbledon. What conclusions do you draw?
Lack of guts & fight is always more frustrating than slips and comedy errors. Bauer had one nightmare moment, versus 94 minutes of nothing from Zyro, Aribo. And yet again subs make no impact whatsoever - Marshall's cameo was an embarrassment.
I really hoped tonight would be my last visit to that horrible dump...but on tonight's evidence it won't be
Bowyer made a big mistake my dropping Ajose, whilst he hasn't scored he has been a massive threat. Mavididi did sweet FA and looked very unfit. I said in the preview I would take four points, let's see if we bounce back Saturday. Tonight for me was worse than Peterborough, that says a lot
I didn't go tonight, but after our loss there in the FA Cup it was no surprise.
We are poor against physical, hard working teams, and that to me is down to the squad which has too many "nice" players, ones who want to play attractive, flashy football, but struggle when being closed down and pressurised by a strong physical team on a poor pitch. We lack a midfield general, someone to dominate the opposition, especially in these sorts of games.
I thought Ajose was our best players on Saturday, at least he moved into space and had a couple of shots on goal. Mavididi and Kaikai to me are too similar to play in the same team, both like to dribble into traffic.
We did not have a shot on goal against a team 20th in the league. Let that set in!!! We were so poor that we couldn't even muster a shot in anger, Bowyer and Jackson should have those wankers in training first thing tomorrow to watch that performance.
Poor! Only players to escape with any credibility Page & Reeves Thought there was plenty of effort but no quality. Not true to say they dont care. Playoffs unlikely now me thinks
Better to have gone for it and lost 2-0 than what sounds like capitulation.
Yet we seemed to do the opposite. We took off Mavididi who looked a bit more likely than Zyro. Then subbed our best player Reeves, which ended our chances. Presumably both subbed as they couldn't last more than 60 mins and also play on Saturday.
I agree we should have gone for it and yet we didn't at all. The game was up as soon as Reeves was subbed. Disappointing.
Bad pitch aside, they wilted against a really combative and tenacious display. Didn't stretch them enough, didn't get at their full-backs. Mavididi had the beating of his man a couple of times early on, so of course he decided to disappear completely. The forwards didn't link up at all. Aribo didn't come off. JFC and Reeves tried to do it all on their own but it wasn't enough. Kaikai kept taking the wrong option.
Well summed up.
I would add we looked flat in every sense of the word. No movement up front, no players looking to get into pockets of space, no width. We played right into their hands with a narrow 4-4-2 that looked to be flat at times and a diamond at others. Either way, we tried to play vertically against them and played totally into their hands. We were lucky to get nil.
This does not make Bowyer rubbish just as three wins on the bounce didn't make him brilliant. But our tactics were poor and utterly predictable tonight. Wimbledon will have watched the Rotherham and Brizzle games and thought "right, be compact, physical, let Jason Pearce have the ball, they have no width and they'll struggle to get service into the forwards, get frustrated, lump it long." And we did.
The substitutions were very strange. How Kaikai played 80 minutes is beyond me. Why Reeves came off is beyond me. Marshall presumably came on to provide some natural width but at that point we seemed to be playing a flat 4-4-2 and looking to lump it forward and guess what? We're shit at that. Absolute meat and drink for Wimbledon.
As Leuth says JFC and Reeves tried to make it happen and just couldn't. Would add Page to that list and he kept driving at them. Thought Bauer recovered after his mistake and was solid for the rest of the game.
End of the day, we're still in the playoff spots. Tricky run in, but our destiny is still in our hands.
On a bigger better pitch we will be better, but you have to play on all pitches. Fosu is such a big player for us and can make the difference in the run in - injury permitting. But odds against us now though not impossible.
Bowyer has to accept KaiKai is not the answer to any reasonable question!
He is not. But I do have a good (a relative term) bit of trivia that I hope is correct.
Tonight there was one former and one current loanee from Palace to Charlton on the pitch. Can you name the loanee who signed for us from Palace in between them?
Ridiculous scenes here. 2 weeks ago we were nowhere. We thrash three teams, conceeding only 1 goal.
We lose 1 game and you guessed it, a bunch of adults who haven't discovered fire, yet can operate a computer declare that the playoffs are gone. This is their conclusion despite the fact we're actually in the playoffs and are about to play all the teams around us.
I take it you weren't there. I was. 180 degrees turnaround from the Plymouth & Northampton games where we bossed the games & played fast flowing attacking football. Tonight was dire.........no, worse than dire, abject. No shots on target. I'll repeat that, NO SHOTS ON TARGET. Bowyer got it all wrong & his substitutions were worse than some of Robinsons'. Reeves off ???? He was the best player up to that point & Zyro ???. Half time should have seen Ajose on for the loanee who didn't win an aerial challenge all night. I can only assume that Mavididi was brought off because of he has just come back from injury, if not then that was another baffling decision.
If we play like that at Pompey we'll get slaughtered. I did say on the pre-match thread that it would be better to lose tonight & win the 2 six-pointers. They are now MASSIVE games. Somehow Bowyer has got to get back the belief & urgency that was there 2 weeks ago. Somehow I doubt it. We always bottle big games.
and to make matters worse Millwall won & are now in the play-offs. the CHAMPIONSHIP play-offs. I'm off to support them. at least they know how to win games.
Ridiculous scenes here. 2 weeks ago we were nowhere. We thrash three teams, conceeding only 1 goal.
We lose 1 game and you guessed it, a bunch of adults who haven't discovered fire, yet can operate a computer declare that the playoffs are gone. This is their conclusion despite the fact we're actually in the playoffs and are about to play all the teams around us.
I take it you weren't there. I was. 180 degrees turnaround from the Plymouth & Northampton games where we bossed the games & played fast flowing attacking football. Tonight was dire.........no, worse than dire, abject. No shots on target. I'll repeat that, NO SHOTS ON TARGET. Bowyer got it all wrong & his substitutions were worse than some of Robinsons'. Reeves off ???? He was the best player up to that point & Zyro ???. Half time should have seen Ajose on for the loanee who didn't win an aerial challenge all night. I can only assume that Mavididi was brought off because of he has just come back from injury, if not then that was another baffling decision.
If we play like that at Pompey we'll get slaughtered. I did say on the pre-match thread that it would be better to lose tonight & win the 2 six-pointers. They are now MASSIVE games. Somehow Bowyer has got to get back the belief & urgency that was there 2 weeks ago. Somehow I doubt it. We always bottle big games.
and to make matters worse Millwall won & are now in the play-offs. the CHAMPIONSHIP play-offs. I'm off to support them. at least they know how to win games.
Up the Lions.
Would deserve a flag in most circumstances. Understandable though.
For me tonight Bowyer was rubbish. Why? Because it was obvious they were crowding their area. We could have tried to get some advantage from that - taking a risk and putting an extra man up there - and the fact that they wanted to keep what they had would have possibly allowed us to get away with it. You have to counter that tactic with either ability (that wasn't going to happen tonight) or getting numbers in there quickly.
Come on, they were not far up from a pub team and if you want to make the passes where it hurts nobody, then make them where it hurts too! Otherwise you are a bunch of cowardly a*holes! Yes the pitch was crap but if Bury were a goal down in that game they would have found a way to put them under some pressure.
KaiKai was doing sod all and he took Reeves off who was working his socks off! We didn't need two centre halves chasing the game in the second half. This team needs Fosu so much on nights like these!
Shocking second half in particular. The players didn’t seem to know what the substitutions were trying to achieve and there were some real letdowns out there.
But. To be fair to Bowyer he’s still got 10 points out of 15, which is probably at least five more than Robinson would have got and he’s a very inexperienced coach, never mind manager.
We do need to win on Saturday or it will look very difficult, given the fixtures.
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But then i couldnt see us only getting 1 point out of 6 the last two games.
I certainly didnt expect 9 points out of 9 the 3 games before that.
In fact i dont know what to expect anymore.
Bowyer has to accept KaiKai is not the answer to any reasonable question!
I really hoped tonight would be my last visit to that horrible dump...but on tonight's evidence it won't be
We are poor against physical, hard working teams, and that to me is down to the squad which has too many "nice" players, ones who want to play attractive, flashy football, but struggle when being closed down and pressurised by a strong physical team on a poor pitch. We lack a midfield general, someone to dominate the opposition, especially in these sorts of games.
I thought Ajose was our best players on Saturday, at least he moved into space and had a couple of shots on goal. Mavididi and Kaikai to me are too similar to play in the same team, both like to dribble into traffic.
No Fosu no goals.
Thought there was plenty of effort but no quality. Not true to say they dont care.
Playoffs unlikely now me thinks
Then subbed our best player Reeves, which ended our chances.
Presumably both subbed as they couldn't last more than 60 mins and also play on Saturday.
I agree we should have gone for it and yet we didn't at all. The game was up as soon as Reeves was subbed. Disappointing.
I would add we looked flat in every sense of the word. No movement up front, no players looking to get into pockets of space, no width. We played right into their hands with a narrow 4-4-2 that looked to be flat at times and a diamond at others. Either way, we tried to play vertically against them and played totally into their hands. We were lucky to get nil.
This does not make Bowyer rubbish just as three wins on the bounce didn't make him brilliant. But our tactics were poor and utterly predictable tonight. Wimbledon will have watched the Rotherham and Brizzle games and thought "right, be compact, physical, let Jason Pearce have the ball, they have no width and they'll struggle to get service into the forwards, get frustrated, lump it long." And we did.
The substitutions were very strange. How Kaikai played 80 minutes is beyond me. Why Reeves came off is beyond me. Marshall presumably came on to provide some natural width but at that point we seemed to be playing a flat 4-4-2 and looking to lump it forward and guess what? We're shit at that. Absolute meat and drink for Wimbledon.
As Leuth says JFC and Reeves tried to make it happen and just couldn't. Would add Page to that list and he kept driving at them. Thought Bauer recovered after his mistake and was solid for the rest of the game.
End of the day, we're still in the playoff spots. Tricky run in, but our destiny is still in our hands.
Tonight there was one former and one current loanee from Palace to Charlton on the pitch. Can you name the loanee who signed for us from Palace in between them?
If we play like that at Pompey we'll get slaughtered. I did say on the pre-match thread that it would be better to lose tonight & win the 2 six-pointers. They are now MASSIVE games. Somehow Bowyer has got to get back the belief & urgency that was there 2 weeks ago. Somehow I doubt it. We always bottle big games.
and to make matters worse Millwall won & are now in the play-offs. the CHAMPIONSHIP play-offs. I'm off to support them. at least they know how to win games.
Up the Lions.
Come on, they were not far up from a pub team and if you want to make the passes where it hurts nobody, then make them where it hurts too! Otherwise you are a bunch of cowardly a*holes! Yes the pitch was crap but if Bury were a goal down in that game they would have found a way to put them under some pressure.
KaiKai was doing sod all and he took Reeves off who was working his socks off! We didn't need two centre halves chasing the game in the second half. This team needs Fosu so much on nights like these!
I am fuming after that travesty!
But. To be fair to Bowyer he’s still got 10 points out of 15, which is probably at least five more than Robinson would have got and he’s a very inexperienced coach, never mind manager.
We do need to win on Saturday or it will look very difficult, given the fixtures.