I think KM is beyond help but it does have to be said that the best lesson in life is to make mistakes. On that basis she has probably learned more than any other CEO has in such a short period of time.
Interesting to see this from someone who has first-hand experience of working with her, a lot more than most of the posters on here. While no one could deny she made some proper howlers while in charge, and it would be impossible to argue that she has done a good job under any metric, I think it's pretty clear that she was put in an impossible situation from day one.
I think that's true.
But its also true that she made a large number of huge mistakes, all on her own, which a good, experienced CEO would not have done. She has contributed massively to her own failure.
Interesting to see this from someone who has first-hand experience of working with her, a lot more than most of the posters on here. While no one could deny she made some proper howlers while in charge, and it would be impossible to argue that she has done a good job under any metric, I think it's pretty clear that she was put in an impossible situation from day one.
You are joking aren't you?
If the best 'metric' is she is enthusiastic and bright, then my Border Collie has the right credentials to negotiate Phase III of Brexit.
If your up to your neck in shit, then get out. Don't keep digging. Her own ego kept her hanging on in an 'incredibly difficult position'. Most decent people would have put their hands up and moved on, rather than cling on to the very last minute of the regime.
Interesting to see this from someone who has first-hand experience of working with her, a lot more than most of the posters on here. While no one could deny she made some proper howlers while in charge, and it would be impossible to argue that she has done a good job under any metric, I think it's pretty clear that she was put in an impossible situation from day one.
If only she had just keep her trap shut..... Instead of alienating people every time she opened it.
Interesting to see this from someone who has first-hand experience of working with her, a lot more than most of the posters on here. While no one could deny she made some proper howlers while in charge, and it would be impossible to argue that she has done a good job under any metric, I think it's pretty clear that she was put in an impossible situation from day one.
Interesting to see this from someone who has first-hand experience of working with her, a lot more than most of the posters on here. While no one could deny she made some proper howlers while in charge, and it would be impossible to argue that she has done a good job under any metric, I think it's pretty clear that she was put in an impossible situation from day one.
Someone in her position shouldn't need as much support from above as she needed
She took a job she was ill equipped for and upset a lot of people - it was her decision to stay. In any other business she would have gone a long time ago.
Interesting to see this from someone who has first-hand experience of working with her, a lot more than most of the posters on here. While no one could deny she made some proper howlers while in charge, and it would be impossible to argue that she has done a good job under any metric, I think it's pretty clear that she was put in an impossible situation from day one.
You are joking aren't you?
If the best 'metric' is she is enthusiastic and bright, then my Border Collie has the right credentials to negotiate Phase III of Brexit.
If your up to your neck in shit, then get out. Don't keep digging. Her own ego kept her hanging on in an 'incredibly difficult position'. Most decent people would have put their hands up and moved on, rather than cling on to the very last minute of the regime.
Agreed, but if she had resigned early, would she have another job with an English football club now? Very unlikely. Shit for Charlton, great for her.
And the reality is that whoever was doing that job would have a very tough time, because Roland is a lunatic. She had no say in the hiring and firing of managers, she actively disliked Bob Peters and Roland knew this, but appointed him anyway. She totally misunderstood the fanbase, which is a fundamental flaw of someone in her position, and she was taken advantage of by players and clubs, which has cost the club a great deal. But she should never have been in the position in the first place. The fact that Roland gave her the job is the real problem here, the fact that she clung on in I think understandable for someone in her position. Until Roland goes, nothing changes.
Have to agree with some posts above - we can measure her by how she performed where we know she had autonomy, her dealing with fans and day to day running of the club. In those areas there are few if any who have a good word, indeed quite the opposite.
Indeed she was so bad in those areas it suggests she had more autonomy than we thought in other areas since the failings in other areas are so bad..
Perhaps as a lawyer she might be ok, but fees and contracts we aware of for our players suggest otherwise.
This ‘news’ doesnt surprise me however, there are plenty in the game who think fans are just a commodity and care little for the traditions or culture of the game.
Interesting to see this from someone who has first-hand experience of working with her, a lot more than most of the posters on here. While no one could deny she made some proper howlers while in charge, and it would be impossible to argue that she has done a good job under any metric, I think it's pretty clear that she was put in an impossible situation from day one.
Someone in her position shouldn't need as much support from above as she needed
Agree. She was at the top of the tree (but for Roland) so not sure where else this support was going to come from? She's supposed to be the one doing the supporting of those lower down the hierarchy and driving the organisation. Even when help/advice was offered by those who knew what they were talking about she ignored them and did her own thing. Badly.
She knew exactly what RD would be like to work for as well. Unfortunately we have been the unlucky recipients of her ridiculously high opinion of herself which is in no way backed up by her abilities.
Interesting to see this from someone who has first-hand experience of working with her, a lot more than most of the posters on here. While no one could deny she made some proper howlers while in charge, and it would be impossible to argue that she has done a good job under any metric, I think it's pretty clear that she was put in an impossible situation from day one.
The thing is, I would quite happily agree with that if she hadn't been so unrepentant and stubborn when she did screw up. When she first started I thought she came across very well and seemed extremely professional. She was a lawyer who loved football, so she ticked the boxes for smart and personally invested. The problem was that when she did start saying stupid stuff, she wouldn't back down. All she would have had to do after the first cases of foot in mouth would be say 'yep, sorry, got that one wrong' and everything would have been fine. We're not stupid, we know Roland is the real villain and she could have elicited a lot of sympathy from us with a bit more nous, but she was determined to say inane and insulting things, refuse to accept she'd got it wrong, and then try and create a victim narrative based on her gender and her nationality. It all could have been avoided if she just had the guts to admit when she's screwed up, but she doesn't and that flaw will follow her and hamstring her in whatever job she goes into, football or not, until she does something about it.
She'd do well to look back on this and ask herself if it's really likely that thousands of football fans despised her and her boss because they were all, collectively, a tremendous bunch of monsters, or if just maybe she might be a little bit culpable for their reactions.
The following is a quote from a lengthy interview RD gave in 2014 http://www.hildevanmalderen.be/geluk-is-mijn-prioriteit-niet-geld/ My management style is coaching people. I give them the freedom to work. If they have to decide for themselves, they are obliged to think about it and they cannot say afterwards: you have said that I should do it this way. That is called empowerment: giving power to the employees. [Google translation]
I’m not sure about the coaching bit, but the rest seems to fit with the errors we saw KM making.
Interesting to see this from someone who has first-hand experience of working with her, a lot more than most of the posters on here. While no one could deny she made some proper howlers while in charge, and it would be impossible to argue that she has done a good job under any metric, I think it's pretty clear that she was put in an impossible situation from day one.
FFS - after yesterday’s news I’d just began plotting the rest of our lives together. You mean I’m going to have to go through all this shit again when she starts taking flak from the likes of @Stog and @MrLambo and other users on an another club’s forum
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But its also true that she made a large number of huge mistakes, all on her own, which a good, experienced CEO would not have done. She has contributed massively to her own failure.
If the best 'metric' is she is enthusiastic and bright, then my Border Collie has the right credentials to negotiate Phase III of Brexit.
If your up to your neck in shit, then get out. Don't keep digging. Her own ego kept her hanging on in an 'incredibly difficult position'. Most decent people would have put their hands up and moved on, rather than cling on to the very last minute of the regime.
And the reality is that whoever was doing that job would have a very tough time, because Roland is a lunatic. She had no say in the hiring and firing of managers, she actively disliked Bob Peters and Roland knew this, but appointed him anyway. She totally misunderstood the fanbase, which is a fundamental flaw of someone in her position, and she was taken advantage of by players and clubs, which has cost the club a great deal. But she should never have been in the position in the first place. The fact that Roland gave her the job is the real problem here, the fact that she clung on in I think understandable for someone in her position. Until Roland goes, nothing changes.
Have to agree with some posts above - we can measure her by how she performed where we know she had autonomy, her dealing with fans and day to day running of the club. In those areas there are few if any who have a good word, indeed quite the opposite.
Indeed she was so bad in those areas it suggests she had more autonomy than we thought in other areas since the failings in other areas are so bad..
Perhaps as a lawyer she might be ok, but fees and contracts we aware of for our players suggest otherwise.
She knew exactly what RD would be like to work for as well. Unfortunately we have been the unlucky recipients of her ridiculously high opinion of herself which is in no way backed up by her abilities.
She'd do well to look back on this and ask herself if it's really likely that thousands of football fans despised her and her boss because they were all, collectively, a tremendous bunch of monsters, or if just maybe she might be a little bit culpable for their reactions.
The liar banner
A few plastic pigs
A condom(just in case a couple sneek in and have sex on halfway line)
A few cushions as our sofa lacked those
My management style is coaching people. I give them the freedom to work. If they have to decide for themselves, they are obliged to think about it and they cannot say afterwards: you have said that I should do it this way. That is called empowerment: giving power to the employees. [Google translation]
I’m not sure about the coaching bit, but the rest seems to fit with the errors we saw KM making.
Just saying........