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Harvey Weinstein

Haven’t seen a thread on this, so thought I’d make one. Seems to be (along with the Cosby case) as big as saville and yew tree over in Hollywood. Known for years this guy was an arrogant pos, now he’s a rapist pos. he’s even openly admitted to hurting people. Hollywood celebs are slowly coming out of the woodwork to condemn him after he was thrown out of his own company earlier by his own brother (who was rumoured to be the ny times leak last week).

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  • Do we have to :-(

    Considering he’s openly admitted to having a problem sexually assaulting people, I think surely there’s not much legal Grey area?
  • The Weinstein Company (TWC) board fired Harvey Weinstein on Sunday afternoon as the sexual harassment scandal reached crisis level.

    The board of representatives issued the following statement: ”In light of new information about misconduct by Harvey Weinstein that has emerged in the past few days, the directors of The Weinstein Company - Robert Weinstein, Lance Maerov, Richard Koenigsberg and Tarak Ben Ammar - have determined, and have informed Harvey Weinstein, that his employment with The Weinstein Company is terminated, effective immediately.”

    According to reports Weinstein flew from New York to Los Angeles and fought hard to stay during a heated meeting with a depleted all-male board after several members quit late last week. When he refused to explore a number of options presented to him, the board felt they had no alternative but to terminate his position.

    There have been new complaints to emerge since devastating allegations of sexual harassment surfaced in an article in The New York Times that everybody is talking about in Hollywood.

    Writing in The Sunday Times, UK freelance script reader Liza Campbell claimed Weinstein invited her to join him in the bath at a meeting in his room at the Savoy in London in 1995 when he ran Miramax. Representatives for TWC declined to comment to Screen.

    This follows an allegation by former local cable news anchor Lauren Sivan in The Huffington Post that Weinstein cornered her in a private area of New York restaurant Cafe Socialista ten years ago and, she claims, masturbated in front of her. The allegation is one of several against Weinstein that have gone public since last Thursday.

    TWC chaos

    The firing follows a chaotic few days for TWC after Lisa Bloom, the attorney whose work for Harvey Weinstein drew the ire of her own mother and renowned lawyer Gloria Allred, quit as the embattled film mogul’s advisor.

    Bloom’s departure came as Weinstein had begun an “indefinite leave of absence”, before his position at the company was terminated. Bloom, a renowned women’s rights advocate who played a role in the ousting of former Fox News presenter Bill O’Reilly, announced the move on Twitter on Saturday.

    “I have resigned as an advisor to Harvey Weinstein,” Bloom wrote. “My understanding is that Mr. Weinstein and his board are moving toward an agreement.” The nature of that agreement was unclear at time of writing.

    When Thursday’s article broke, Bloom initially said Weinstein denied many of the accusations as “patently false.” At the time she had described her former client as “an old dinosaur learning new ways” and said he had instructed her to review the company’s policies and practices towards women in the workplace.

    Her work with Weinstein had also enraged celebrities, among them the actress Rose McGowan, who has been particularly vocal in her commentary on Twitter.

    On Saturday US president Donald Trump weighed in on the scandal, telling reporters he was “not at all surprised” by the sexual harassment allegations against the film mogul. The dig came after Weinstein had issued a statement to the Times in which he spoke of channelling his anger issues into anti-NRA [National Rifle Association] activities and alluded to a joint retirement party for the organisation’s head Wayne LaPierre and the president.

    Following a board meeting last Friday, TWC co-chairman Bob Weinstein and president and COO David Glasser assumed the reins. The board has instructed an investigation into the allegations of sexual harassment levelled against Weinstein in the Times article. It was unclear at time of writing whether that probe or the emergence of new public complaints triggered the firing on Sunday.

    The scandal has become an embarassment to the Democratic Party. Weinstein has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the cause and raised millions more through fundraisers, becoming close with former secretary of state and former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, among others.

    Senators including Senate minority leader Charles Schumer said they would give the donations to groups working with victims of sexual abuse. The Republican National Committee has called on the Democrats to return the donations.

    Jodi Kantor, one of the two Times reporters who broke the story that has engulfed Hollywood, claimed that Lanny Davis, a member of Weinstein’s crisis management team and a former special counsel to US president Bill Clinton, was also departing.
  • from what I have read all cases have been settled out of court. Shame someone couldn't have seen it through legally and maybe spared others suffering abuse although I can understand why they may not have wanted to do so.
  • Hopefully the days are numbered for people like this. Not holding my breath though
  • McBobbin said:

    Hopefully the days are numbered for people like this. Not holding my breath though

    That was something he probably asked women to do...
  • I’m pretty sure this is the tip of the iceberg for this in Hollywood.

    Pretty sure there are a number of squeaky bums in Hollywood right now
  • edited October 9

    Haven’t seen a thread on this, so thought I’d make one. Seems to be (along with the Cosby case) as big as saville and yew tree over in Hollywood. Known for years this guy was an arrogant pos, now he’s a rapist pos. he’s even openly admitted to hurting people. Hollywood celebs are slowly coming out of the woodwork to condemn him after he was thrown out of his own company earlier by his own brother (who was rumoured to be the ny times leak last week).

    Discuss.

    I agree he sounds like an exploitative piece of shit who treated women horribly but I haven't heard anything about rape or violence come out yet, let alone anything that would put him in the Savile and Cosby bracket. Do you have a link to those allegations?
  • Haven’t seen a thread on this, so thought I’d make one. Seems to be (along with the Cosby case) as big as saville and yew tree over in Hollywood. Known for years this guy was an arrogant pos, now he’s a rapist pos. he’s even openly admitted to hurting people. Hollywood celebs are slowly coming out of the woodwork to condemn him after he was thrown out of his own company earlier by his own brother (who was rumoured to be the ny times leak last week).

    Discuss.

    I agree he sounds like an exploitative piece of shit who treated women horribly but I haven't heard anything about rape or violence come out yet, let alone anything that would put him in the Savile and Cosby bracket. Do you have a link to those allegations?
    There have been allegations of sexual assault in which he cornered a woman and masturbated in front of her.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/weinstein-sexual-harassment-allegation_us_59d7ea3de4b046f5ad984211
  • edited October 9
    Shock horror.....Hollywood movie mogul in sex probe scandal.....I’m trying hard to think of a time in my lifetime when there wasn’t one.
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  • edited October 9
    iainment said:

    Haven’t seen a thread on this, so thought I’d make one. Seems to be (along with the Cosby case) as big as saville and yew tree over in Hollywood. Known for years this guy was an arrogant pos, now he’s a rapist pos. he’s even openly admitted to hurting people. Hollywood celebs are slowly coming out of the woodwork to condemn him after he was thrown out of his own company earlier by his own brother (who was rumoured to be the ny times leak last week).

    Discuss.

    I really find posts with "Discuss." at the end quite pompous.
    Who do you think you are - a teacher? Are you going to mark our contributions?
    Do you really.....doesn’t bother me in the slightest, never give it a second thought as I’m pretty sure it doesn’t iainment either.
    How’s he being pompous for gods sake?
  • Shock horror.....Hollywood movie mogul in sex probe scandal.....I’m trying hard to think of a time in my lifetime when there wasn’t one.

    Really? Because I'd argue these kinds of things stay far too hidden for far too long. Can you name some of the abuse scandals you're thinking of?
  • SDAddick said:

    Shock horror.....Hollywood movie mogul in sex probe scandal.....I’m trying hard to think of a time in my lifetime when there wasn’t one.

    Really? Because I'd argue these kinds of things stay far too hidden for far too long. Can you name some of the abuse scandals you're thinking of?
    I think River Pheonix and his chum accused people in the past, and I'm sure there's been other rumours
  • His chum = Corey Feldman
  • You must have been on another planet mate....sex scandals and Hollywood go hand in hand and have been ongoing for donkeys years.
  • SDAddick said:

    Shock horror.....Hollywood movie mogul in sex probe scandal.....I’m trying hard to think of a time in my lifetime when there wasn’t one.

    Really? Because I'd argue these kinds of things stay far too hidden for far too long. Can you name some of the abuse scandals you're thinking of?
    I think River Pheonix and his chum accused people in the past, and I'm sure there's been other rumours
    True, that was 25- 30 years ago though. This and the Cosby revelations are quite close together, and there are various rumors and induendos, but unfortunately I struggle to think of many sustained claims outside of those.

    And this is not to say I don't think this kind of thing is not happening. Quite the opposite. I just don't know that it's so common as to be blase about it (and of course we should never be blase about sexual assault).
  • edited October 9

    You must have been on another planet mate....sex scandals and Hollywood go hand in hand and have been ongoing for donkeys years.

    I mean I grew up in Los Angeles... Some would argue that constitutes another planet.

    What I'm wondering is if you're confusing sex scandal and abuse scandal. Two adults having consentual sex is very, very, very different from someone using their power and sexually harassing and assaulting people over a number of years/decades.
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  • All sorts of stuff comes out of there on an ongoing basis, so much so that it’s difficult to know what is truth and what is fiction.
    To be honest, I learned to ignore it decades back.
  • All sorts of stuff comes out of there on an ongoing basis, so much so that it’s difficult to know what is truth and what is fiction.
    To be honest, I learned to ignore it decades back.

    OK...if I can make a recommendation it's by all means keep ignoring most things, but treat sexual harassment and assault allegations seriously.
  • edited October 10
    In deference to AFKA’s earlier post above I’m outa here.......I’ve already got myself embroiled more than i’d Intended.
  • iainment said:

    Haven’t seen a thread on this, so thought I’d make one. Seems to be (along with the Cosby case) as big as saville and yew tree over in Hollywood. Known for years this guy was an arrogant pos, now he’s a rapist pos. he’s even openly admitted to hurting people. Hollywood celebs are slowly coming out of the woodwork to condemn him after he was thrown out of his own company earlier by his own brother (who was rumoured to be the ny times leak last week).

    Discuss.

    I really find posts with "Discuss." at the end quite pompous.
    Who do you think you are - a teacher? Are you going to mark our contributions?
    U wot m8 ill smak u I swer on me nan
  • PWR ....who is Harvey Weinstein?
  • edited October 9
    SDAddick said:

    You must have been on another planet mate....sex scandals and Hollywood go hand in hand and have been ongoing for donkeys years.

    I mean I grew up in Los Angeles... Some would argue that constitutes another planet.

    What I'm wondering is if you're confusing sex scandal and abuse scandal. Two adults having consentual sex is very, very, very different from someone using their power and sexually harassing and assaulting people over a number of years/decades.
    It's an important distinction but the original point still stands, possibly inadvertently.

    Hollywood has a history of child exploitation that dates back to the early days and the studio system. MGM's treatment of Judy Garland for instance is a horrifying example of how wicked things could get.

    Rose MacGowan has been pretty blunt on the subject of Harvey Weinstein for some time. She very rightly criticised the women of Hollywood for not speaking up about him, and I'm appalled at the quotes from the likes of Streep and Dench, saying they knew nothing. I don't believe them for one moment, and they should be ashamed of themselves for trying to squirm out of it.

    Harvey could make or break careers. Not only did he abuse that, he has been consumed by it. The stories so far released speak to a man who felt he had an absolute right to do as he pleased. It's a culture for him, and I believe many others at a variety of levels.

    While this may be the tip of the iceberg, I don't think we'll ever hear the true extent of what really goes on in Hollywood. Corey Feldman seems pretty sincere when he talks about how he and Corey Haim were mistreated (their argument on this subject in the otherwise-trash reality TV show, The Two Coreys, is heartbreaking), and Elijah Wood, not one to court controversy, said there's a darkness in the industry that nobody outside of it sees. I've heard a few unrepeatable stories, with one director's behaviour so reprehensible, I no longer watch any of his films!
  • JiMMy 85 said:

    SDAddick said:

    You must have been on another planet mate....sex scandals and Hollywood go hand in hand and have been ongoing for donkeys years.

    I mean I grew up in Los Angeles... Some would argue that constitutes another planet.

    What I'm wondering is if you're confusing sex scandal and abuse scandal. Two adults having consentual sex is very, very, very different from someone using their power and sexually harassing and assaulting people over a number of years/decades.
    It's an important distinction but the original point still stands, possibly inadvertently.

    Hollywood has a history of child exploitation that dates back to the early days and the studio system. MGM's treatment of Judy Garland for instance is a horrifying example of how wicked things could get.

    Rose MacGowan has been pretty blunt on the subject of Harvey Weinstein for some time. She very rightly criticised the women of Hollywood for not speaking up about him, and I'm appalled at the quotes from the likes of Streep and Dench, saying they knew nothing. I don't believe them for one moment, and they should be ashamed of themselves for trying to squirm out of it.

    Harvey could make or break careers. Not only did he abuse that, he has been consumed by it. The stories so far released speak to a man who felt he had an absolute right to do as he pleased. It's a culture for him, and I believe many others at a variety of levels.

    While this may be the tip of the iceberg, I don't think we'll ever hear the true extent of what really goes on in Hollywood. Corey Feldman seems pretty sincere when he talks about how he and Corey Haim were mistreated (their argument on this subject in the otherwise-trash reality TV show, The Two Coreys, is heartbreaking), and Elijah Wood, not one to court controversy, said there's a darkness in the industry that nobody outside of it sees. I've heard a few unrepeatable stories, with one director's behaviour so reprehensible, I no longer watch any of his films!
    I absolutely agree with almost all of that. I don't think that was the original point, and that's what I was trying to get at. What I don't want this to become is something that is seen or treated as on par with something like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with the babysitter (? was that it?), i.e. more Hollywood fodder for the gossip pages.

    But completely agree regarding child exploitation, regarding blatant sexism, racism, people in power using that power exploitatively, this list could go on for quite some time.

    There is one point I don't necessarily agree with, and that's the idea of blaming women for not speaking up (be they victims or just women in general). The person who should be blamed here is Harvey Weinstein. If anyone helped to cover up these allegations, then they should be blamed too. But I think it's wrong that oftentimes people default to "women should have spoken up." Anyone who knew should have spoken up. But that should not deflect blame away from the person who committed these acts (potentially crimes).

    Amber Tamblyn had a really good piece on her experience with speaking up against sexual harassment in Hollywood, and how it was dismissed out of hand.
    Amber Tamblyn: I’m Done With Not Being Believed
    https://nyti.ms/2jyKw9a
  • Do we have to :-(

    Considering he’s openly admitted to having a problem sexually assaulting people, I think surely there’s not much legal Grey area?
    I think AFKA was possibly just frustrated that this was being discussed on a football forum, but I could be wrong.
  • SDAddick said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    SDAddick said:

    You must have been on another planet mate....sex scandals and Hollywood go hand in hand and have been ongoing for donkeys years.

    I mean I grew up in Los Angeles... Some would argue that constitutes another planet.

    What I'm wondering is if you're confusing sex scandal and abuse scandal. Two adults having consentual sex is very, very, very different from someone using their power and sexually harassing and assaulting people over a number of years/decades.
    It's an important distinction but the original point still stands, possibly inadvertently.

    Hollywood has a history of child exploitation that dates back to the early days and the studio system. MGM's treatment of Judy Garland for instance is a horrifying example of how wicked things could get.

    Rose MacGowan has been pretty blunt on the subject of Harvey Weinstein for some time. She very rightly criticised the women of Hollywood for not speaking up about him, and I'm appalled at the quotes from the likes of Streep and Dench, saying they knew nothing. I don't believe them for one moment, and they should be ashamed of themselves for trying to squirm out of it.

    Harvey could make or break careers. Not only did he abuse that, he has been consumed by it. The stories so far released speak to a man who felt he had an absolute right to do as he pleased. It's a culture for him, and I believe many others at a variety of levels.

    While this may be the tip of the iceberg, I don't think we'll ever hear the true extent of what really goes on in Hollywood. Corey Feldman seems pretty sincere when he talks about how he and Corey Haim were mistreated (their argument on this subject in the otherwise-trash reality TV show, The Two Coreys, is heartbreaking), and Elijah Wood, not one to court controversy, said there's a darkness in the industry that nobody outside of it sees. I've heard a few unrepeatable stories, with one director's behaviour so reprehensible, I no longer watch any of his films!
    There is one point I don't necessarily agree with, and that's the idea of blaming women for not speaking up (be they victims or just women in general). The person who should be blamed here is Harvey Weinstein. If anyone helped to cover up these allegations, then they should be blamed too. But I think it's wrong that oftentimes people default to "women should have spoken up." Anyone who knew should have spoken up. But that should not deflect blame away from the person who committed these acts (potentially crimes).
    Clearly Harvey is the villain here, and I am not trying to imply anyone else is as guilty, or even complicit. There are plenty of people who would have covered up Weinstein's actions, but we don't know who they are.

    A huge number of actors and ctresses would have been aware, and would have feared for their careers had they breathed a word, and nobody can blame them for that, that was how Harvey Weinstein operated. But Streep is a different case entirely. She's arguably one of the most powerful actresses in the history of Hollywood, who once called Weinstein her "god", so I find it insulting to suggest she had no clue what he was like.

    I think the likes of Ashley Judd and MacGowan were ostracised from Hollywood, and not given any support by the people now claiming to be in shock at the revelations. If Streep hadn't said anything I probably wouldn't pick on her, but by releasing a statement a day after the revelations, I think she's put herself in the mix.
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