One of main problems of the local 'derbies' that we sell out is that, if you find yourself surrounded by a bunch of complete idiots, there is no scope for sitting or standing elsewhere. A bit of swearing and abuse is to be expected at football but, when it is incessant and utterly mindless, it becomes both unacceptable and utterly banal. Standing doesn't bother me personally but it's a real problem for older people and kids.
To compound matters, the local pubs tend to be 'home only' for these type of games and the whole experience can become pretty joyless. It's certainly not my idea of a good away day.
Following the nonsense over at Crystal Palace two years ago, I've pretty much decided to give these games a swerve unless they are particularly important at that stage of the season. I'd rather spend my time and money heading up to a northern outpost or to a 'new' ground for me.
Took my lad on Saturday and we were directly in front of the lad and his mates that got nicked for the flare.
Found it quite ironic that he is from Faversham bearing in mind the abuse he was giving the Gills fans for their travelling community heritage..
On a more serious point my lad knew he was going to be stood on his seat all game and shouldn't repeat the language he heard so no issues there but we haven't half got some slags following us for these local away games now.
Im all for getting a few beers in before the game as that creates the atmosphere but don't get the need to throw flares in daylight (cringey and very Palace), break seats for a 'laugh' and just generally act a prick.
Maybe im getting old, or just not a moron?
Lucky you, last time I was in front of the flare lighters (Walsall away last year) the boys in blue decided to pull me out for it!
I believe over the past few years a new group of 'herberts' has attached themselves to the club, 50-60 of them. Predominantly at away games and Mick E is slowly eking them out.
I do take my daughters, all be it they are 14 & 17 now so not as if they haven't heard the words before, although the wife refuses to come anymore (not that she's a football fan anyway, normally misses the goals as reading her kindle ).
I agree with the OP, you go to football and you do expect to hear strong language, but it's language for the sake of it in the last few years and giving pelters to our own players often for little or no reason. For me it's not so much the words but the aggressive nature of it.
I can remember going season after season to almost every away game in the early 90's, plenty of language and loads of banter but never anywhere near as bad as the aggressive nature you hear it the last few years. Northampton last year springs to mind, hardly a local derby.
It's because no-one takes ecstacy anymore like they did in the early 90s!!
I couldn't imagine anything worse than coming up during a football game
Wouldn't take my little boy to Palarase & Smallwall (home or away) or gills away I know who it attracts and what will happen, always does, always will
Didn't used to though. I agree with you, won't go to local away games now as our support has become just like everything I used to hate about Millwall's.
I'm afraid it did used to. About 45 years ago in the Kent cup Gillingham was left looking like Aleppo and the train back was dismantled by the time it got to Charlton.
Indeed it was ... accompanied with much profanity.
Saturday was a picnic compared to some of our awaydays in the 70's
Exactly it appears to be failing , must be full up at your ground and we catching the overflow, I'm just hoping it's a case of when in Rome for these divs who turn up at Gills and Zampa farm
It was quite full on Saturday but still plenty of room for the lesser of the other 22 cup finals we've got this season.
I think it all stems from this generation of fans, particularly the youngsters, being a lot less forgiving/patient than we used to be.
Hmm. First time I went to the old Toolbox was actually as a neutral, dragged there by a Millwall supporting schoolmate. It was a nothing game, we were standing on a half empty terrace on one side of the pitch.
There was a bloke behind me with his mate. Mid 30's, not at all drunk as far as i could tell. He had only one observation to make about the unfolding goalless draw, but he repeated it, I reckon, 50 times. Therefore I can remember it like it was yesterday, as a 15 year old, your brain is quick to absorb repetition. His observation was
"Whassa facking marrer wi' you, ref? You're a fackin' W---ER!" (emphasis on the final word)
That would be 47 years ago...
In other words, no different to what we heard in the Covered End at that time.
I know, but it was the fact he shouted this 50 times, and really, nothing else, and we were in one of the side stands. Good job that nothing happened in the following 47 years to make me think he was typical :-)
To be honest I complete agree with @Swisdom . I wouldn't take my kids (when I have them eventually) to any away games for the reasons given. It's a massive shame and let's be honest here, there is no need for all of that language especially with kids around. I'll quite happily label people throwing smoke bombs and flares as morons as are those using the c word in front of kids. I know I will get pelters but hey, that's fine. Nothing wrong with getting drunk and having fun but there must be a line surely.
Where's that tin hat?
I may be wrong and if so I apologise in advance, but I got the distinct feeling you were supportive of the Cologne fans behaviour ?
I didn't see Charlton fans throwing bottles around town, attacking stewards, trying to break into the ground, even though there were hundreds outside after kick off and nor did they try and invade the home ends. #justsaying.
NB Anyone taking little kids to an away derby game is somewhat naive/out of touch.
I would never have taken my little 'uns to a derby game apart from say Watford, Orient, Brentford or Barnet (obviously).
No you were quite right but was meaning the majority of them who were peaceful but loud. Definitely do not condone anyone trying to attack stewards, throwing bottles, invading home ends with force etc.
Well I think we agree that no one has any issue with the majority of well behaved fans of any club.
The issues are with the minority of misbehaving fans.
Personally I think cocaine may play a part as there were definitely some guys doing coke in the pub toilet, although I couldn't say they were Charlton fans for sure.
Took my lad on Saturday and we were directly in front of the lad and his mates that got nicked for the flare.
Found it quite ironic that he is from Faversham bearing in mind the abuse he was giving the Gills fans for their travelling community heritage..
On a more serious point my lad knew he was going to be stood on his seat all game and shouldn't repeat the language he heard so no issues there but we haven't half got some slags following us for these local away games now.
Im all for getting a few beers in before the game as that creates the atmosphere but don't get the need to throw flares in daylight (cringey and very Palace), break seats for a 'laugh' and just generally act a prick.
Maybe im getting old, or just not a moron?
Lucky you, last time I was in front of the flare lighters (Walsall away last year) the boys in blue decided to pull me out for it!
I believe over the past few years a new group of 'herberts' has attached themselves to the club, 50-60 of them. Predominantly at away games and Mick E is slowly eking them out.
I do take my daughters, all be it they are 14 & 17 now so not as if they haven't heard the words before, although the wife refuses to come anymore (not that she's a football fan anyway, normally misses the goals as reading her kindle ).
I agree with the OP, you go to football and you do expect to hear strong language, but it's language for the sake of it in the last few years and giving pelters to our own players often for little or no reason. For me it's not so much the words but the aggressive nature of it.
I can remember going season after season to almost every away game in the early 90's, plenty of language and loads of banter but never anywhere near as bad as the aggressive nature you hear it the last few years. Northampton last year springs to mind, hardly a local derby.
It's because no-one takes ecstacy anymore like they did in the early 90s!!
I couldn't imagine anything worse than coming up during a football game
I took one on the coach on the way to Newcastle for the 4 3 game, just as we stopped at Catterick for a beer. Had another half just as we got to the ground and left the other half for when we got back on after the game. Was a great day out all round
Took my lad on Saturday and we were directly in front of the lad and his mates that got nicked for the flare.
Found it quite ironic that he is from Faversham bearing in mind the abuse he was giving the Gills fans for their travelling community heritage..
On a more serious point my lad knew he was going to be stood on his seat all game and shouldn't repeat the language he heard so no issues there but we haven't half got some slags following us for these local away games now.
Im all for getting a few beers in before the game as that creates the atmosphere but don't get the need to throw flares in daylight (cringey and very Palace), break seats for a 'laugh' and just generally act a prick.
Maybe im getting old, or just not a moron?
Lucky you, last time I was in front of the flare lighters (Walsall away last year) the boys in blue decided to pull me out for it!
I believe over the past few years a new group of 'herberts' has attached themselves to the club, 50-60 of them. Predominantly at away games and Mick E is slowly eking them out.
I do take my daughters, all be it they are 14 & 17 now so not as if they haven't heard the words before, although the wife refuses to come anymore (not that she's a football fan anyway, normally misses the goals as reading her kindle ).
I agree with the OP, you go to football and you do expect to hear strong language, but it's language for the sake of it in the last few years and giving pelters to our own players often for little or no reason. For me it's not so much the words but the aggressive nature of it.
I can remember going season after season to almost every away game in the early 90's, plenty of language and loads of banter but never anywhere near as bad as the aggressive nature you hear it the last few years. Northampton last year springs to mind, hardly a local derby.
It's because no-one takes ecstacy anymore like they did in the early 90s!!
I couldn't imagine anything worse than coming up during a football game
I took one on the coach on the way to Newcastle for the 4 3 game, just as we stopped at Catterick for a beer. Had another half just as we got to the ground and left the other half for when we got back on after the game. Was a great day out all round
Took my lad on Saturday and we were directly in front of the lad and his mates that got nicked for the flare.
Found it quite ironic that he is from Faversham bearing in mind the abuse he was giving the Gills fans for their travelling community heritage..
On a more serious point my lad knew he was going to be stood on his seat all game and shouldn't repeat the language he heard so no issues there but we haven't half got some slags following us for these local away games now.
Im all for getting a few beers in before the game as that creates the atmosphere but don't get the need to throw flares in daylight (cringey and very Palace), break seats for a 'laugh' and just generally act a prick.
Maybe im getting old, or just not a moron?
Lucky you, last time I was in front of the flare lighters (Walsall away last year) the boys in blue decided to pull me out for it!
I believe over the past few years a new group of 'herberts' has attached themselves to the club, 50-60 of them. Predominantly at away games and Mick E is slowly eking them out.
I do take my daughters, all be it they are 14 & 17 now so not as if they haven't heard the words before, although the wife refuses to come anymore (not that she's a football fan anyway, normally misses the goals as reading her kindle ).
I agree with the OP, you go to football and you do expect to hear strong language, but it's language for the sake of it in the last few years and giving pelters to our own players often for little or no reason. For me it's not so much the words but the aggressive nature of it.
I can remember going season after season to almost every away game in the early 90's, plenty of language and loads of banter but never anywhere near as bad as the aggressive nature you hear it the last few years. Northampton last year springs to mind, hardly a local derby.
It's because no-one takes ecstacy anymore like they did in the early 90s!!
I couldn't imagine anything worse than coming up during a football game
I took one on the coach on the way to Newcastle for the 4 3 game, just as we stopped at Catterick for a beer. Had another half just as we got to the ground and left the other half for when we got back on after the game. Was a great day out all round
Fuck that. What if it kicked off.
Winning 4 3 at Newcastle after being 3 down? No chance of it kicking off!
Took my lad on Saturday and we were directly in front of the lad and his mates that got nicked for the flare.
Found it quite ironic that he is from Faversham bearing in mind the abuse he was giving the Gills fans for their travelling community heritage..
On a more serious point my lad knew he was going to be stood on his seat all game and shouldn't repeat the language he heard so no issues there but we haven't half got some slags following us for these local away games now.
Im all for getting a few beers in before the game as that creates the atmosphere but don't get the need to throw flares in daylight (cringey and very Palace), break seats for a 'laugh' and just generally act a prick.
Maybe im getting old, or just not a moron?
Lucky you, last time I was in front of the flare lighters (Walsall away last year) the boys in blue decided to pull me out for it!
I believe over the past few years a new group of 'herberts' has attached themselves to the club, 50-60 of them. Predominantly at away games and Mick E is slowly eking them out.
I do take my daughters, all be it they are 14 & 17 now so not as if they haven't heard the words before, although the wife refuses to come anymore (not that she's a football fan anyway, normally misses the goals as reading her kindle ).
I agree with the OP, you go to football and you do expect to hear strong language, but it's language for the sake of it in the last few years and giving pelters to our own players often for little or no reason. For me it's not so much the words but the aggressive nature of it.
I can remember going season after season to almost every away game in the early 90's, plenty of language and loads of banter but never anywhere near as bad as the aggressive nature you hear it the last few years. Northampton last year springs to mind, hardly a local derby.
It's because no-one takes ecstacy anymore like they did in the early 90s!!
I couldn't imagine anything worse than coming up during a football game
I took one on the coach on the way to Newcastle for the 4 3 game, just as we stopped at Catterick for a beer. Had another half just as we got to the ground and left the other half for when we got back on after the game. Was a great day out all round
Fuck that. What if it kicked off.
Winning 4 3 at Newcastle after being 3 down? No chance of it kicking off!
Took my lad on Saturday and we were directly in front of the lad and his mates that got nicked for the flare.
Found it quite ironic that he is from Faversham bearing in mind the abuse he was giving the Gills fans for their travelling community heritage..
On a more serious point my lad knew he was going to be stood on his seat all game and shouldn't repeat the language he heard so no issues there but we haven't half got some slags following us for these local away games now.
Im all for getting a few beers in before the game as that creates the atmosphere but don't get the need to throw flares in daylight (cringey and very Palace), break seats for a 'laugh' and just generally act a prick.
Maybe im getting old, or just not a moron?
Lucky you, last time I was in front of the flare lighters (Walsall away last year) the boys in blue decided to pull me out for it!
I believe over the past few years a new group of 'herberts' has attached themselves to the club, 50-60 of them. Predominantly at away games and Mick E is slowly eking them out.
I do take my daughters, all be it they are 14 & 17 now so not as if they haven't heard the words before, although the wife refuses to come anymore (not that she's a football fan anyway, normally misses the goals as reading her kindle ).
I agree with the OP, you go to football and you do expect to hear strong language, but it's language for the sake of it in the last few years and giving pelters to our own players often for little or no reason. For me it's not so much the words but the aggressive nature of it.
I can remember going season after season to almost every away game in the early 90's, plenty of language and loads of banter but never anywhere near as bad as the aggressive nature you hear it the last few years. Northampton last year springs to mind, hardly a local derby.
It's because no-one takes ecstacy anymore like they did in the early 90s!!
I couldn't imagine anything worse than coming up during a football game
I took one on the coach on the way to Newcastle for the 4 3 game, just as we stopped at Catterick for a beer. Had another half just as we got to the ground and left the other half for when we got back on after the game. Was a great day out all round
Fuck that. What if it kicked off.
Winning 4 3 at Newcastle after being 3 down? No chance of it kicking off!
PWR. Went to Gillingham for a football match. Had a great day had a bottle of white lightning and fag in town then on to the ground. Waited a while to get in called everyone a cxxt. Through a few flares to lighten up the place. Left the ground after a defeat. Walked back to the station punched a few cars. Went home started a few tranfer rumours on twitter. Went to bed. Got up today for school. What a weekend. Roll on Wigan away
May i make a suggestion to anyone taking film footage of these idiots. They pass it on to the kent police and to charlton football club... They dont deserve to be called charlton supporters
Wouldn't take my little boy to Palarase & Smallwall (home or away) or gills away I know who it attracts and what will happen, always does, always will
Didn't used to though. I agree with you, won't go to local away games now as our support has become just like everything I used to hate about Millwall's.
I'm afraid it did used to. About 45 years ago in the Kent cup Gillingham was left looking like Aleppo and the train back was dismantled by the time it got to Charlton.
Took my lad on Saturday and we were directly in front of the lad and his mates that got nicked for the flare.
Found it quite ironic that he is from Faversham bearing in mind the abuse he was giving the Gills fans for their travelling community heritage..
On a more serious point my lad knew he was going to be stood on his seat all game and shouldn't repeat the language he heard so no issues there but we haven't half got some slags following us for these local away games now.
Im all for getting a few beers in before the game as that creates the atmosphere but don't get the need to throw flares in daylight (cringey and very Palace), break seats for a 'laugh' and just generally act a prick.
Maybe im getting old, or just not a moron?
Lucky you, last time I was in front of the flare lighters (Walsall away last year) the boys in blue decided to pull me out for it!
I believe over the past few years a new group of 'herberts' has attached themselves to the club, 50-60 of them. Predominantly at away games and Mick E is slowly eking them out.
I do take my daughters, all be it they are 14 & 17 now so not as if they haven't heard the words before, although the wife refuses to come anymore (not that she's a football fan anyway, normally misses the goals as reading her kindle ).
I agree with the OP, you go to football and you do expect to hear strong language, but it's language for the sake of it in the last few years and giving pelters to our own players often for little or no reason. For me it's not so much the words but the aggressive nature of it.
I can remember going season after season to almost every away game in the early 90's, plenty of language and loads of banter but never anywhere near as bad as the aggressive nature you hear it the last few years. Northampton last year springs to mind, hardly a local derby.
It's because no-one takes ecstacy anymore like they did in the early 90s!!
I couldn't imagine anything worse than coming up during a football game
I took one on the coach on the way to Newcastle for the 4 3 game, just as we stopped at Catterick for a beer. Had another half just as we got to the ground and left the other half for when we got back on after the game. Was a great day out all round
Fuck that. What if it kicked off.
A friend of mine used to go to Chelsea in the pre-abramovich era. Him and his mate were on their way to the game one evening and he realised he had a lump of hash in his pocket. This was the forth round replay game against millwall in the mid-nineties and there were so many police and police dogs about they thought it would be better to eat the hash prior to being searched.
At half time he felt a little stoned, after ninety minutes it was really starting to kick in and after extra time and penalties he was in a semi-coma. Millwall won 5-4 on penalties and the place erupted. He was sat in the east stand next to the away fans (this was about the time they had demolished the shed) there were pitch invasions, police horses trying to keep everyone apart, etc and him and his mate sat there through it not knowing what was going on. He remembers fellas climbing over him to try and get at the millwall fans, chairs flying around as he just sat there.
It wasn't until he turned the news on the next day did he realise what he had been going on around him.
Took my lad on Saturday and we were directly in front of the lad and his mates that got nicked for the flare.
Found it quite ironic that he is from Faversham bearing in mind the abuse he was giving the Gills fans for their travelling community heritage..
On a more serious point my lad knew he was going to be stood on his seat all game and shouldn't repeat the language he heard so no issues there but we haven't half got some slags following us for these local away games now.
Im all for getting a few beers in before the game as that creates the atmosphere but don't get the need to throw flares in daylight (cringey and very Palace), break seats for a 'laugh' and just generally act a prick.
Maybe im getting old, or just not a moron?
Lucky you, last time I was in front of the flare lighters (Walsall away last year) the boys in blue decided to pull me out for it!
I believe over the past few years a new group of 'herberts' has attached themselves to the club, 50-60 of them. Predominantly at away games and Mick E is slowly eking them out.
I do take my daughters, all be it they are 14 & 17 now so not as if they haven't heard the words before, although the wife refuses to come anymore (not that she's a football fan anyway, normally misses the goals as reading her kindle ).
I agree with the OP, you go to football and you do expect to hear strong language, but it's language for the sake of it in the last few years and giving pelters to our own players often for little or no reason. For me it's not so much the words but the aggressive nature of it.
I can remember going season after season to almost every away game in the early 90's, plenty of language and loads of banter but never anywhere near as bad as the aggressive nature you hear it the last few years. Northampton last year springs to mind, hardly a local derby.
It's because no-one takes ecstacy anymore like they did in the early 90s!!
I couldn't imagine anything worse than coming up during a football game
I took one on the coach on the way to Newcastle for the 4 3 game, just as we stopped at Catterick for a beer. Had another half just as we got to the ground and left the other half for when we got back on after the game. Was a great day out all round
I skipped the game as I knew the whole experience would be unpleasant, local(ish) games do bring out an unpleasant element to our support. And with a "traditional" ground surrounded by streets you also get the aggro before and after the game, with confrontations between fans, mindless vandalism etc
It's not a new thing, I remember back in the Parkinson days the police getting involved after some incidents at away matches, Walsall in particular
Next time people want to moan about our away support come back and read this thread. So don't moan about lack of away numbers.
The shit away numbers are nothing to do with millwall, palace or gillingham away because it's not rocket science that those type of fixtures will sadly mean the helmet element increases unfortunately .
so as a father of 4 boys 5-11 years old i choose not to take them to these fixtures because of the aggro and shit behaviour that will more than likely occur
of course it's not right that they can't go there or any other fans but don't use shit behaviour at these grounds as an excuse for us bringing shit numbers to the other 80% of away fixtures where there is room for people to stand , sit , count the away fans , read, write , drink bovril, cuddle up under a blanket and do whatever they want in the roomy stands .
try these places out if you can , i understand travel is a problem but these far flung grounds are a much better experience than the local ones , why? cos plenty of people are c***s and the less about the less chance of bumping in to one
Took my lad on Saturday and we were directly in front of the lad and his mates that got nicked for the flare.
Found it quite ironic that he is from Faversham bearing in mind the abuse he was giving the Gills fans for their travelling community heritage..
On a more serious point my lad knew he was going to be stood on his seat all game and shouldn't repeat the language he heard so no issues there but we haven't half got some slags following us for these local away games now.
Im all for getting a few beers in before the game as that creates the atmosphere but don't get the need to throw flares in daylight (cringey and very Palace), break seats for a 'laugh' and just generally act a prick.
Maybe im getting old, or just not a moron?
Lucky you, last time I was in front of the flare lighters (Walsall away last year) the boys in blue decided to pull me out for it!
I believe over the past few years a new group of 'herberts' has attached themselves to the club, 50-60 of them. Predominantly at away games and Mick E is slowly eking them out.
I do take my daughters, all be it they are 14 & 17 now so not as if they haven't heard the words before, although the wife refuses to come anymore (not that she's a football fan anyway, normally misses the goals as reading her kindle ).
I agree with the OP, you go to football and you do expect to hear strong language, but it's language for the sake of it in the last few years and giving pelters to our own players often for little or no reason. For me it's not so much the words but the aggressive nature of it.
I can remember going season after season to almost every away game in the early 90's, plenty of language and loads of banter but never anywhere near as bad as the aggressive nature you hear it the last few years. Northampton last year springs to mind, hardly a local derby.
It's because no-one takes ecstacy anymore like they did in the early 90s!!
I couldn't imagine anything worse than coming up during a football game
I took one on the coach on the way to Newcastle for the 4 3 game, just as we stopped at Catterick for a beer. Had another half just as we got to the ground and left the other half for when we got back on after the game. Was a great day out all round
Was you on Barry's coach that day mehmet
Probably. @northstandsteve was with us and will probably have a clearer memory of the day
I got lucky insofar as I didn't have any morons in my immediate vicinity. The Steward who we met told us to sit anywhere, although he clearly wasn't doing this consistently as many who followed us were looking intently for their specified seat, including the one I had chosen to sit on. Luckily the other chap and I resolved this with good humour (well I laughed as I decked himkidding). I did find the flare throwing distasteful though and one of them went awful close to their goalie Really, what is the point - your club suffers, you suffer. Brainless.
So is it just the C word that people are getting the jump about (in swearing only).
The use of that word now is no more shocking than some of the other swear words were 10/20 years ago. Language evolves and the shocking use of shit and fuckers of yesteryear barely register today.
So is it just the C word that people are getting the hump about (in swearing only).
The use of that word now is no more shocking than some of the other swear words were 10/20 years ago. Language evolves and the shocking use of shit and fuckers of yesteryear barely register today.
The same as C*** won't raise an eyebrow soon.
It is just another word.
The difference is such language used to be aimed at the opposition fans, not our own players as it is now. Such hatred for our team I really don't get.
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Whoever he was he thought he was hard where in reality he is a total wanker
To compound matters, the local pubs tend to be 'home only' for these type of games and the whole experience can become pretty joyless. It's certainly not my idea of a good away day.
Following the nonsense over at Crystal Palace two years ago, I've pretty much decided to give these games a swerve unless they are particularly important at that stage of the season. I'd rather spend my time and money heading up to a northern outpost or to a 'new' ground for me.
Saturday was a picnic compared to some of our awaydays in the 70's
The issues are with the minority of misbehaving fans.
Personally I think cocaine may play a part as there were definitely some guys doing coke in the pub toilet, although I couldn't say they were Charlton fans for sure.
What if it kicked off.
A friend of mine used to go to Chelsea in the pre-abramovich era. Him and his mate were on their way to the game one evening and he realised he had a lump of hash in his pocket. This was the forth round replay game against millwall in the mid-nineties and there were so many police and police dogs about they thought it would be better to eat the hash prior to being searched.
At half time he felt a little stoned, after ninety minutes it was really starting to kick in and after extra time and penalties he was in a semi-coma. Millwall won 5-4 on penalties and the place erupted. He was sat in the east stand next to the away fans (this was about the time they had demolished the shed) there were pitch invasions, police horses trying to keep everyone apart, etc and him and his mate sat there through it not knowing what was going on. He remembers fellas climbing over him to try and get at the millwall fans, chairs flying around as he just sat there.
It wasn't until he turned the news on the next day did he realise what he had been going on around him.
It's not a new thing, I remember back in the Parkinson days the police getting involved after some incidents at away matches, Walsall in particular
so as a father of 4 boys 5-11 years old i choose not to take them to these fixtures because of the aggro and shit behaviour that will more than likely occur
of course it's not right that they can't go there or any other fans but don't use shit behaviour at these grounds as an excuse for us bringing shit numbers to the other 80% of away fixtures where there is room for people to stand , sit , count the away fans , read, write , drink bovril, cuddle up under a blanket and do whatever they want in the roomy stands .
try these places out if you can , i understand travel is a problem but these far flung grounds are a much better experience than the local ones , why? cos plenty of people are c***s and the less about the less chance of bumping in to one
The Steward who we met told us to sit anywhere, although he clearly wasn't doing this consistently as many who followed us were looking intently for their specified seat, including the one I had chosen to sit on. Luckily the other chap and I resolved this with good humour (
well I laughed as I decked himkidding).I did find the flare throwing distasteful though and one of them went awful close to their goalie Really, what is the point - your club suffers, you suffer. Brainless.
The use of that word now is no more shocking than some of the other swear words were 10/20 years ago. Language evolves and the shocking use of shit and fuckers of yesteryear barely register today.
The same as C*** won't raise an eyebrow soon.
It is just another word.