Sad for the Sunderland fans. I have everlasting respect and affection for them after the Play Off Final.
Been a long time coming though. Inevitable that they would go down sooner or later.
I went out to see a play today and was sat next to a couple of girls who were clearly together. Their accent was close to that of a real friend of mine and her mam who are/were maccams.
Turned out they came from just up the road to Sunderland and they remembered the play off final without me mentioning it.
Lot of respect for the maccams (not the club)</blockquote A bunch for sure. I fear for them next season as well.
On paper David Moyes sounded like a good manager to take them over and carry on the good work that Big Sam did. Ok Moyes didn't do it at man United but they are in a different league in terms of what they expect. And maybe a toughie in Spain. Buts seeing what he did with Everton it sounded good. But maybe the club was on a doowner. How would Big Sam have done?
On paper David Moyes sounded like a good manager to take them over and carry on the good work that Big Sam did. Ok Moyes didn't do it at man United but they are in a different league in terms of what they expect. And maybe a toughie in Spain. Buts seeing what he did with Everton it sounded good. But maybe the club was on a doowner. How would Big Sam have done?
Surely a lot better. When Allardyce took over Palace at christmas they'd lost something like 8 out of 10 game and were only 3 points off the bottom. The gap between them and Sunderland is now 17 points.
On paper David Moyes sounded like a good manager to take them over and carry on the good work that Big Sam did. Ok Moyes didn't do it at man United but they are in a different league in terms of what they expect. And maybe a toughie in Spain. Buts seeing what he did with Everton it sounded good. But maybe the club was on a doowner. How would Big Sam have done?
Surely a lot better. When Allardyce took over Palace at christmas they'd lost something like 8 out of 10 game and were only 3 points off the bottom. The gap between them and Sunderland is now 17 points.
Relegation is the best thing for Sunderland. Every year they've survived it's given another year of service to absolute jokers like Cattermole, Larsson, O'Shea and the rest. Players who signed for Sunderland on outrageous salaries and then decided not to bother being footballers anymore. The board also went to the Meire school of negotiating and had players like Fletcher on what felt like 400 year contracts that they couldn't shift. At least by going down they can clear out the useless lumps who were happy to sit and pick up their paychecks and they have the chance to rebuild
A more spectacular decline than our own after dropping out of The Premier League. You have to wonder how they're going to turn things around from here.
I think we're meant to be mates with them so don't speak too harshly. They let us get in the Premiership and then scored all our goals for us that one time
Looking at Stoke tonight for example, they’re likely to go down with an awful lot of shit on big wages in the same way Sunderland did. It’s really the ugly side of modern football for me. English clubs handing over silly money for some shit subprime foreign talent, and then getting relegated for the privilege of it
I was looking at Stoke’s team and thinking, I don’t know who some of these players are and they’re gonna be off as soon as relegation is confirmed, whilst if you’re a fan, your club are likely gonna have to start again etc. Some of them don’t even leave. They drop down into the championship and become even more abysmal. It’s when I get wound up for young English talent
I bet our away fixture at Sunderland will be on a Tuesday night
Agree, that's usually how our luck pans out.
The clubs do have some say on when fixtures take place, or are at least allowed to make requests. Would have thought both us and them would want it on a Saturday, maximise gate receipts for one of the more attractive/least unappealing fixtures.
I bet our away fixture at Sunderland will be on a Tuesday night
Agree, that's usually how our luck pans out.
The clubs do have some say on when fixtures take place, or are at least allowed to make requests. Would have thought both us and them would want it on a Saturday, maximise gate receipts for one of the more attractive/least unappealing fixtures.
I bet our away fixture at Sunderland will be on a Tuesday night
Agree, that's usually how our luck pans out.
The clubs do have some say on when fixtures take place, or are at least allowed to make requests. Would have thought both us and them would want it on a Saturday, maximise gate receipts for one of the more attractive/least unappealing fixtures.
Will you go by train?
For one night only South Eastern are taking over the east coast mainline service for him. Mr Largo marooned at Lincoln at around 4.36pm, he doesn’t make the stadium of Light
As long as he’s marooned somewhere a’la his daily commute that’s all that matters
Clearly if I was stranded on East Coast Mainline it could only be at Grantham, the birthplace of Maggie Thatcher, who laid the foundations for her successors to flog off our rail network to the likes of South Eastern.
And if I was stranded in Grantham, I can assure you that the sounds of a Revenue Protection Officer being given an enema with his own blood would travel all the way to the Stadium of Light.
Looking at Stoke tonight for example, they’re likely to go down with an awful lot of shit on big wages in the same way Sunderland did. It’s really the ugly side of modern football for me. English clubs handing over silly money for some shit subprime foreign talent, and then getting relegated for the privilege of it
I was looking at Stoke’s team and thinking, I don’t know who some of these players are and they’re gonna be off as soon as relegation is confirmed, whilst if you’re a fan, your club are likely gonna have to start again etc. Some of them don’t even leave. They drop down into the championship and become even more abysmal. It’s when I get wound up for young English talent
For Sunderland this year, look at Stoke for next year.
They will have the devils own job getting some of those higher paid players off the payroll, and as you say most of them will be happy to graze lazily in the Championship for a while.
Meanwhile all of the laonees (Kurt Zouma) will return to their parent clubs will pockets full of cash, and caring not a jot for the club they have left behind.
Similar with West Brom - how many of those players will thrive in the Championship?
Funnily enough Southampton will probably come staright back up, as they are armed with bundles of cash from sales of players like Van Djik, and also have just about the best youth policy in the country.
Relegation is the best thing for Sunderland. Every year they've survived it's given another year of service to absolute jokers like Cattermole, Larsson, O'Shea and the rest. Players who signed for Sunderland on outrageous salaries and then decided not to bother being footballers anymore. The board also went to the Meire school of negotiating and had players like Fletcher on what felt like 400 year contracts that they couldn't shift. At least by going down they can clear out the useless lumps who were happy to sit and pick up their paychecks and they have the chance to rebuild
Looking at Stoke tonight for example, they’re likely to go down with an awful lot of shit on big wages in the same way Sunderland did. It’s really the ugly side of modern football for me. English clubs handing over silly money for some shit subprime foreign talent, and then getting relegated for the privilege of it
I was looking at Stoke’s team and thinking, I don’t know who some of these players are and they’re gonna be off as soon as relegation is confirmed, whilst if you’re a fan, your club are likely gonna have to start again etc. Some of them don’t even leave. They drop down into the championship and become even more abysmal. It’s when I get wound up for young English talent
But they also have someone like Shakiri, who hasn't fulfilled his potential but at one point looked like one of the best young players in Europe. Plus Affellay, Martins Indi, Jese, there is a lot of talent there. Inconsistent sure, but definite talent. But if you hire Mark Hughes and then Paul Lambert to coach that talent, don't be surprised when results are poor. For all the talk of young English players, Stoke don't seem to produce any academy graduates. But they do keep rubbish British managers in jobs. And the fact of the matter is that British managers just aren't good enough to coach in the Premier League anymore, and things won't get better until we realize that and start dealing with underlying problems.
I am setting the countdown clock on administration. I give it 24 months.
League One - check double relegation - check poor economics of fan base area - check massive club right down the road - check losses way beyond FFP rules and transfer embargo coming - check debts of £130 million, with half owed to a bank - buh... bye.
And the fact of the matter is that British managers just aren't good enough to coach in the Premier League anymore, and things won't get better until we realize that and start dealing with underlying problems.
Yep Burnley, Bournemouth and Brighton should deffo be looking at getting a foreign coach in . What a ridiculous sweeping statement you make there , of course some British managers are pony and so are some foreign managers
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Since the start of the 2015-16 season, no player has more assists for Sunderland in league games than Adam Johnson.
He’s been in Prison for 2 years
Where does it end for them?
A more spectacular decline than our own after dropping out of The Premier League. You have to wonder how they're going to turn things around from here.
An even more bleak future than our own.
I was looking at Stoke’s team and thinking, I don’t know who some of these players are and they’re gonna be off as soon as relegation is confirmed, whilst if you’re a fan, your club are likely gonna have to start again etc. Some of them don’t even leave. They drop down into the championship and become even more abysmal. It’s when I get wound up for young English talent
The clubs do have some say on when fixtures take place, or are at least allowed to make requests. Would have thought both us and them would want it on a Saturday, maximise gate receipts for one of the more attractive/least unappealing fixtures.
East coast main line does not go through Lincoln
#knowyourrailways
And if I was stranded in Grantham, I can assure you that the sounds of a Revenue Protection Officer being given an enema with his own blood would travel all the way to the Stadium of Light.
They will have the devils own job getting some of those higher paid players off the payroll, and as you say most of them will be happy to graze lazily in the Championship for a while.
Meanwhile all of the laonees (Kurt Zouma) will return to their parent clubs will pockets full of cash, and caring not a jot for the club they have left behind.
Similar with West Brom - how many of those players will thrive in the Championship?
Funnily enough Southampton will probably come staright back up, as they are armed with bundles of cash from sales of players like Van Djik, and also have just about the best youth policy in the country.
League One - check
double relegation - check
poor economics of fan base area - check
massive club right down the road - check
losses way beyond FFP rules and transfer embargo coming - check
debts of £130 million, with half owed to a bank - buh... bye.
What a ridiculous sweeping statement you make there , of course some British managers are pony and so are some foreign managers