I know that the recent dip in form has not helped with trying to bring to a conclusion the bids that are under consideration - certainly implies things are not 'done'
More info from Angeldust elsewhere. Without quoting the whole post, the gist is that Angeldust believes that the Aussies are still on the radar, while "nearly all" of the other interested parties have walked away over the price. His view is that the Aussies have reached some sort of agreement with RD, but it's far short of what he is looking for. As a result, his gut feeling is that RD will retain some interest in the club.
Angeldust also thinks that a timescale has been established for the deal to go through (the end of Feb or early March) but RD is still open to higher offers in the interim. Angeldust is concerned that this might not be a watertight arrangement with the Aussies, with the implication that RD might extend the deadline (that's my reading of it anyway). He ends on a more positive note that the Aussies are always looking for extra investment and could buy out RD over time.
Just thought people might find this interesting, and I know not everyone looks in "elsewhere" so might have missed it.
But RM promised RD wouldn't keep any part of the club
When asked if Roland Duchatelet would keep the ground and training ground
“I heard this thing that Roland was keeping The Valley and selling the club, no, not that I’m aware.
“To my knowledge this (the sale) would be lock, stock and barrel.
“The training ground for any buyer is quite key as well. They realise that for a club like us the academy is essential and I think Jason (Morgan, CEO of the Charlton Athletic Community Trust) is aware that the Trust is very much one of the assets which they (potential buyers) feel is linked to Charlton and can be expanded even further than it has been already.”
I’d take anything Murray says with a pinch of salt.
And what about angel dust?
I don’t really know who he is, other than he posts on ITTV.... so.....
Reminds me of when I was in the Valley Cafe and saw former chess Grand Master, Gary Kasparov in there. When I asked him to pass the salt, it took him half hour
I try to treat all my celebrity sightings confidential
Yes indeed I heard he had quite a checkered career after his chess days. Mind you, of course, he was pretty set in his ways, everything was very much black or white to him..
Gary Kasparov, a man who spent to much time bashing the bishop and checking out Queens.
I think he just underwent a self imposed 2 day suspension and gave himself a thorough dressing down - no shame in getting things wrong I'm told
What has he got wrong? The latest information suggests there has been a deal done in principle with the Aussie group albeit with a few strings attached and a timescale which allows RD to source other investment. If true it would appear that timescale is coming to an end and we will soon have a conclusion to this saga, providing of course RD is a trustworthy person to do business with. Whilst we all have many opinions of him, I'm not sure any of us know much about how he operates in situations like these, so we'll have to wait and see.
Prayfor@BDL. Has anyone heard or seen Dave Lockeood since his drunken escapade earlier this afternoon? Is he in trouble with the missus for getting drunk??
What's happened there is that you've pressed quote when you meant to press edit. I've been there a few times myself.
Cheers mate. Was trying to the edit onbmy phone but wouldn't work
So reading between the lines the 'business side' could be sold but Roland will somehow retain all or part of The Valley and / or training ground.
Unlikely.
So what we know is that there is a group with an Aussie in it,not sure if Muir is in or not? Paul Elliott might be involved? Do they have enough funds or are they borrowing it and are they potentially worse than what we already have, if they were Mega Rich wouldn't they just buy it all and pay off the Ex Directors and grab all the assets? The other Muir and McLeish are gone. Who else is there and are they borrowing funds or cash rich? Is Duchatalet being greedy on price or not sure if he takes part now part later than anyone bidding can cover the future and get to a point to pay him back the rest of his money? I am coming to conclusion this is going to go on for a very long time, and we already been going at least 8 months.
So reading between the lines the 'business side' could be sold but Roland will somehow retain all or part of The Valley and / or training ground.
Unlikely.
So what we know is that there is a group with an Aussie in it,not sure if Muir is in or not? Paul Elliott might be involved? Do they have enough funds or are they borrowing it and are they potentially worse than what we already have, if they were Mega Rich wouldn't they just buy it all and pay off the Ex Directors and grab all the assets? The other Muir and McLeish are gone. Who else is there and are they borrowing funds or cash rich? Is Duchatalet being greedy on price or not sure if he takes part now part later than anyone bidding can cover the future and get to a point to pay him back the rest of his money? I am coming to conclusion this is going to go on for a very long time, and we already been going at least 8 months.
Paul Elliott is not involved. That is from a 100 per cent, pukka, solid, unequivocal, concrete solid, source.
So reading between the lines the 'business side' could be sold but Roland will somehow retain all or part of The Valley and / or training ground.
Unlikely.
So what we know is that there is a group with an Aussie in it,not sure if Muir is in or not? Paul Elliott might be involved? Do they have enough funds or are they borrowing it and are they potentially worse than what we already have, if they were Mega Rich wouldn't they just buy it all and pay off the Ex Directors and grab all the assets? The other Muir and McLeish are gone. Who else is there and are they borrowing funds or cash rich? Is Duchatalet being greedy on price or not sure if he takes part now part later than anyone bidding can cover the future and get to a point to pay him back the rest of his money? I am coming to conclusion this is going to go on for a very long time, and we already been going at least 8 months.
Does anyone else get the feeling that we are just getting mugged off and RD is laughing his bollocks off
So reading between the lines the 'business side' could be sold but Roland will somehow retain all or part of The Valley and / or training ground.
Unlikely.
So what we know is that there is a group with an Aussie in it,not sure if Muir is in or not? Paul Elliott might be involved? Do they have enough funds or are they borrowing it and are they potentially worse than what we already have, if they were Mega Rich wouldn't they just buy it all and pay off the Ex Directors and grab all the assets? The other Muir and McLeish are gone. Who else is there and are they borrowing funds or cash rich? Is Duchatalet being greedy on price or not sure if he takes part now part later than anyone bidding can cover the future and get to a point to pay him back the rest of his money? I am coming to conclusion this is going to go on for a very long time, and we already been going at least 8 months.
Paul Elliott is not involved. That is from a 100 per cent, pukka, solid, unequivocal, concrete solid, source.
So reading between the lines the 'business side' could be sold but Roland will somehow retain all or part of The Valley and / or training ground.
Unlikely.
So what we know is that there is a group with an Aussie in it,not sure if Muir is in or not? Paul Elliott might be involved? Do they have enough funds or are they borrowing it and are they potentially worse than what we already have, if they were Mega Rich wouldn't they just buy it all and pay off the Ex Directors and grab all the assets? The other Muir and McLeish are gone. Who else is there and are they borrowing funds or cash rich? Is Duchatalet being greedy on price or not sure if he takes part now part later than anyone bidding can cover the future and get to a point to pay him back the rest of his money? I am coming to conclusion this is going to go on for a very long time, and we already been going at least 8 months.
Does anyone else get the feeling that we are just getting mugged off and RD is laughing his bollocks off
So reading between the lines the 'business side' could be sold but Roland will somehow retain all or part of The Valley and / or training ground.
Unlikely.
So what we know is that there is a group with an Aussie in it,not sure if Muir is in or not? Paul Elliott might be involved? Do they have enough funds or are they borrowing it and are they potentially worse than what we already have, if they were Mega Rich wouldn't they just buy it all and pay off the Ex Directors and grab all the assets? The other Muir and McLeish are gone. Who else is there and are they borrowing funds or cash rich? Is Duchatalet being greedy on price or not sure if he takes part now part later than anyone bidding can cover the future and get to a point to pay him back the rest of his money? I am coming to conclusion this is going to go on for a very long time, and we already been going at least 8 months.
Does anyone else get the feeling that we are just getting mugged off and RD is laughing his bollocks off
Relax. Richard Murray said we will be sold. (The same Richard Murray that said: "Iain Dowie is an excellent manager." "Michael Slater is a 'football person'." "We will not have to sell our best young players under Roland's tenure". That one.)
Roland has said the club is for sale (...well it was on the morning he said that.)
So reading between the lines the 'business side' could be sold but Roland will somehow retain all or part of The Valley and / or training ground.
Unlikely.
So what we know is that there is a group with an Aussie in it,not sure if Muir is in or not? Paul Elliott might be involved? Do they have enough funds or are they borrowing it and are they potentially worse than what we already have, if they were Mega Rich wouldn't they just buy it all and pay off the Ex Directors and grab all the assets? The other Muir and McLeish are gone. Who else is there and are they borrowing funds or cash rich? Is Duchatalet being greedy on price or not sure if he takes part now part later than anyone bidding can cover the future and get to a point to pay him back the rest of his money? I am coming to conclusion this is going to go on for a very long time, and we already been going at least 8 months.
Does anyone else get the feeling that we are just getting mugged off and RD is laughing his bollocks off
He's willing to pay a lot for his laughs then....?
Around £750,000 per month down the pan - not to be seen again...
So reading between the lines the 'business side' could be sold but Roland will somehow retain all or part of The Valley and / or training ground.
Unlikely.
So what we know is that there is a group with an Aussie in it,not sure if Muir is in or not? Paul Elliott might be involved? Do they have enough funds or are they borrowing it and are they potentially worse than what we already have, if they were Mega Rich wouldn't they just buy it all and pay off the Ex Directors and grab all the assets? The other Muir and McLeish are gone. Who else is there and are they borrowing funds or cash rich? Is Duchatalet being greedy on price or not sure if he takes part now part later than anyone bidding can cover the future and get to a point to pay him back the rest of his money? I am coming to conclusion this is going to go on for a very long time, and we already been going at least 8 months.
Paul Elliott is not involved. That is from a 100 per cent, pukka, solid, unequivocal, concrete solid, source.
So reading between the lines the 'business side' could be sold but Roland will somehow retain all or part of The Valley and / or training ground.
Unlikely.
So what we know is that there is a group with an Aussie in it,not sure if Muir is in or not? Paul Elliott might be involved? Do they have enough funds or are they borrowing it and are they potentially worse than what we already have, if they were Mega Rich wouldn't they just buy it all and pay off the Ex Directors and grab all the assets? The other Muir and McLeish are gone. Who else is there and are they borrowing funds or cash rich? Is Duchatalet being greedy on price or not sure if he takes part now part later than anyone bidding can cover the future and get to a point to pay him back the rest of his money? I am coming to conclusion this is going to go on for a very long time, and we already been going at least 8 months.
Does anyone else get the feeling that we are just getting mugged off and RD is laughing his bollocks off
Relax. Richard Murray said we will be sold. (The same Richard Murray that said: "Iain Dowie is an excellent manager." "Michael Slater is a 'football person'." "We will not have to sell our best young players under Roland's tenure". That one.)
Roland has said the club is for sale (...well it was on the morning he said that.)
He also said Parky was a better manager than Curbs.
@Redhenry on a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is very dirty money and 10 is 100% honestly earnt or inherited, what would you say 'your' investers money would score ?
So reading between the lines the 'business side' could be sold but Roland will somehow retain all or part of The Valley and / or training ground.
Unlikely.
So what we know is that there is a group with an Aussie in it,not sure if Muir is in or not? Paul Elliott might be involved? Do they have enough funds or are they borrowing it and are they potentially worse than what we already have, if they were Mega Rich wouldn't they just buy it all and pay off the Ex Directors and grab all the assets? The other Muir and McLeish are gone. Who else is there and are they borrowing funds or cash rich? Is Duchatalet being greedy on price or not sure if he takes part now part later than anyone bidding can cover the future and get to a point to pay him back the rest of his money? I am coming to conclusion this is going to go on for a very long time, and we already been going at least 8 months.
Does anyone else get the feeling that we are just getting mugged off and RD is laughing his bollocks off
He's willing to pay a lot for his laughs then....?
Around £750,000 per month down the pan - not to be seen again...
@Redhenry on a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is very dirty money and 10 is 100% honestly earnt or inherited, what would you say 'your' investers money would score ?
@Redhenry on a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is Hartlepool United and 10 is Manchester City, where would you say "your" investors wealth would score?
So the real question is will he settle for a sensible amount due to his ongoing losses or will the loss of senior figures mean that we have nobody to pay the bills and we end up in administration and he gets nothing. The second option is highly unlikely but would be funny.
Roland is clearly playing the game and trying to create a bidding war. I don't blame him for that because we would all do the same.
At some point he will have to lower his asking price because that's going to be a better option than continually funding our losses.
My information regarding the Scottish interest was that he was asking for a fairly substantial amount if he were to sell and we went on to gain promotion. I think that has been a sticky point because getting promotion from League 1 to the Champ is not worth an extra 5mil (the amount I was told he wanted including in the contract of sale).
I do think we have to be patient, we are close to being sold. It's just when Roland decides to lower his valuation because he is not going to get anywhere near what he thinks he can get.
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Do they have enough funds or are they borrowing it and are they potentially worse than what we already have, if they were Mega Rich wouldn't they just buy it all and pay off the Ex Directors and grab all the assets?
The other Muir and McLeish are gone.
Who else is there and are they borrowing funds or cash rich?
Is Duchatalet being greedy on price or not sure if he takes part now part later than anyone bidding can cover the future and get to a point to pay him back the rest of his money?
I am coming to conclusion this is going to go on for a very long time, and we already been going at least 8 months.
Rio Ferdinard to save south London football club
independent.co.uk/sport/football/rio-ferdinand-save-dulwich-hamlet-10m-offer-revealed-jack-pitt-brooke-a8224891.html
(The same Richard Murray that said:
"Iain Dowie is an excellent manager."
"Michael Slater is a 'football person'."
"We will not have to sell our best young players under Roland's tenure".
That one.)
Roland has said the club is for sale
(...well it was on the morning he said that.)
Around £750,000 per month down the pan - not to be seen again...
At some point he will have to lower his asking price because that's going to be a better option than continually funding our losses.
My information regarding the Scottish interest was that he was asking for a fairly substantial amount if he were to sell and we went on to gain promotion. I think that has been a sticky point because getting promotion from League 1 to the Champ is not worth an extra 5mil (the amount I was told he wanted including in the contract of sale).
I do think we have to be patient, we are close to being sold. It's just when Roland decides to lower his valuation because he is not going to get anywhere near what he thinks he can get.