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I hate the regime but.... Rules are the player must have been signed either on loan or purchased by Roly, no players already on the books including youth team that have been promoted.
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  • edited February 2017
    Rudd
    Foley | Bauer | Teixeira | Chicksen
    Gudmundsson | Buyens | Bulot
    Vetokele | Magennis | Holmes
  • 4-3-3
    Rudd
    Tex....Ben Haim...Bauer...Chicksen*
    ...Buyens....Diarra...Coquelin
    JBG.....Magennis....Bulot**

    *Could see this being Page in a month or two
    **Unlucky on Igor to miss out. We took a promising, athletically gifted young player and may have destroyed his career.
  • RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):

    1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien
    2 Astrit Ajdarevic
    3 Reza Ghoochannejhad
    4 Loic Nego
    5 Piotr Parzyszek
    6 Marcus Tudgay
    7 Davide Petrucci
    8 Stephen Henderson
    9 Tal Ben-Haim
    10 Andre Bikey-Amougou
    11 Johann Berg Gudmundsson
    12 Yoni Buyens
    13 Igor Vetokele
    14 George Tucudean
    15 Franck Moussa
    16 Frederic Bulot
    17 Francis Coquelin
    18 Oguchi Onyewu
    19 Neil Etheridge
    20 Tony Watt
    21 Marko Dmitrovic
    22 Milos Veljkovic
    23 Christophe Lepoint
    24 Roger Johnson
    25 Chris Eagles
    26 Alou Diarra
    27 Patrick Bauer
    28 Ahmed Kashi
    29 El-Hadji Ba
    30 Simon Makienok
    31 Zakarya Bergdich
    32 Cristian Ceballos
    33 Naby Sarr
    34 Conor McAleny
    35 Ricardo Vaz Te
    36 Rhys Williams
    37 Jorge Teixeira
    38 Yaya Sanogo
    39 Marco Motta
    40 Rod Fanni
    41 Yun Suk-Young
    42 Declan Rudd
    43 Kevin Foley
    44 Andrew Crofts
    45 Nicky Ajose
    46 Ricky Holmes
    47 Jason Pearce
    48 Lee Novak
    49 Josh Magennis
    50 Jordan Botaka
    51 Adam Chicksen
    52 Fredrick Ulvestad
    53 Lewis Page
    54 Nathan Byrne
    55 Jay Desilva
    56 Jake Forster-Caskey

    For every good player in that list, there are uncountable s*** ones.
    Uncountable.
  • There's certainly at least twototal shore players for every half decent player. And that's even counting bikey as a half decent player
  • RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):

    1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien
    2 Astrit Ajdarevic
    3 Reza Ghoochannejhad
    4 Loic Nego
    5 Piotr Parzyszek
    6 Marcus Tudgay
    7 Davide Petrucci
    8 Stephen Henderson
    9 Tal Ben-Haim
    10 Andre Bikey-Amougou
    11 Johann Berg Gudmundsson
    12 Yoni Buyens
    13 Igor Vetokele
    14 George Tucudean
    15 Franck Moussa
    16 Frederic Bulot
    17 Francis Coquelin
    18 Oguchi Onyewu
    19 Neil Etheridge
    20 Tony Watt
    21 Marko Dmitrovic
    22 Milos Veljkovic
    23 Christophe Lepoint
    24 Roger Johnson
    25 Chris Eagles
    26 Alou Diarra
    27 Patrick Bauer
    28 Ahmed Kashi
    29 El-Hadji Ba
    30 Simon Makienok
    31 Zakarya Bergdich
    32 Cristian Ceballos
    33 Naby Sarr
    34 Conor McAleny
    35 Ricardo Vaz Te
    36 Rhys Williams
    37 Jorge Teixeira
    38 Yaya Sanogo
    39 Marco Motta
    40 Rod Fanni
    41 Yun Suk-Young
    42 Declan Rudd
    43 Kevin Foley
    44 Andrew Crofts
    45 Nicky Ajose
    46 Ricky Holmes
    47 Jason Pearce
    48 Lee Novak
    49 Josh Magennis
    50 Jordan Botaka
    51 Adam Chicksen
    52 Fredrick Ulvestad
    53 Lewis Page
    54 Nathan Byrne
    55 Jay Desilva
    56 Jake Forster-Caskey

    Seeing that really does highlight the level of incompetence demonstrated by Katrien Miere/Roly
  • RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):

    1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien
    2 Astrit Ajdarevic
    3 Reza Ghoochannejhad
    4 Loic Nego
    5 Piotr Parzyszek
    6 Marcus Tudgay
    7 Davide Petrucci
    8 Stephen Henderson
    9 Tal Ben-Haim
    10 Andre Bikey-Amougou
    11 Johann Berg Gudmundsson
    12 Yoni Buyens
    13 Igor Vetokele
    14 George Tucudean
    15 Franck Moussa
    16 Frederic Bulot
    17 Francis Coquelin
    18 Oguchi Onyewu
    19 Neil Etheridge
    20 Tony Watt
    21 Marko Dmitrovic
    22 Milos Veljkovic
    23 Christophe Lepoint
    24 Roger Johnson
    25 Chris Eagles
    26 Alou Diarra
    27 Patrick Bauer
    28 Ahmed Kashi
    29 El-Hadji Ba
    30 Simon Makienok
    31 Zakarya Bergdich
    32 Cristian Ceballos
    33 Naby Sarr
    34 Conor McAleny
    35 Ricardo Vaz Te
    36 Rhys Williams
    37 Jorge Teixeira
    38 Yaya Sanogo
    39 Marco Motta
    40 Rod Fanni
    41 Yun Suk-Young
    42 Declan Rudd
    43 Kevin Foley
    44 Andrew Crofts
    45 Nicky Ajose
    46 Ricky Holmes
    47 Jason Pearce
    48 Lee Novak
    49 Josh Magennis
    50 Jordan Botaka
    51 Adam Chicksen
    52 Fredrick Ulvestad
    53 Lewis Page
    54 Nathan Byrne
    55 Jay Desilva
    56 Jake Forster-Caskey

    That's incredible. By my count that's 18 of 56 still with the club (excluding those out on loan and including Kashi), and 13 of which were signed for this season. A horrendous report on the club's transfer business under Duchatalet's short tenure.

    And we bloody signed Roger Johnson twice.
  • --------------Rudd
    Foley --- Bauer ---- Teixeira --- Chicksen
    ------Coquelin --- Diarra/Kashi
    JBG --------- Holmes --------- Bulot
    ------------Magennis
  • RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):

    1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien - no
    2 Astrit Ajdarevic - yes
    3 Reza - no
    4 Loic Nego - no
    5 Piotr Parzyszek - no
    6 Marcus Tudgay - no
    7 Davide Petrucci - no
    8 Stephen Henderson - yes
    9 Tal Ben-Haim - yes
    10 Andre Bikey-Amougu - no
    11 Johann Berg Gudmundson - yes
    12 Yoni Buyens - yes
    13 Igor Vetokele - no
    14 George Tucudean - no
    15 Franck Moussa - no
    16 Frederic Bulot - yes
    17 Francis Coquelin - yes
    18 Oguchi Onyewu - no
    19 Neil Etheridge - yes
    20 Tony Watt - no
    21 Marko Dmitrovic - no
    22 Milos Veljokic - no
    23 Christophe Lepoint - no
    24 Roger Johnson - no
    25 Chris Eagles - no
    26 Alou Diarra - yes
    27 Patrick Bauer - yes
    28 Ahmed Kashi - no
    29 El-Hadji Ba - no
    30 Simon Makienok - no
    31 Zakarya Bergdich - no
    32 Cristian Ceballos - no
    33 Naby Sarr - no
    34 Conor McAleny - no
    35 Ricardo Vaz Te - no
    36 Rhys Williams - no
    37 Jorge Teixeira - yes
    38 Yaya Sanogo - no
    39 Marco Motta - yes
    40 Rod Fanni - yes
    41 Yun Suk-Young - yes
    42 Declan Rudd - yes
    43 Kevin Foley - no
    44 Andrew Crofts - yes
    45 Nicky Ajose - no
    46 Ricky Holmes - yes
    47 Jason Pearce - yes
    48 Lee Novak - no
    49 Josh Magennis - yes
    50 Jordan Botaka - no
    51 Adam Chicksen - yes
    52 Fredrick Ulvestad - no
    53 Lewis Page
    54 Nathan Byrne
    55 Jay Desilva
    56 Jake Forster-Caskey

    I've basically gone through it and highlighted who I think had/has been good, taking into account length of time they've been here/played. I left out the last 4 as they are new arrivals.

    With players like Vetokele being a no, it doesn't mean I don't think they're a good player, it's more have we had good value over the life of that player's contract. One half a season is nowhere enough. I know he got injured, but if it had been handled the right way then he would be an option for us this season. These are simply my metrics, but in total that's 32 no's and 20 yes'

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  • I honestly reckon Fanni was probably the best of the bunch, him or Johann.
  • I honestly reckon Fanni was probably the best of the bunch, him or Johann.

    Johann was without the best... How we got him on a Free Transfer I'll never know
  • Rudd
    Fanni Teixeira TBH Chicksen
    JBG Buyens Kashi Bulot
    Igor Magennis

    A decent team that, though a bit misleading as with the massive turnover of players we've gone through 2 squads worth in 3 years...
  • RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):

    1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien
    2 Astrit Ajdarevic
    3 Reza Ghoochannejhad
    4 Loic Nego
    5 Piotr Parzyszek
    6 Marcus Tudgay
    7 Davide Petrucci
    8 Stephen Henderson
    9 Tal Ben-Haim
    10 Andre Bikey-Amougou
    11 Johann Berg Gudmundsson
    12 Yoni Buyens
    13 Igor Vetokele
    14 George Tucudean
    15 Franck Moussa
    16 Frederic Bulot
    17 Francis Coquelin
    18 Oguchi Onyewu
    19 Neil Etheridge
    20 Tony Watt
    21 Marko Dmitrovic
    22 Milos Veljkovic
    23 Christophe Lepoint
    24 Roger Johnson
    25 Chris Eagles
    26 Alou Diarra
    27 Patrick Bauer
    28 Ahmed Kashi
    29 El-Hadji Ba
    30 Simon Makienok
    31 Zakarya Bergdich
    32 Cristian Ceballos
    33 Naby Sarr
    34 Conor McAleny
    35 Ricardo Vaz Te
    36 Rhys Williams
    37 Jorge Teixeira
    38 Yaya Sanogo
    39 Marco Motta
    40 Rod Fanni
    41 Yun Suk-Young
    42 Declan Rudd
    43 Kevin Foley
    44 Andrew Crofts
    45 Nicky Ajose
    46 Ricky Holmes
    47 Jason Pearce
    48 Lee Novak
    49 Josh Magennis
    50 Jordan Botaka
    51 Adam Chicksen
    52 Fredrick Ulvestad
    53 Lewis Page
    54 Nathan Byrne
    55 Jay Desilva
    56 Jake Forster-Caskey

    An expensive catalogue of cack.
  • Where's Koc ? I've been looking for Koc without any joy.
  • Rudd
    Fanni Teixeira TBH Chicksen
    JBG Buyens Kashi Bulot
    Igor Magennis

    A decent team that, though a bit misleading as with the massive turnover of players we've gone through 2 squads worth in 3 years...

    I'd put Diarra in the team ahead of TBH but otherwise that is a decent championship side that could challenge for promotion.
  • I'll do this for permanent signings only....

    Henderson
    Teixeira TBH Bauer
    JBG Diarra Kashi Chicksen
    Holmes Watt
    Magennis

    Bench: Dmitrovic, Pearce, Bikey, Page, Crofts, JFC, Vetokele

    A bit light on bench attacking options but really not bad
  • edited February 2017
    Lack of proven left back means I'm going 3-5-2 (maybe in a few months I'll be able to have Page or Chicksen in but not yet).

    Henderson

    Fanni TBH Tex

    JBG Diarra Kashi Adjarevic Bulot

    Vetokele Watt

    Subs; Rudd Motta Suk Buyens Bauer Magennis Holmes
  • 4-4-2
    Rudd
    Fanni TBH Tex Chicksen
    JBG Diarra Buyens Bulot
    Igor(non broken version) Magennis

    Worst 11
    Thuram-Ulien
    Nego Williams Sarr Bergdich
    McAleny LePoint Ba Moussa
    Reza Polish Pete
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  • cabbles said:

    RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):

    1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien - no
    2 Astrit Ajdarevic - yes
    3 Reza - no
    4 Loic Nego - no
    5 Piotr Parzyszek - no
    6 Marcus Tudgay - no
    7 Davide Petrucci - no
    8 Stephen Henderson - yes
    9 Tal Ben-Haim - yes
    10 Andre Bikey-Amougu - no
    11 Johann Berg Gudmundson - yes
    12 Yoni Buyens - yes
    13 Igor Vetokele - no
    14 George Tucudean - no
    15 Franck Moussa - no
    16 Frederic Bulot - yes
    17 Francis Coquelin - yes
    18 Oguchi Onyewu - no
    19 Neil Etheridge - yes
    20 Tony Watt - no
    21 Marko Dmitrovic - no
    22 Milos Veljokic - no
    23 Christophe Lepoint - no
    24 Roger Johnson - no
    25 Chris Eagles - no
    26 Alou Diarra - yes
    27 Patrick Bauer - yes
    28 Ahmed Kashi - no
    29 El-Hadji Ba - no
    30 Simon Makienok - no
    31 Zakarya Bergdich - no
    32 Cristian Ceballos - no
    33 Naby Sarr - no
    34 Conor McAleny - no
    35 Ricardo Vaz Te - no
    36 Rhys Williams - no
    37 Jorge Teixeira - yes
    38 Yaya Sanogo - no
    39 Marco Motta - yes
    40 Rod Fanni - yes
    41 Yun Suk-Young - yes
    42 Declan Rudd - yes
    43 Kevin Foley - no
    44 Andrew Crofts - yes
    45 Nicky Ajose - no
    46 Ricky Holmes - yes
    47 Jason Pearce - yes
    48 Lee Novak - no
    49 Josh Magennis - yes
    50 Jordan Botaka - no
    51 Adam Chicksen - yes
    52 Fredrick Ulvestad - no
    53 Lewis Page
    54 Nathan Byrne
    55 Jay Desilva
    56 Jake Forster-Caskey

    I've basically gone through it and highlighted who I think had/has been good, taking into account length of time they've been here/played. I left out the last 4 as they are new arrivals.

    With players like Vetokele being a no, it doesn't mean I don't think they're a good player, it's more have we had good value over the life of that player's contract. One half a season is nowhere enough. I know he got injured, but if it had been handled the right way then he would be an option for us this season. These are simply my metrics, but in total that's 32 no's and 20 yes'

    Perhaps some might disagree with one or two but that's not the point. What becomes strikingly obvious from the list in this format, is the all the "no"s from 28-36 inclusive.

    And then all of the "yes"s from 37 on.

    What changed?

    Quite simply Riga returned and his initial comments featured this understatement "we need to make less mistakes when signing players"

    Between Riga and Slade they stabilised things and we now have Robinson making a few changes.

    The last six games are unbeaten and we are on two points a game with Magennis back soon. Let's not kid ourselves about how this season might end but it does appear that we have followed Riga's advice. And that's before we assess the final four on the list, three of whom have great promise.

    Let's see what the squad looks like in August.
  • Rudd, Fanni, Tex, Bauer, TBH, JBG, Buyens, Coq, Bulot, Ajdarevic, Vetokele
  • cabbles said:

    RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):

    1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien - no
    2 Astrit Ajdarevic - yes
    3 Reza - no
    4 Loic Nego - no
    5 Piotr Parzyszek - no
    6 Marcus Tudgay - no
    7 Davide Petrucci - no
    8 Stephen Henderson - yes
    9 Tal Ben-Haim - yes
    10 Andre Bikey-Amougu - no
    11 Johann Berg Gudmundson - yes
    12 Yoni Buyens - yes
    13 Igor Vetokele - no
    14 George Tucudean - no
    15 Franck Moussa - no
    16 Frederic Bulot - yes
    17 Francis Coquelin - yes
    18 Oguchi Onyewu - no
    19 Neil Etheridge - yes
    20 Tony Watt - no
    21 Marko Dmitrovic - no
    22 Milos Veljokic - no
    23 Christophe Lepoint - no
    24 Roger Johnson - no
    25 Chris Eagles - no
    26 Alou Diarra - yes
    27 Patrick Bauer - yes
    28 Ahmed Kashi - no
    29 El-Hadji Ba - no
    30 Simon Makienok - no
    31 Zakarya Bergdich - no
    32 Cristian Ceballos - no
    33 Naby Sarr - no
    34 Conor McAleny - no
    35 Ricardo Vaz Te - no
    36 Rhys Williams - no
    37 Jorge Teixeira - yes
    38 Yaya Sanogo - no
    39 Marco Motta - yes
    40 Rod Fanni - yes
    41 Yun Suk-Young - yes
    42 Declan Rudd - yes
    43 Kevin Foley - no
    44 Andrew Crofts - yes
    45 Nicky Ajose - no
    46 Ricky Holmes - yes
    47 Jason Pearce - yes
    48 Lee Novak - no
    49 Josh Magennis - yes
    50 Jordan Botaka - no
    51 Adam Chicksen - yes
    52 Fredrick Ulvestad - no
    53 Lewis Page
    54 Nathan Byrne
    55 Jay Desilva
    56 Jake Forster-Caskey

    I've basically gone through it and highlighted who I think had/has been good, taking into account length of time they've been here/played. I left out the last 4 as they are new arrivals.

    With players like Vetokele being a no, it doesn't mean I don't think they're a good player, it's more have we had good value over the life of that player's contract. One half a season is nowhere enough. I know he got injured, but if it had been handled the right way then he would be an option for us this season. These are simply my metrics, but in total that's 32 no's and 20 yes'

    Perhaps some might disagree with one or two but that's not the point. What becomes strikingly obvious from the list in this format, is the all the "no"s from 28-36 inclusive.

    And then all of the "yes"s from 37 on.

    What changed?

    Quite simply Riga returned and his initial comments featured this understatement "we need to make less mistakes when signing players"

    Between Riga and Slade they stabilised things and we now have Robinson making a few changes.

    The last six games are unbeaten and we are on two points a game with Magennis back soon. Let's not kid ourselves about how this season might end but it does appear that we have followed Riga's advice. And that's before we assess the final four on the list, three of whom have great promise.

    Let's see what the squad looks like in August.
    I truly believe it will be lop sided and mal nourished

    I think RD's will to put anything substantial in this summer will be minimal
  • edited February 2017

    RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):

    1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien - Time at Club - 4 months - number of games - 4
    2 Astrit Ajdarevic - 4 momths - 15(2 goals)
    3 Reza Ghoochannejhad - 29 months - 38(3goals)
    4 Loic Nego - 19 months - 1 game
    5 Piotr Parzyszek - 24 months - 1 game
    6 Marcus Tudgay - 1 month - 2 games
    7 Davide Petrucci - 2 months - 5 games
    8 Stephen Henderson - 24 months - 54 games
    9 Tal Ben-Haim - 10 months - 37 games
    10 Andre Bikey-Amougou - 15 months - 34(1 goal)
    11 Johann Berg Gudmundsson - 24 months - 86 (17 goals)
    12 Yoni Buyens - 11 months - 40 (8 goals)
    13 Igor Vetokele - 24 months - 61 (12 goals)
    14 George Tucudean - 24 months - 20 (2 goals)
    15 Franck Moussa - 19 months - 19 (1 goal)
    16 Frederic Bulot - 9 months - 28 (5 goals)
    17 Francis Coquelin - 1 months - 5 games
    18 Oguchi Onyewu - 7 months - 3 games
    19 Neil Etheridge - 6 months - 2 games
    20 Tony Watt - 24 months - 40 (8 goals)
    21 Marko Dmitrovic - 18 months - 5 games
    22 Milos Veljkovic - 1 month - 3 games
    23 Christophe Lepoint - 6 months - 6 games
    24 Roger Johnson - 12 months - 12 games
    25 Chris Eagles - 3 months - 15 (2 goals)
    26 Alou Diarra - 17 months - 45 (1 goal)
    27 Patrick Bauer - 18 months - 45 (4 goals)
    28 Ahmed Kashi - 17 months - 13 (2 goals)
    29 El-Hadji Ba - 18 months - 28 games
    30 Simon Makienok - 10 months - 37 (5 goals)
    31 Zakarya Bergdich - 13 months - 16 games
    32 Cristian Ceballos - 13 months - 7 games
    33 Naby Sarr - 11 months - 16 (1 goal)
    34 Conor McAleny - 2 months - 6 games
    35 Ricardo Vaz Te - 2 months - 7 games
    36 Rhys Williams - 1 month - 3 games
    37 Jorge Teixeira - 18 months - 30 (3 goals)
    38 Yaya Sanogo - 3 months - 8 (3 goals)
    39 Marco Motta - 3 months - 12 (1 goal)
    40 Rod Fanni - 3 months - 14 games
    41 Yun Suk-Young - 3 months - 9 games
    42 Declan Rudd - 6 months - 22 game
    43 Kevin Foley - 5 months - 19 games
    44 Andrew Crofts - 7 months - 34 (1 goal)
    45 Nicky Ajose - 8 months - 28(7 goals)
    46 Ricky Holmes - 8 months - 20 (4 goals)
    47 Jason Pearce - 6 months - 18 games
    48 Lee Novak - 8 months - 22 (2 goals)
    49 Josh Magennis - 6 months - 26 (8 goals)
    50 Jordan Botaka - 6 months - 18 games
    51 Adam Chicksen - 6 months - 17 (2 goals)
    52 Fredrick Ulvestad - 6 months - 23 (1 goal)
    53 Lewis Page
    54 Nathan Byrne
    55 Jay Desilva
    56 Jake Forster-Caskey

    28 of the 56 played 20 or fewer games, with 11 playing 5 or less. Of the 56 players, only JBG, Yoni Buyens and Igor have so far got into double figures with goals.
  • Rudd, Fanni, Tex, Bauer, TBH, JBG, Buyens, Coq, Bulot, Ajdarevic, Vetokele

    I'd buy this - and the subs would be: Henderson, Suk-Young, Pearce, Ajdareic, Diarra, Ghoochannejhad and Watt
  • Rudd, Fanni, Tex, Bauer, TBH, JBG, Buyens, Coq, Bulot, Ajdarevic, Vetokele

    I'd buy this - and the subs would be: Henderson, Suk-Young, Pearce, Ajdareic, Diarra, Ghoochannejhad and Watt
    Ah..........delete Ajdarevis from the subs and replace with Holmes :-)

    56 new players in 3 years. Blimey: bit different from the time we'd have 3-4 per season at best.
  • That list reads like Headstones in the cementary that is Charlton Athletic football club.

    So depressing, bad results are no problem, but this complete lack of respect from some fucking scum bag just makes my blood boil, how much more can we suffer?

  • Rudd, Fanni, Tex, Bauer, TBH, JBG, Buyens, Coq, Bulot, Ajdarevic, Vetokele

    I'd buy this - and the subs would be: Henderson, Suk-Young, Pearce, Ajdareic, Diarra, Ghoochannejhad and Watt
    Ghoochannejhad. Really?
  • cabbles said:

    RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):

    1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien - no
    2 Astrit Ajdarevic - yes
    3 Reza - no
    4 Loic Nego - no
    5 Piotr Parzyszek - no
    6 Marcus Tudgay - no
    7 Davide Petrucci - no
    8 Stephen Henderson - yes
    9 Tal Ben-Haim - yes
    10 Andre Bikey-Amougu - no
    11 Johann Berg Gudmundson - yes
    12 Yoni Buyens - yes
    13 Igor Vetokele - no
    14 George Tucudean - no
    15 Franck Moussa - no
    16 Frederic Bulot - yes
    17 Francis Coquelin - yes
    18 Oguchi Onyewu - no
    19 Neil Etheridge - yes
    20 Tony Watt - no
    21 Marko Dmitrovic - no
    22 Milos Veljokic - no
    23 Christophe Lepoint - no
    24 Roger Johnson - no
    25 Chris Eagles - no
    26 Alou Diarra - yes
    27 Patrick Bauer - yes
    28 Ahmed Kashi - no
    29 El-Hadji Ba - no
    30 Simon Makienok - no
    31 Zakarya Bergdich - no
    32 Cristian Ceballos - no
    33 Naby Sarr - no
    34 Conor McAleny - no
    35 Ricardo Vaz Te - no
    36 Rhys Williams - no
    37 Jorge Teixeira - yes
    38 Yaya Sanogo - no
    39 Marco Motta - yes
    40 Rod Fanni - yes
    41 Yun Suk-Young - yes
    42 Declan Rudd - yes
    43 Kevin Foley - no
    44 Andrew Crofts - yes
    45 Nicky Ajose - no
    46 Ricky Holmes - yes
    47 Jason Pearce - yes
    48 Lee Novak - no
    49 Josh Magennis - yes
    50 Jordan Botaka - no
    51 Adam Chicksen - yes
    52 Fredrick Ulvestad - no
    53 Lewis Page
    54 Nathan Byrne
    55 Jay Desilva
    56 Jake Forster-Caskey

    I've basically gone through it and highlighted who I think had/has been good, taking into account length of time they've been here/played. I left out the last 4 as they are new arrivals.

    With players like Vetokele being a no, it doesn't mean I don't think they're a good player, it's more have we had good value over the life of that player's contract. One half a season is nowhere enough. I know he got injured, but if it had been handled the right way then he would be an option for us this season. These are simply my metrics, but in total that's 32 no's and 20 yes'

    Perhaps some might disagree with one or two but that's not the point. What becomes strikingly obvious from the list in this format, is the all the "no"s from 28-36 inclusive.

    And then all of the "yes"s from 37 on.

    What changed?

    Quite simply Riga returned and his initial comments featured this understatement "we need to make less mistakes when signing players"

    Between Riga and Slade they stabilised things and we now have Robinson making a few changes.

    The last six games are unbeaten and we are on two points a game with Magennis back soon. Let's not kid ourselves about how this season might end but it does appear that we have followed Riga's advice. And that's before we assess the final four on the list, three of whom have great promise.

    Let's see what the squad looks like in August.
    What are you hoping/expecting to be different? Under RD it has always been the same - some good individuals, 1 or 2 players short and a feeling that there are too many young and inexperienced players.

    It's always about hope rather than expectation that it'll all come together.
  • Scoham said:

    cabbles said:

    RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):

    1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien - no
    2 Astrit Ajdarevic - yes
    3 Reza - no
    4 Loic Nego - no
    5 Piotr Parzyszek - no
    6 Marcus Tudgay - no
    7 Davide Petrucci - no
    8 Stephen Henderson - yes
    9 Tal Ben-Haim - yes
    10 Andre Bikey-Amougu - no
    11 Johann Berg Gudmundson - yes
    12 Yoni Buyens - yes
    13 Igor Vetokele - no
    14 George Tucudean - no
    15 Franck Moussa - no
    16 Frederic Bulot - yes
    17 Francis Coquelin - yes
    18 Oguchi Onyewu - no
    19 Neil Etheridge - yes
    20 Tony Watt - no
    21 Marko Dmitrovic - no
    22 Milos Veljokic - no
    23 Christophe Lepoint - no
    24 Roger Johnson - no
    25 Chris Eagles - no
    26 Alou Diarra - yes
    27 Patrick Bauer - yes
    28 Ahmed Kashi - no
    29 El-Hadji Ba - no
    30 Simon Makienok - no
    31 Zakarya Bergdich - no
    32 Cristian Ceballos - no
    33 Naby Sarr - no
    34 Conor McAleny - no
    35 Ricardo Vaz Te - no
    36 Rhys Williams - no
    37 Jorge Teixeira - yes
    38 Yaya Sanogo - no
    39 Marco Motta - yes
    40 Rod Fanni - yes
    41 Yun Suk-Young - yes
    42 Declan Rudd - yes
    43 Kevin Foley - no
    44 Andrew Crofts - yes
    45 Nicky Ajose - no
    46 Ricky Holmes - yes
    47 Jason Pearce - yes
    48 Lee Novak - no
    49 Josh Magennis - yes
    50 Jordan Botaka - no
    51 Adam Chicksen - yes
    52 Fredrick Ulvestad - no
    53 Lewis Page
    54 Nathan Byrne
    55 Jay Desilva
    56 Jake Forster-Caskey

    I've basically gone through it and highlighted who I think had/has been good, taking into account length of time they've been here/played. I left out the last 4 as they are new arrivals.

    With players like Vetokele being a no, it doesn't mean I don't think they're a good player, it's more have we had good value over the life of that player's contract. One half a season is nowhere enough. I know he got injured, but if it had been handled the right way then he would be an option for us this season. These are simply my metrics, but in total that's 32 no's and 20 yes'

    Perhaps some might disagree with one or two but that's not the point. What becomes strikingly obvious from the list in this format, is the all the "no"s from 28-36 inclusive.

    And then all of the "yes"s from 37 on.

    What changed?

    Quite simply Riga returned and his initial comments featured this understatement "we need to make less mistakes when signing players"

    Between Riga and Slade they stabilised things and we now have Robinson making a few changes.

    The last six games are unbeaten and we are on two points a game with Magennis back soon. Let's not kid ourselves about how this season might end but it does appear that we have followed Riga's advice. And that's before we assess the final four on the list, three of whom have great promise.

    Let's see what the squad looks like in August.
    What are you hoping/expecting to be different? Under RD it has always been the same - some good individuals, 1 or 2 players short and a feeling that there are too many young and inexperienced players.

    It's always about hope rather than expectation that it'll all come together.
    He didn't say August of which year tbf.
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