I tend to agree that it wasn't likely to be a CARD tactic but what with the bottle throwing incident last season and some of the antics after the Gillingham game, I feel saddened that there are such morons who tag onto our club and diminish the reputation. Let's leave that behaviour to the neighbours at the toolbox.
Ooh aren't we superior!
Can't help but read that in the voice of Judge Rinder.
RAF, but enough about me. I just think smoke bombs are not a very bright idea, not exactly safe and it gives the club the opportunity to press criminal charges against whoever threw it and present protesters as unruly hooligans. Katrien will pull the victim card in a second if she can.
I had a fun night on Wednesday, I went to see Napoli v Dynamo Kiev. I got out the station near the ground and there was a distress flare about half a mile in air. I thought that was a bit weird, but hey it's Napoli.
So I started walking up the hill and all these fireworks and flares were being shot around at low level - I think they were rucking with the police. I kept my distance but some poor taxi driver was stuck there in traffic with his windows down. This flare looped in there, the cabbie tried putting it out but quickly ran off as within 2 minutes his car was a fireball.
I was shitting myself to be honest, and I'd got a cheap ticket in their ultras. I considered just going back to my hotel. Instead I went to queue with a few hundred other people and a minute later rockets started flying at us. So a few hundred of us legged it, panicking, down some side streets whilst behind us these pyro scum bags launched fireworks at us or maybe the nearby police. Kiev fans were supposedly under lockdown so I figure it to have been locals.
Eventually I circled back, my eyes were stinging a bit but rather than tear gas I think it was all the gunpowder in the air. I then found the furthest, highest and safest corner I could in the ground whilst for the first 45 minutes a helicopter circled overhead. And I'm still waiting for an apology from CARD.
Obviously nothing to do with CARD ... no one thinks they will help our situation ( will take a lot more than a bit of smoke )but personally i love them. Its quite common now for fans to throw one when they score.. think it adds to the atmosphere. Tbh would like to see more of them.
It's only because they're banned here that people make such a fuss. On the continent they're a regular part of a lot of matches and add to the atmosphere. I don't really see the harm.
Not so funny if it doesn't reach the pitch and hits someone in the covered end instead.
How many have done that?
None... yet. Do I have to rely on a moron's arm to avoid catching fire? I've been hit by enough spongy footballs, pigs and taxis thrown from the top deck by biffs who never made it on to the cricket team!
Just to clarify there is no chance of you catching fire. They are smoke bombs not flares. Flares burn at a few hundred degrees and are pretty dangerous. Smoke bombs you can hold in your hand and it will do you no damage at all. Yes it would hurt if it hit you on the head. If you are gonna throw one from the upper tier you best be sure of your arm.
It's only because they're banned here that people make such a fuss. On the continent they're a regular part of a lot of matches and add to the atmosphere. I don't really see the harm.
Not so funny if it doesn't reach the pitch and hits someone in the covered end instead.
How many have done that?
None... yet. Do I have to rely on a moron's arm to avoid catching fire? I've been hit by enough spongy footballs, pigs and taxis thrown from the top deck by biffs who never made it on to the cricket team!
Just to clarify there is no chance of you catching fire. They are smoke bombs not flares. Flares burn at a few hundred degrees and are pretty dangerous. Smoke bombs you can hold in your hand and it will do you no damage at all. Yes it would hurt if it hit you on the head. If you are gonna throw one from the upper tier you best be sure of your arm.
I think they make a good atmosphere...
I'm not an expert like you, but why do the things thrown on the pitch today create scorch marks on the pitch in that case ?
It's only because they're banned here that people make such a fuss. On the continent they're a regular part of a lot of matches and add to the atmosphere. I don't really see the harm.
Not so funny if it doesn't reach the pitch and hits someone in the covered end instead.
How many have done that?
None... yet. Do I have to rely on a moron's arm to avoid catching fire? I've been hit by enough spongy footballs, pigs and taxis thrown from the top deck by biffs who never made it on to the cricket team!
Just to clarify there is no chance of you catching fire. They are smoke bombs not flares. Flares burn at a few hundred degrees and are pretty dangerous. Smoke bombs you can hold in your hand and it will do you no damage at all. Yes it would hurt if it hit you on the head. If you are gonna throw one from the upper tier you best be sure of your arm.
I think they make a good atmosphere...
I'm not an expert like you, but why do the things thrown on the pitch today create scorch marks on the pitch in that case ?
No expert but have bought smoke bombs and used them (not at football). I think that may be more a stain from the ink in it or possibly the smoke causing it. Not sure. But I'm pretty sure there is no flame in them. It's a chemical reaction that creates the smoke...
It's only because they're banned here that people make such a fuss. On the continent they're a regular part of a lot of matches and add to the atmosphere. I don't really see the harm.
Not so funny if it doesn't reach the pitch and hits someone in the covered end instead.
How many have done that?
None... yet. Do I have to rely on a moron's arm to avoid catching fire? I've been hit by enough spongy footballs, pigs and taxis thrown from the top deck by biffs who never made it on to the cricket team!
Just to clarify there is no chance of you catching fire. They are smoke bombs not flares. Flares burn at a few hundred degrees and are pretty dangerous. Smoke bombs you can hold in your hand and it will do you no damage at all. Yes it would hurt if it hit you on the head. If you are gonna throw one from the upper tier you best be sure of your arm.
I think they make a good atmosphere...
I'm not an expert like you, but why do the things thrown on the pitch today create scorch marks on the pitch in that case ?
No expert but have bought smoke bombs and used them (not at football). I think that may be more a stain from the ink in it or possibly the smoke causing it. Not sure. But I'm pretty sure there is no flame in them. It's a chemical reaction that creates the smoke...
There was definitely a flame from the things thrown on the pitch today.
It looked like a paintball type smoke grenade. They do burn, it's just contained within the body of the flare. I don't know if they're designed to stand up to hitting a concrete floor from 100 ft up though
It's only because they're banned here that people make such a fuss. On the continent they're a regular part of a lot of matches and add to the atmosphere. I don't really see the harm.
Not so funny if it doesn't reach the pitch and hits someone in the covered end instead.
How many have done that?
None... yet. Do I have to rely on a moron's arm to avoid catching fire? I've been hit by enough spongy footballs, pigs and taxis thrown from the top deck by biffs who never made it on to the cricket team!
Just to clarify there is no chance of you catching fire. They are smoke bombs not flares. Flares burn at a few hundred degrees and are pretty dangerous. Smoke bombs you can hold in your hand and it will do you no damage at all. Yes it would hurt if it hit you on the head. If you are gonna throw one from the upper tier you best be sure of your arm.
I think they make a good atmosphere...
I was being slightly facetious, but I still maintain that it's a bad idea. As the person who threw it will find out if the OB get hold of them
I'd we're going to do smoke bombs can we at least do them properly?
They're a fiver each, and aren't that dangerous.
The Covered End lit up in red smoke would actually look pretty good (cough cough)
Plus the collective tutting from the West Stand would be defeaning.
I sit in the Upper West next to the Covered End. There are old boys in there that were going to Charlton before you people were born. They don't tut,they just sit there watching their team regardless of what is going on around them.
I'd we're going to do smoke bombs can we at least do them properly?
They're a fiver each, and aren't that dangerous.
The Covered End lit up in red smoke would actually look pretty good (cough cough)
Plus the collective tutting from the West Stand would be defeaning.
I sit in the Upper West next to the Covered End. There are old boys in there that were going to Charlton before you people were born. They don't tut,they just sit there watching their team regardless of what is going on around them.
I'd we're going to do smoke bombs can we at least do them properly?
They're a fiver each, and aren't that dangerous.
The Covered End lit up in red smoke would actually look pretty good (cough cough)
Plus the collective tutting from the West Stand would be defeaning.
I sit in the Upper West next to the Covered End. There are old boys in there that were going to Charlton before you people were born. They don't tut,they just sit there watching their team regardless of what is going on around them.
I'd we're going to do smoke bombs can we at least do them properly?
They're a fiver each, and aren't that dangerous.
The Covered End lit up in red smoke would actually look pretty good (cough cough)
Plus the collective tutting from the West Stand would be defeaning.
I sit in the Upper West next to the Covered End. There are old boys in there that were going to Charlton before you people were born. They don't tut,they just sit there watching their team regardless of what is going on around them.
Jesus wept, it was a joke. Don't get so aggy.
I'm not getting aggy, Gary. That West Stand joke has been done to death. It's dull. Big fan of yours.
I'd we're going to do smoke bombs can we at least do them properly?
They're a fiver each, and aren't that dangerous.
The Covered End lit up in red smoke would actually look pretty good (cough cough)
Plus the collective tutting from the West Stand would be defeaning.
I sit in the Upper West next to the Covered End. There are old boys in there that were going to Charlton before you people were born. They don't tut,they just sit there watching their team regardless of what is going on around them.
Jesus wept, it was a joke. Don't get so aggy.
I'm not getting aggy, Gary. That West Stand joke has been done to death. It's dull. Big fan of yours.
I'd we're going to do smoke bombs can we at least do them properly?
They're a fiver each, and aren't that dangerous.
The Covered End lit up in red smoke would actually look pretty good (cough cough)
Plus the collective tutting from the West Stand would be defeaning.
I sit in the Upper West next to the Covered End. There are old boys in there that were going to Charlton before you people were born. They don't tut,they just sit there watching their team regardless of what is going on around them.
FFS it's a bit of red smoke. Why do people feel the need to bring up such insignificant things when you there's so much more to be worried about. Please never go watch a game on the continent.
Sat at a Malmo home game next to the head of security (brother-in-law). When home team scored a few flares went off 'in' the stand amongst the fans and couldn't see shit. I asked him why the group of firemen sat at the corner of the stand (clearly there for this purpose) weren't going in to put them out. His response was "would you get in with that bunch of idiots". Incidentally their ground is built to flex for when the fans bounce frequently as without his the stadium would crumble as three home stands bounce in unison. As for flares at football not too offended but wouldn't bring them myself.
watching the video back there was actually two thrown, the first smoke bomb just misses people and makes it to concrete before the pitch, the 2nd (that actually remained lit) again only just made the pitch.
Just been reading a toxicology report on smoke grenades from tests carried out in 1966 and 67 This was an American report on the m18 smoke grenade. From what I understand red smoke only killed 140 test animals on day 1. Green smoke killed 201 test animals and Violet smoke about 160. My conclusion is that it's a lot healthier to throw the red than any other colour tested!
Gotta be honest, the smokes I use for fumigation are hot. Hot to the point they melt and I have to put them in an old tin can before lighting them, just do I can even pick them up and take them away after, because they take a good 10 minutes to cool down enough to be able to touch em.
Gotta be honest, the smokes I use for fumigation are hot. Hot to the point they melt and I have to put them in an old tin can before lighting them, just do I can even pick them up and take them away after, because they take a good 10 minutes to cool down enough to be able to touch em.
The fumigation smokes are only to be used at the Den.
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So I started walking up the hill and all these fireworks and flares were being shot around at low level - I think they were rucking with the police. I kept my distance but some poor taxi driver was stuck there in traffic with his windows down. This flare looped in there, the cabbie tried putting it out but quickly ran off as within 2 minutes his car was a fireball.
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I was shitting myself to be honest, and I'd got a cheap ticket in their ultras. I considered just going back to my hotel. Instead I went to queue with a few hundred other people and a minute later rockets started flying at us. So a few hundred of us legged it, panicking, down some side streets whilst behind us these pyro scum bags launched fireworks at us or maybe the nearby police. Kiev fans were supposedly under lockdown so I figure it to have been locals.
Eventually I circled back, my eyes were stinging a bit but rather than tear gas I think it was all the gunpowder in the air. I then found the furthest, highest and safest corner I could in the ground whilst for the first 45 minutes a helicopter circled overhead. And I'm still waiting for an apology from CARD.
And for whoever threw it, I hope they don't have you on CCTV, it's a 3 month custodial sentence!
I think they make a good atmosphere...
Poor Daisy will be playing the victim even more now
They're a fiver each, and aren't that dangerous.
The Covered End lit up in red smoke would actually look pretty good (cough cough)
They don't tut,they just sit there watching their team regardless of what is going on around them.
Big fan of yours.
Proof if proof were needed that if one goes down your collar you've had it.
When home team scored a few flares went off 'in' the stand amongst the fans and couldn't see shit. I asked him why the group of firemen sat at the corner of the stand (clearly there for this purpose) weren't going in to put them out. His response was "would you get in with that bunch of idiots". Incidentally their ground is built to flex for when the fans bounce frequently as without his the stadium would crumble as three home stands bounce in unison. As for flares at football not too offended but wouldn't bring them myself.
I bet they loved your signals.