Another company to add to the black list. Next year's website can't be worse than the dross we've put up with this long but all businesses getting into bed with roly's toxic pantomime must henceforth be spurned. Guilt by association.
If they really cared, Target 20k should publicly disband and stop giving the club the opportunity to say they're dealing with fans. They may have good intentions but they're letting us and themselves down by perpetuating this charade
Seeing as the club are so keen to have the clubs history involved in the relaunch of the website they will have engaged with the museum to help carry out this task. Otherwise left up to the current regime we could have Alan Campbell shown as Graham Moore.
Well ITRM did the museum's new site but I haven't had a phone call from Tony Keone asking why it is called the South Stand as yet.
Is it up and running now Henry? If so can you post a link please?
Good to see the museum site up at last Henry! Particularly like the history pages. It is a lot more contemporary than the 'temporary site' that myself and John designed . I am sure you will add more pages, and perhaps a links page would be a good idea, as the navigation\menu tabs take a little time to negotiate. Excellent that you have a web presence again.
I did not notice the 'blog' 'tweet' \facebook 'link' that Clive edited?
We are working for the club that my family is now in its 4th generation of supporting. It could be Roland, Butros Butros Ghali or Peter Verney who owned the club - as Charlton fans with the knowledge to help our club we'd have done it regardless. The club will be here long after Roland is gone.
Whether or not they are paying us has no relevance on my personal stance.
Fwiw I am not at all happy with the way the club has gone since Roland's arrival. But I am an optimist and Believe we are heading in the right direction now and wish fans could differentiate between the owners decisions and those of the employees at the club who are trying to improve things - starting with a website.
So by not answering the question we can assume the club are paying you.
I guess the well negotiated deal with ITRM for shirt sponsorship will involve ITRM inflating their fees for the website by 30% over standard rates and getting shirt sponsorship for knocking 20% off the final bill.
Whatever the club do with the site in future, it's hard to imagine that it could be as bad as the current site. I paid a rare visit trying to find a list of pre-season friendlies and stumbled upon this:
I couldn't find what I was looking for there (I rarely ever can) but I was in for a shock to find out that what I'd thought was our record breaking season 2011-12 didn't actually see us with 101 points, but with the rather dismal relegation level 40.
We are working for the club that my family is now in its 4th generation of supporting. It could be Roland, Butros Butros Ghali or Peter Verney who owned the club - as Charlton fans with the knowledge to help our club we'd have done it regardless. The club will be here long after Roland is gone.
Whether or not they are paying us has no relevance on my personal stance.
Fwiw I am not at all happy with the way the club has gone since Roland's arrival. But I am an optimist and Believe we are heading in the right direction now and wish fans could differentiate between the owners decisions and those of the employees at the club who are trying to improve things - starting with a website.
So by not answering the question we can assume the club are paying you.
Why else would they be doing it ?
That is not the point, Swisdom should have given a straight yes or no.
The last player content was highlights of the Swindon match, and then, despite a lot of subsequent great activity with the U23'S it remained the same for over a month. Leaving an empty space we were paying for. Then the player service was summarily stopped for subscribers with a paltry take it or leave it refund which in my case I disputed and got nowhere when they used the 'we are never wrong' method of response. The now defunct player service is still advertised right up there on the current OS. There is no new website, or alternative to the player service available. The team play the first PSF in Ireland on Monday week, and it has been put out there that there will be full coverage, but I fail to see how. If it is on sodding Facebook then that means we would be obliged to join up with that poxy platform to follow the coverage, it might be covered on the clubs YouTube thing but we don't know. I intend to go the game in Limerick, but as I will be with Mrs Plum I am still trying to think up a strategy for getting to the UCD game when I take her to Dublin for the day. The communications team might well be a bunch of essentially nice young guys, but I wish they were much better at their actual jobs.
The last player content was highlights of the Swindon match, and then, despite a lot of subsequent great activity with the U23'S it remained the same for over a month. Leaving an empty space we were paying for. Then the player service was summarily stopped for subscribers with a paltry take it or leave it refund which in my case I disputed and got nowhere when they used the 'we are never wrong' method of response. The now defunct player service is still advertised right up there on the current OS. There is no new website, or alternative to the player service available. The team play the first PSF in Ireland on Monday week, and it has been put out there that there will be full coverage, but I fail to see how. If it is on sodding Facebook then that means we would be obliged to join up with that poxy platform to follow the coverage, it might be covered on the clubs YouTube thing but we don't know. I intend to go the game in Limerick, but as I will be with Mrs Plum I am still trying to think up a strategy for getting to the UCD game when I take her to Dublin for the day. The communications team might well be a bunch of essentially nice young guys, but I wish they were much better at their actual jobs.
It'll likely be on YouTube if they're showing match highlights/interviews or even games. No need to burn the comms team, they're held back by management decisions and I would expect can only publish when cleared to.
The last player content was highlights of the Swindon match, and then, despite a lot of subsequent great activity with the U23'S it remained the same for over a month. Leaving an empty space we were paying for. Then the player service was summarily stopped for subscribers with a paltry take it or leave it refund which in my case I disputed and got nowhere when they used the 'we are never wrong' method of response. The now defunct player service is still advertised right up there on the current OS. There is no new website, or alternative to the player service available. The team play the first PSF in Ireland on Monday week, and it has been put out there that there will be full coverage, but I fail to see how. If it is on sodding Facebook then that means we would be obliged to join up with that poxy platform to follow the coverage, it might be covered on the clubs YouTube thing but we don't know. I intend to go the game in Limerick, but as I will be with Mrs Plum I am still trying to think up a strategy for getting to the UCD game when I take her to Dublin for the day. The communications team might well be a bunch of essentially nice young guys, but I wish they were much better at their actual jobs.
Seth you should have mentioned this before. ;-)
I'm sure that I read the new website goes live in July - that is when the new video features that were being used as an incentive to but a season ticket were promised to start.
I just assume that the contract we signed with the FLi people finishes. Players contracts end on 30th July it makes sense for the website contract to finish on the same date. If this is the case the new website should go live tomorrow, in time for the friendlies in Ireland. Even though many won't have subscribed, those that renewed season tickets before the deadline will have access to it.
I can't wait for the new website to launch. As soon as it does we're guaranteed to get 27,000 at The Valley every week. I just worry if we'll have enough bouncy castles, rave music and vol-au-vents to satisfy the customers.
The last player content was highlights of the Swindon match, and then, despite a lot of subsequent great activity with the U23'S it remained the same for over a month. Leaving an empty space we were paying for. Then the player service was summarily stopped for subscribers with a paltry take it or leave it refund which in my case I disputed and got nowhere when they used the 'we are never wrong' method of response. The now defunct player service is still advertised right up there on the current OS. There is no new website, or alternative to the player service available. The team play the first PSF in Ireland on Monday week, and it has been put out there that there will be full coverage, but I fail to see how. If it is on sodding Facebook then that means we would be obliged to join up with that poxy platform to follow the coverage, it might be covered on the clubs YouTube thing but we don't know. I intend to go the game in Limerick, but as I will be with Mrs Plum I am still trying to think up a strategy for getting to the UCD game when I take her to Dublin for the day. The communications team might well be a bunch of essentially nice young guys, but I wish they were much better at their actual jobs.
It'll likely be on YouTube if they're showing match highlights/interviews or even games. No need to burn the comms team, they're held back by management decisions and I would expect can only publish when cleared to.
I accept that I have a thing about the Comms team that stretches back a fair distance to the days when the likes of Jamie Reed and Emma did the match commentaries and failed to describe the action, or the in house voluntary commentators reporting long trips away to northern clubs to commentate which they were obliged to do entirely at their own expense in terms of travel and equipment, even though subscribers were paying in actual money. The suffering of the in house commentators was sometimes used to justify a poor service and my thoughts at the time is they should take it up with the club or 'player' rather than take it out on the subscribers. We have had the sale of equipment from the electrical overflow draw indicating desperation, and we have had an unsafe PA system that has only just got a bit better. There was also a dreadful mistake regarding a memorial moment which was pitiful but I am sure not deliberate. If the Comms team are undermined by the club then they can be in Katrien or Tony's ear every day if they like. Mel Baroni chose a different method.
Are we meant to be getting a new website? Also a new player type program? Does anyone have an update on this?
In the season ticket marketing I'm sure it said the new player program was from 1.7 so that's tomorrow. Otherwise I've not heard.
Cheers, I actually was one of those who renewed before (I was always going to renew) and now being a long way from London I thought it's probably worth doing it to get it. I also had that date in my mind also. I thought I'd pop it on here rather than email the club as I probably wouldn't get a reply.
The last player content was highlights of the Swindon match, and then, despite a lot of subsequent great activity with the U23'S it remained the same for over a month. Leaving an empty space we were paying for. Then the player service was summarily stopped for subscribers with a paltry take it or leave it refund which in my case I disputed and got nowhere when they used the 'we are never wrong' method of response. The now defunct player service is still advertised right up there on the current OS. There is no new website, or alternative to the player service available. The team play the first PSF in Ireland on Monday week, and it has been put out there that there will be full coverage, but I fail to see how. If it is on sodding Facebook then that means we would be obliged to join up with that poxy platform to follow the coverage, it might be covered on the clubs YouTube thing but we don't know. I intend to go the game in Limerick, but as I will be with Mrs Plum I am still trying to think up a strategy for getting to the UCD game when I take her to Dublin for the day. The communications team might well be a bunch of essentially nice young guys, but I wish they were much better at their actual jobs.
It'll likely be on YouTube if they're showing match highlights/interviews or even games. No need to burn the comms team, they're held back by management decisions and I would expect can only publish when cleared to.
I accept that I have a thing about the Comms team that stretches back a fair distance to the days when the likes of Jamie Reed and Emma did the match commentaries and failed to describe the action, or the in house voluntary commentators reporting long trips away to northern clubs to commentate which they were obliged to do entirely at their own expense in terms of travel and equipment, even though subscribers were paying in actual money. The suffering of the in house commentators was sometimes used to justify a poor service and my thoughts at the time is they should take it up with the club or 'player' rather than take it out on the subscribers. We have had the sale of equipment from the electrical overflow draw indicating desperation, and we have had an unsafe PA system that has only just got a bit better. There was also a dreadful mistake regarding a memorial moment which was pitiful but I am sure not deliberate. If the Comms team are undermined by the club then they can be in Katrien or Tony's ear every day if they like. Mel Baroni chose a different method.
The last player content was highlights of the Swindon match, and then, despite a lot of subsequent great activity with the U23'S it remained the same for over a month. Leaving an empty space we were paying for. Then the player service was summarily stopped for subscribers with a paltry take it or leave it refund which in my case I disputed and got nowhere when they used the 'we are never wrong' method of response. The now defunct player service is still advertised right up there on the current OS. There is no new website, or alternative to the player service available. The team play the first PSF in Ireland on Monday week, and it has been put out there that there will be full coverage, but I fail to see how. If it is on sodding Facebook then that means we would be obliged to join up with that poxy platform to follow the coverage, it might be covered on the clubs YouTube thing but we don't know. I intend to go the game in Limerick, but as I will be with Mrs Plum I am still trying to think up a strategy for getting to the UCD game when I take her to Dublin for the day. The communications team might well be a bunch of essentially nice young guys, but I wish they were much better at their actual jobs.
It'll likely be on YouTube if they're showing match highlights/interviews or even games. No need to burn the comms team, they're held back by management decisions and I would expect can only publish when cleared to.
I accept that I have a thing about the Comms team that stretches back a fair distance to the days when the likes of Jamie Reed and Emma did the match commentaries and failed to describe the action, or the in house voluntary commentators reporting long trips away to northern clubs to commentate which they were obliged to do entirely at their own expense in terms of travel and equipment, even though subscribers were paying in actual money. The suffering of the in house commentators was sometimes used to justify a poor service and my thoughts at the time is they should take it up with the club or 'player' rather than take it out on the subscribers. We have had the sale of equipment from the electrical overflow draw indicating desperation, and we have had an unsafe PA system that has only just got a bit better. There was also a dreadful mistake regarding a memorial moment which was pitiful but I am sure not deliberate. If the Comms team are undermined by the club then they can be in Katrien or Tony's ear every day if they like. Mel Baroni chose a different method.
The last player content was highlights of the Swindon match, and then, despite a lot of subsequent great activity with the U23'S it remained the same for over a month. Leaving an empty space we were paying for. Then the player service was summarily stopped for subscribers with a paltry take it or leave it refund which in my case I disputed and got nowhere when they used the 'we are never wrong' method of response. The now defunct player service is still advertised right up there on the current OS. There is no new website, or alternative to the player service available. The team play the first PSF in Ireland on Monday week, and it has been put out there that there will be full coverage, but I fail to see how. If it is on sodding Facebook then that means we would be obliged to join up with that poxy platform to follow the coverage, it might be covered on the clubs YouTube thing but we don't know. I intend to go the game in Limerick, but as I will be with Mrs Plum I am still trying to think up a strategy for getting to the UCD game when I take her to Dublin for the day. The communications team might well be a bunch of essentially nice young guys, but I wish they were much better at their actual jobs.
It'll likely be on YouTube if they're showing match highlights/interviews or even games. No need to burn the comms team, they're held back by management decisions and I would expect can only publish when cleared to.
I accept that I have a thing about the Comms team that stretches back a fair distance to the days when the likes of Jamie Reed and Emma did the match commentaries and failed to describe the action, or the in house voluntary commentators reporting long trips away to northern clubs to commentate which they were obliged to do entirely at their own expense in terms of travel and equipment, even though subscribers were paying in actual money. The suffering of the in house commentators was sometimes used to justify a poor service and my thoughts at the time is they should take it up with the club or 'player' rather than take it out on the subscribers. We have had the sale of equipment from the electrical overflow draw indicating desperation, and we have had an unsafe PA system that has only just got a bit better. There was also a dreadful mistake regarding a memorial moment which was pitiful but I am sure not deliberate. If the Comms team are undermined by the club then they can be in Katrien or Tony's ear every day if they like. Mel Baroni chose a different method.
Just to clarify, that has never happened.
It may well have never happened, but that is not how it was reported at the time, both on the commentary itself, on the Sunday night programme, and in emails I exchanged when complaining about Jamie Reed. I am quite clear that several times I brought up the notion that as we were paying to subscribe then the in house commentary team should not be out of pocket. Thank you for your 'clarification', but I am sure that the message put out was different. Communications issue.
The last player content was highlights of the Swindon match, and then, despite a lot of subsequent great activity with the U23'S it remained the same for over a month. Leaving an empty space we were paying for. Then the player service was summarily stopped for subscribers with a paltry take it or leave it refund which in my case I disputed and got nowhere when they used the 'we are never wrong' method of response. The now defunct player service is still advertised right up there on the current OS. There is no new website, or alternative to the player service available. The team play the first PSF in Ireland on Monday week, and it has been put out there that there will be full coverage, but I fail to see how. If it is on sodding Facebook then that means we would be obliged to join up with that poxy platform to follow the coverage, it might be covered on the clubs YouTube thing but we don't know. I intend to go the game in Limerick, but as I will be with Mrs Plum I am still trying to think up a strategy for getting to the UCD game when I take her to Dublin for the day. The communications team might well be a bunch of essentially nice young guys, but I wish they were much better at their actual jobs.
The U23s were covered online including live streaming the match against Hull City on FB Live where 198,000 people tuned in.
As mentioned before I gave you a direct email to try to assist your PlayerHD refund (which again to clarify is through the EFL and we have no control over with data protection) and I never received anything from you. I can't give any more help than that.
The new Valley Pass service which arrives when the new website launches will have coverage of Ireland and pre-season.
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Well done to all concerned.
Particularly like the history pages.
It is a lot more contemporary than the 'temporary site' that myself and John designed .
I am sure you will add more pages, and perhaps a links page would be a good idea, as the navigation\menu tabs take a little time to negotiate. Excellent that you have a web presence again.
I did not notice the 'blog' 'tweet' \facebook 'link' that Clive edited?
Whatever the club do with the site in future, it's hard to imagine that it could be as bad as the current site. I paid a rare visit trying to find a list of pre-season friendlies and stumbled upon this:
I couldn't find what I was looking for there (I rarely ever can) but I was in for a shock to find out that what I'd thought was our record breaking season 2011-12 didn't actually see us with 101 points, but with the rather dismal relegation level 40.
And Henry is always right.
;o)
(Note to any regime spies on here. Nah, that's sarcasm.)
The now defunct player service is still advertised right up there on the current OS.
There is no new website, or alternative to the player service available.
The team play the first PSF in Ireland on Monday week, and it has been put out there that there will be full coverage, but I fail to see how. If it is on sodding Facebook then that means we would be obliged to join up with that poxy platform to follow the coverage, it might be covered on the clubs YouTube thing but we don't know.
I intend to go the game in Limerick, but as I will be with Mrs Plum I am still trying to think up a strategy for getting to the UCD game when I take her to Dublin for the day.
The communications team might well be a bunch of essentially nice young guys, but I wish they were much better at their actual jobs.
I'm sure that I read the new website goes live in July - that is when the new video features that were being used as an incentive to but a season ticket were promised to start.
I just assume that the contract we signed with the FLi people finishes. Players contracts end on 30th July it makes sense for the website contract to finish on the same date. If this is the case the new website should go live tomorrow, in time for the friendlies in Ireland. Even though many won't have subscribed, those that renewed season tickets before the deadline will have access to it.
The suffering of the in house commentators was sometimes used to justify a poor service and my thoughts at the time is they should take it up with the club or 'player' rather than take it out on the subscribers.
We have had the sale of equipment from the electrical overflow draw indicating desperation, and we have had an unsafe PA system that has only just got a bit better. There was also a dreadful mistake regarding a memorial moment which was pitiful but I am sure not deliberate.
If the Comms team are undermined by the club then they can be in Katrien or Tony's ear every day if they like.
Mel Baroni chose a different method.
Thank you for your 'clarification', but I am sure that the message put out was different.
Communications issue.
As mentioned before I gave you a direct email to try to assist your PlayerHD refund (which again to clarify is through the EFL and we have no control over with data protection) and I never received anything from you. I can't give any more help than that.
The new Valley Pass service which arrives when the new website launches will have coverage of Ireland and pre-season.