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Is technology largely passing you by?

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    edited July 2016
    I hate Facebook's affect on me. I have to sit there scrolling through shit on a daily basis?

    Why? I don't enjoy it? I have to do it though? It's mental self harming.


    I plan to remove all the pages I follow, unless they actually add benefit to my life.

    I will then start stripping it back so it's like the original days. Family and close friends only.

    Back to when it was just a way of staying in contact with distant friends and family and organising a piss up, or a birthday meal.
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    Just out of curiosity what are the ages of people on here and whether they're for / against technology updates etc.

    i.e. Most youngsters these days seem to have been trained on using an iPhone whilst they were on the potty whilst the older generation have the attitude of: If it aint broken then why the need to replace it, and that things are made to last.

    I'm sensing a good idea for a poll here... ;)
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    edited July 2016
    28 - I like tech, but I miss the robust nature of older tech.

    I like the PS4, my ipad and my laptop. They all do everything I want/need.

    However, in the last couple of years I have started to hate modern mobiles.

    If I could have a phone that texts, calls and has what's app, that'd do fine.

    These are what a phone should do (Whatsapp is needed because it's the most common way people text now and is great for organising nights out, birthdays, stags etc!)

    I also hate my battery rinsing because it's fuelling a massive screen. When I had a Motorola M3788e there was none of that, the battery would last a week and you could defend yourself with it, in the event of an attack.
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    It even looks old compared to home phones now!
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    Dazzler21 said:

    28 - I like tech, but I miss the robust nature of older tech.

    If I could have a phone that texts, calls and has what's app, that'd do fine.

    These are what a phone should do. I hate my battery rinsing because it's fuelling a massive screen.

    I'm 33 in October

    I have an Android phone and its used for Texts / Calls / Reading / Internet / Working things at home.

    I've got Philips Hue / Hive at home because it saves on my Bills

    At the same time I think its a shame that Technology isnt made to last anymore and that within five minutes of the warranty ending, your gadget or whatever is a ticking time bomb to going from working to broken!!
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    sorry I went back into rant mode and made some edits there.

    I love tech, i just don't think practicality is included often enough any more.

    Hive looks great and I'll be getting that installed in my new home...
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    I'm 25 and love tech, the days of driverless cars, fridges that can restock themselves if needed and nano technology woven into clothing are nearly upon us and I can't wait!
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    I'm amazed the banks still issue cheques.
    It's about time they were fased in order to force people to get with the times .
    Electronic banking is easier and safer than cheque writing.
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    I'm amazed the banks still issue cheques.
    It's about time they were fased in order to force people to get with the times .
    Electronic banking is easier and safer than cheque writing.

    Our business tried to phase cheques out 10 years ago, stating they were no longer accepted as payment.

    Although they have reduced, we still get around 15% of payments through as cheques. Some of our customers don't even have a computer.
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    Dazzler21 said:

    sorry I went back into rant mode and made some edits there.

    I love tech, i just don't think practicality is included often enough any more.

    Hive looks great and I'll be getting that installed in my new home...

    Hive is brilliant as you can set schedules (as per the old system) yet if you want the heating to come on @ 20 degrees it'll only come on if the house is below that amount, if the house is warmer (or if it warms the house up to a higher temp), Hive will turn the heating off.
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    edited July 2016
    sam3110 said:

    I'm 25 and love tech, the days of driverless cars, fridges that can restock themselves if needed and nano technology woven into clothing are nearly upon us and I can't wait!

    Do you mean the little Dash buttons that you can buy...

    Where when your item is running low you can press it and an order is sent straight to Amazon?

    i.e. the fact you can order Condoms at the push of a button
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    Dazzler21 said:

    sorry I went back into rant mode and made some edits there.

    I love tech, i just don't think practicality is included often enough any more.

    Hive looks great and I'll be getting that installed in my new home...

    Hive is brilliant as you can set schedules (as per the old system) yet if you want the heating to come on @ 20 degrees it'll only come on if the house is below that amount, if the house is warmer (or if it warms the house up to a higher temp), Hive will turn the heating off.
    Out of curiosity how much does Hive cost and can it be fitted to older combi boilers?
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    Dazzler21 said:

    sorry I went back into rant mode and made some edits there.

    I love tech, i just don't think practicality is included often enough any more.

    Hive looks great and I'll be getting that installed in my new home...

    Hive is brilliant as you can set schedules (as per the old system) yet if you want the heating to come on @ 20 degrees it'll only come on if the house is below that amount, if the house is warmer (or if it warms the house up to a higher temp), Hive will turn the heating off.
    Out of curiosity how much does Hive cost and can it be fitted to older combi boilers?
    It cost me just under £200 ... (British Gas include Installation for free)

    I'm not sure in regards to the age of the boiler but my Combi is about six years old (or just under I cant remember)
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    That link is definitely NSFW... unsurprisingly I know this acronym well.
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    I'm amazed the banks still issue cheques.
    It's about time they were fased in order to force people to get with the times .
    Electronic banking is easier and safer than cheque writing.

    In 2015:

    558 million cheques were used for payments and to acquire cash across the UK.
    The Cheque and Credit Clearing Company cleared 404 million cheque payments in Great Britain with a total value of £455 billion.
    136 million cheques stayed for processing within the banks in Britain and 17 million were written and processed in Northern Ireland by the Belfast Bankers’ Clearing Company.
    The average value of a cheque in 2015 was £1,125, an increase from £1,074 in 2014.
    On average, 1.5 million cheques were cleared each day with an average daily value of around £1.7bn.
    The peak day for cheques in 2015 was Wednesday 8th April when 2.5 million of them were cleared.
    87% of UK charities regularly wrote and received cheques in 2015.
    Two-thirds of businesses believe that they would encounter problems if they were not provided with the facility to write cheques.
    57% of UK businesses said that they had received payments by cheque in the past month.
    42% of UK account holders made a payment by cheque.
    39% of UK account holders received payments by cheque.
    It is very rare for a cheque to bounce/be returned unpaid. Only around 0.5% of all cheques are returned unpaid each day.
    Over 90% of the 28 million items going through the credit clearing were for bill payments.
    £17.2 billion credit items were cleared with an average daily value of £614 per item.
    89,000 euro cheques were cleared with a total value of €1.6bn. The average daily value was €6.6 million with an average value of €18,622 per item.
    17,000 US Dollar cheques were cleared with a total value of $418.6 million.


    The high average value is of note. Presumably a reflection of how much cash @AFKABartram draws out each visit?

    I still use cheques but very occasionally, maybe once or twice a year. Some one-man-band tradespeople aren't geared up for electronic banking. In addition the security procedures in place for high value transfers electronically often mean it's actually easier to send a cheque.

    But I'm impressed that I can send a payment via my bank to my credit card company and get a "thanks for your payment" email the same day. I also use SEPA regularly to buy goods more cheaply in their country of origin rather than pay rip-off UK prices. I guess those days are numbered now though :-(
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    Dazzler21 said:

    A friend wants to know if PornHub actually has it's own app?

    A mate of mine has spent the last 24 hours seaching and he thinks not.
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    Just out of curiosity what are the ages of people on here and whether they're for / against technology updates etc.

    i.e. Most youngsters these days seem to have been trained on using an iPhone whilst they were on the potty whilst the older generation have the attitude of: If it aint broken then why the need to replace it, and that things are made to last.

    I'm sensing a good idea for a poll here... ;)

    48 and on the back of this thread, signed up for Internet banking yesterday. Why TF didn't I do it earlier?
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    edited July 2016

    Just out of curiosity what are the ages of people on here and whether they're for / against technology updates etc.

    i.e. Most youngsters these days seem to have been trained on using an iPhone whilst they were on the potty whilst the older generation have the attitude of: If it aint broken then why the need to replace it, and that things are made to last.

    I'm sensing a good idea for a poll here... ;)

    48 and on the back of this thread, signed up for Internet banking yesterday. Why TF didn't I do it earlier?
    Nice one, too many people are put off because they think it is unsafe. Now post your log-in details and I'll add you as a friend ;)
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    I was proud in 1970 when I started work as an engineer, to be part of the cutting edge technology.

    If you wanted to send in a message in written format this was it. The teleprinter seven came with a dial unit, a reperforator so that messages could be prepared and saved, a heavy metal table and a huge, incredibly heavy rectifier unit that could slip (I use the word loosely) behind the draw unit.

    How I marvelled as messages chugged out around the world at 50 boad (read very slowly) and on some shared international circuits at a half or even a quarter of that rate.

    The teleprinter was modified and stuck around for years and I never saw the changes that were afoot. However, once change began to take place the thing that struck me wasn’t so much change itself, but the rate of change.

    I recall some (maybe 15) years ago watching a live Spanish football match on satellite TV. My son was holidaying in Spain at the time and had told me he would probably attend a match there. I texted him and got an immediate response to say he was indeed at the game and where he was in the stadium. I remember at the time thinking, wow - satellite TV, instant international mobile communication - these things would have been science fiction to me as a kid . BTW I’m ‘only’ 62 now.

    Technology is an unstoppable force and one that we really have to embrace.
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    bobmunro said:

    Summin that did get me, the last time I was back in the UK, was me brother paying for beers in the boozer by touching his phone down to the credit card machine.

    I've got that set up on my phone but I don't dare to use it. Reckon I'd look a right prat if I did it wrong.
    That so made me laugh - I'm exactly the same!!
    And me, my challenge for this weekend is to use it. When I get to the shop I will ask the young person behind the till how to use it instead of waving my arms around like I'm at a disco.

    Will let you know how I get on.
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    I'm 51. I was brought up before computers and remember the first office computer in my department as a young civil servant. Where we are today and the pace of change is incredible but not without its downsides - in said office we had hundreds of administrative assistants and secretaries, none of whom now exist. Brilliant that we can all work so efficiently and have instant access to anything that we need (or really don't need) but the question in times of rising global populations and rapidly accelerating technology of what the hell everyone does for a living is something I just can get my head around.

    Anyway, enough of global evonomics and back to the toys. I guess I'm "in the top half of the middle" for my age bracket. I try to embrace technology. Im surgically attached to this iPhone, passively use Facebook but don't tweet and spend way to much time on here. I what's app, Spotify and bank/pay bills/shop online. I have a reasonably new car and find the st Nav indispensable (but can still navigate without one unlike a lot of people I know) and how the hell did we ever park before without the sensors? However, and here's the rub, I do all these things happily but I honestly haven't a clue what I'm doing. The language and jargon just means absolutely nothing. My iPhone or laptop break down at work and the IT boys tell me to do stuff and they might as well by talking in iswaeli. I just don't know and don't care what it's all about. I just want to know the easiest intuitive way to get it to do what I need it to.

    Oh, and Windows 10. You can shove that one right up yer jacksie.
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    Haha, how's this for timing? Last night I dreamt I was having a chat with AFKA about installing Hive at home. FFS, what has happened to me now I'm married. Why the hell was AFKA in my dream...

    I've always been a techy-geek ever since a small kid. Electronics fascinated me and I spent hours taking things apart to see how they were made and how they worked.

    I do a lot less of that now but my Mrs is a huge techy geek like me. Our house is full of gadgets. Hive, Sonos, wifi scales in the bathroom, a kettle tap in the kitchen which gives you instant boiling water, we've got two wifi networks, a bloody long ethernet cable going down the end of the garden to the log cabin gym/bar/office.

    It says everything when my 10yo comes to me at the weekend and says 'look Dad, I made a video of all the good stuff I've done this week' and she's edited a 4 min video on her iPad showing her schools 'race for life' event, her Gymnastics training, her playing with her cousins etc.

    Even my computer illiterate 69yo Dad has got his own iPad now and can search for houses on Right Move and check prices on Zoopla lol.

    Its brilliant what we can do now.

    On the downside of course, technology will make me redundant eventually. I work in a Uni doing Financial Reporting and Statistical Analysis. Due to our antiquated systems, I've manually built excel reports to do what we need but the system that is coming in shortly does absolutely everything. I'm told my job is not at risk but I dont believe them because I've got very little to do as it is!
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    JohnBoyUK said:

    Haha, how's this for timing? Last night I dreamt I was having a chat with AFKA about installing Hive at home. FFS, what has happened to me now I'm married. Why the hell was AFKA in my dream...

    I've always been a techy-geek ever since a small kid. Electronics fascinated me and I spent hours taking things apart to see how they were made and how they worked.

    I do a lot less of that now but my Mrs is a huge techy geek like me. Our house is full of gadgets. Hive, Sonos, wifi scales in the bathroom, a kettle tap in the kitchen which gives you instant boiling water, we've got two wifi networks, a bloody long ethernet cable going down the end of the garden to the log cabin gym/bar/office.

    It says everything when my 10yo comes to me at the weekend and says 'look Dad, I made a video of all the good stuff I've done this week' and she's edited a 4 min video on her iPad showing her schools 'race for life' event, her Gymnastics training, her playing with her cousins etc.

    Even my computer illiterate 69yo Dad has got his own iPad now and can search for houses on Right Move and check prices on Zoopla lol.

    Its brilliant what we can do now.

    On the downside of course, technology will make me redundant eventually. I work in a Uni doing Financial Reporting and Statistical Analysis. Due to our antiquated systems, I've manually built excel reports to do what we need but the system that is coming in shortly does absolutely everything. I'm told my job is not at risk but I dont believe them because I've got very little to do as it is!

    Are you techie enough to f**k the new system up before it starts being used?
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    I was proud in 1970 when I started work as an engineer, to be part of the cutting edge technology.

    If you wanted to send in a message in written format this was it. The teleprinter seven came with a dial unit, a reperforator so that messages could be prepared and saved, a heavy metal table and a huge, incredibly heavy rectifier unit that could slip (I use the word loosely) behind the draw unit.

    How I marvelled as messages chugged out around the world at 50 boad (read very slowly) and on some shared international circuits at a half or even a quarter of that rate.

    The teleprinter was modified and stuck around for years and I never saw the changes that were afoot. However, once change began to take place the thing that struck me wasn’t so much change itself, but the rate of change.

    I recall some (maybe 15) years ago watching a live Spanish football match on satellite TV. My son was holidaying in Spain at the time and had told me he would probably attend a match there. I texted him and got an immediate response to say he was indeed at the game and where he was in the stadium. I remember at the time thinking, wow - satellite TV, instant international mobile communication - these things would have been science fiction to me as a kid . BTW I’m ‘only’ 62 now.

    Technology is an unstoppable force and one that we really have to embrace.

    Brilliant post, Raith. I wonder what other 'new technologies' of the past people remember, but are now obsolete. When I first started work I was a diamond sorter. I loved the fact that I had a set of scales where if I pressed a button the weight of a diamond would be recorded on a computer screen (a huge box linked to a mainframe that could only display certain characters in green on a black background). In the next office they had a fax machine and that seemed incomprehensibly complex to me until I saw a demonstration on telly where two blokes demonstrated the basic principle by pushing two groundsman's line marking machines and shouting at each other. As a kid, my Binatone tennis machine seemed very cutting edge, especially as I had the one that had a pistol so you could play target practice. I also remember having one of the first tvs with a remote control. We didn't use it very often though as you had to plug it in and have a wire trailing across the floor. There were only three channels though so there wasn't a great deal of need. My parents used to moan, from their armchairs of course, that such innovations would turn the human race lazy.
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    This was all schools had to create copies of stuff when I was at school.

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    I remember having something like that when I was a union rep. You had to cut a stencil first and if you got the ink levels wrong there was a hell of a mess.
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    I used to love the smell of gastetners in the morning
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    edited July 2016
    How about these NCR jobbies?

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    Already ancient technology when something like this was brought in to replace handwritten leather bound ledgers and dip pens.....
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    The Pulsar P2 (Live and let die 1973)

    The watch can be seen on Bond's wrist in the first scene after the opening credits of the film. M comes knocking at Bond's door and Bond checks his Pulsar watch to see what time it is: 5:48 am. Bond demonstrates how to see the time, he pushes the button on the side of the watch, so that the LED time lights up. Bond demonstrates this twice, to make sure the audience sees this neat feature. (It was the only feature the watch had, furthermore the timing had to be set using a horseshoe shaped magnet which was hidden in the clasp. Groovy man.
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    Computers in the 50s and now

    Guess which one AFKA has



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