I don’t get the extreme negative stance towards RM. For an outsider like me he chose to leave some money in to stay involved and that presumably at the time was helpful to the then owners and what he wanted too.
He couldn’t have anticipated just how bad things would get under Slater and then RD. Did anyone have that foresight?
He apparently fell out with Varney but the details of that I assume are only known to those on the inside and seems to cloud much of this debate. That will have created obstacles to any consortium or interested parties Varney may have brought to the table but if RD is as money influenced as we assume this would have been overcome. Easy with hindsight to get too wound up on this because for a reasonable period RD did seem to be happy to fund the club albeit with poor choices and no need to entertain Varneys interested backers.
I personally like to think he genuinely thought he could temper and work with RD to some extent and probably believes he did manage to positively influence him on occasions but less than he or we wanted. RD is now clearly an autocrat and seemingly impossible to know how he thinks and influence for the better and I assume RM has also resigned to that.
He has correctly in my view said nothing in the last year as it would be fruitless. He isn’t really important in this any more.
Sorry, but have to disagree with almost everything you’ve said. RM has had countless opportunities to say something that could have changed the dynamics and outcome of the sale of our club in recent years.
He saw the outpouring of heartbreak from fans who collectively got together after home games during the larger post-game protests behind the west stand.
He still did nothing.
No anti comment No neutral comment No pro comment
To me, that’s unacceptable. He still has a high placing in Charlton history due to the Varney years, but he should no longer be fully respected for those decisions after his refusal to admit the wrongdoings of recent years.
I don’t get the extreme negative stance towards RM. For an outsider like me he chose to leave some money in to stay involved and that presumably at the time was helpful to the then owners and what he wanted too.
He couldn’t have anticipated just how bad things would get under Slater and then RD. Did anyone have that foresight?
He apparently fell out with Varney but the details of that I assume are only known to those on the inside and seems to cloud much of this debate. That will have created obstacles to any consortium or interested parties Varney may have brought to the table but if RD is as money influenced as we assume this would have been overcome. Easy with hindsight to get too wound up on this because for a reasonable period RD did seem to be happy to fund the club albeit with poor choices and no need to entertain Varneys interested backers.
I personally like to think he genuinely thought he could temper and work with RD to some extent and probably believes he did manage to positively influence him on occasions but less than he or we wanted. RD is now clearly an autocrat and seemingly impossible to know how he thinks and influence for the better and I assume RM has also resigned to that.
He has correctly in my view said nothing in the last year as it would be fruitless. He isn’t really important in this any more.
Sorry, but have to disagree with almost everything you’ve said. RM has had countless opportunities to say something that could have changed the dynamics and outcome of the sale of our club in recent years.
He saw the outpouring of heartbreak from fans who collectively got together after home games during the larger post-game protests behind the west stand.
He still did nothing.
No anti comment No neutral comment No pro comment
To me, that’s unacceptable. He still has a high placing in Charlton history due to the Varney years, but he should no longer be fully respected for those decisions after his refusal to admit the wrongdoings of recent years.
Murray you greedy little man you told us Duchalet had a master plan 5 years later, we’re stuck in league one. and you’ve got your tongue up Rolands bum.
Mr Murray when RD took control you said something along the lines of you would be the conduit between him and the fans. I know past statements you have made have not helped matters, as your hopes never materialised.
However, isn't it reasonable to hear a statement from yourself regarding Lee Bowyer and the sale of the club ?
Mr Murray when RD took control you said something along the lines of you would be the conduit between him and the fans. I know past statements you have made have not helped matters, as your hopes never materialised.
However, isn't it reasonable to hear a statement from yourself regarding Lee Bowyer and the sale of the club ?
I understand he has entered a monastic order & taken a vow of silence.
I dislike him more than RD if that’s possible . Least we know RD doesn’t care but he’s supposed to be a supporter, yet he’s silence is deafening. He is complicit to everything RD does. I’m amazed how he’s been let off so easily by the fans . The man is a weasel
I just hope that when we do finally get rid of RD , Murray shuffles off with his money never to be seen again.
Worst thing about the playoff final was seeing him up there with the players at trophy presentation. Really don't want him involved with any future owners but got a feeling he will be.
Mr Murray when RD took control you said something along the lines of you would be the conduit between him and the fans. I know past statements you have made have not helped matters, as your hopes never materialised.
However, isn't it reasonable to hear a statement from yourself regarding Lee Bowyer and the sale of the club ?
We're beyond that point sadly, his words mean nothing now.
Worst thing about the playoff final was seeing him up there with the players at trophy presentation. Really don't want him involved with any future owners but got a feeling he will be.
I'm fairly sure he will as well, having cut a deal over his loan for a seat at the top table. It's a drug he just can't do without.
Is it possible the reason we have not heard from Murray is the number one thing he wants is not the health of the club, but to get his own loan money back?
Is it possible the reason we have not heard from Murray is the number one thing he wants is not the health of the club, but to get his own loan money back?
I don’t think he’s bothered about the money. He just wants his seat at the top table. It’s all about his ego.
Is it possible the reason we have not heard from Murray is the number one thing he wants is not the health of the club, but to get his own loan money back?
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Time for Murray to go too.
He saw the outpouring of heartbreak from fans who collectively got together after home games during the larger post-game protests behind the west stand.
He still did nothing.
No anti comment
No neutral comment
No pro comment
To me, that’s unacceptable. He still has a high placing in Charlton history due to the Varney years, but he should no longer be fully respected for those decisions after his refusal to admit the wrongdoings of recent years.
Ooh Aah
Why don't you tell us
What's Going On ?
Repeat
But not as good as the Roland song.
Murray, what a mess."
Hey Richard Murray
Ooh Ash
Why you're such a c***
You should be on the radio.
you told us Duchalet had a master plan
5 years later, we’re stuck in league one.
and you’ve got your tongue up Rolands bum.
oohaah
wants to know
if he can touch your bum
However, isn't it reasonable to hear a statement from yourself regarding Lee Bowyer and the sale of the club ?
abd he ain’t been silent he put out last weeks press release about the directors 100% it was his words
I just hope that when we do finally get rid of RD , Murray shuffles off with his money never to be seen again.
When will we start giving him some serious grief?
Really don't want him involved with any future owners but got a feeling he will be.
From hero to zero.
He spoke last week
Dear Richard Murray,
"You're a sheep/creep, you're a weirdo,
What the hell are you still doing here?
You don't belong here"