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Ahmed Kashi Injury (p3 - 12/7 out for another 4 months)

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  • Has he had surgery before on the injury? Seems an identical situation to Igors achilles injury
  • edited October 2016
    so, the ball went into the box 23 times but we only got onto the end of 2 of them. Shows me that :

    1) we need to improve our crossing
    2) need more bodies in the box when crosses come in
    3) one up with JJ (slowest midfielder in history) in the hole ISNT the answer.

    ignoring tonite, we have 10 days to practice this in training & RS should be aiming for at least a 50% success rate.
  • Never going to play for Charlton again. Might as well pay up his contract

    Agreed.

    More chance of me playing for Charlton than the fella.
    Bring your boots tonight Elfs :)
  • Never going to play for Charlton again. Might as well pay up his contract

    Agreed.

    More chance of me playing for Charlton than the fella.
    Bring your boots tonight Elfs :)
    Best only have a shandy in the boozer then.
  • Dazzler21 said:

    cabbles said:

    He would make a huge difference in our horrendous midfield if fit, shame he's totally crocked.

    I have a feeling he'll come back and not have the impact we all think he will. This will be a combination of his injury, and not being as good as we think he is. Certainly not the saviour of a central midfield
    He's a lot better than Crofts
    Agreed but being better than Crofts isn't enough. Also, I seem to remember Kashi adopting a deeper role, combative etc. Yes we need that, but we're crying out for a bit guile and creativity even more so.
  • Unbelievable really.

    I know players get injured and its part of the game, but we are a shambles when it comes to getting these things sorted out.
  • Off_it said:

    Unbelievable really.

    I know players get injured and its part of the game, but we are a shambles when it comes to getting these things sorted out.

    Which seems to have been the root of the problem, one year ago.

  • On a lighter note, I watched his TV programme the other day. Kash in the Addicks.

    That was dreadful ...... but I gave you a lol anyway!

  • I genuinely opened this thread expecting to see a post saying he was a surprise inclusion in tonight's squad, should have known better. Good luck to him. Must be +18 months out by the time he will have any chance of being back.
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  • Can't be bothered to go back through this post, but if I did I would find I predicted this!
  • Why does he need to go to Qatar for surgery? Is this yet another case of one of our players having lost all faith in our medical treatment !
    It doesn't add up, he had surgery here then played a couple of games before breaking down again. Yet somehow, despite doing next to nothing on the pitch he has accumulated "lots of debris in there" according to Slade. First Vetokele, now Kashi. It seems that joining Charlton can be very dangerous for your career.

    So to be fair, I highly doubt we have an orthopedic surgeon on staff. I don't know of any club or sporting team that could perform this procedure "in house."

    Also, when Slade talks about "debris," he almost certainly means scar tissue.

    This is the risk of operating on the Achilles Tendon. It is almost certainly why we waited two months last year for his injury to heal on its own. When you operate on the Achilles, there is a risk that, because it's so tightly wound, you could tear it. Or, more commonly, you can fix the tear that exists, but the result is a large build up of scar tissue during healing. My guess is that the latter is what has happened here.

    For as many things as we can criticize our previous medical staff for, I think they did what most doctors would have done, and what has happened with me in the past--wait for it to heal on its own. Kashi is dealing with the side effect of surgery now.

    This, of course, does not explain why this didn't happen/wasn't diagnosed in the off season or why it's been left so late this season (which concerns me given we had an overhaul of our medical team this year).
  • He will never play for us sgain because when we get relegated to div 4. We will have to cut the budget so we won't be able to afford his wages.when and where will this end
  • SDAddick said:

    Why does he need to go to Qatar for surgery? Is this yet another case of one of our players having lost all faith in our medical treatment !
    It doesn't add up, he had surgery here then played a couple of games before breaking down again. Yet somehow, despite doing next to nothing on the pitch he has accumulated "lots of debris in there" according to Slade. First Vetokele, now Kashi. It seems that joining Charlton can be very dangerous for your career.

    So to be fair, I highly doubt we have an orthopedic surgeon on staff. I don't know of any club or sporting team that could perform this procedure "in house."

    Also, when Slade talks about "debris," he almost certainly means scar tissue.

    This is the risk of operating on the Achilles Tendon. It is almost certainly why we waited two months last year for his injury to heal on its own. When you operate on the Achilles, there is a risk that, because it's so tightly wound, you could tear it. Or, more commonly, you can fix the tear that exists, but the result is a large build up of scar tissue during healing. My guess is that the latter is what has happened here.

    For as many things as we can criticize our previous medical staff for, I think they did what most doctors would have done, and what has happened with me in the past--wait for it to heal on its own. Kashi is dealing with the side effect of surgery now.

    This, of course, does not explain why this didn't happen/wasn't diagnosed in the off season or why it's been left so late this season (which concerns me given we had an overhaul of our medical team this year).
    No SD, I didn't mean in house. I know from experience that professional clubs tend to send their players to their preferred surgeon for specific injuries. I, for many years, worked with a guy named John Ireland who was renowned for knee arthroscopies, and we operated on players from Arsenal, Palace and Orient. There are numerous such specialists in Harley Street who are world renowned in their areas of expertise. The term "debris" is more applicable to floating tissue as found in the knee synovial fluid from cartilage degeneration or injury. Achilles tendon repair is actually a relatively simple procedure of reapproximating the tendon fibres back together with strong suture. The most difficult part is the Anaesthetic because the patient has to be face down on the operating table and ventilated.

  • Why has he only just had an op? He broke down with it again in the summer didn't he?
  • Why has he only just had an op? He broke down with it again in the summer didn't he?

    I believe from others on here, it's because an operation can lead to scar tissue, which can cause a problem.

    So they prefer for the injury to heal naturally if it will.
  • We'll never see him in a Charlton shirt again. Of that I'm sure.
  • SDAddick said:

    Why does he need to go to Qatar for surgery? Is this yet another case of one of our players having lost all faith in our medical treatment !
    It doesn't add up, he had surgery here then played a couple of games before breaking down again. Yet somehow, despite doing next to nothing on the pitch he has accumulated "lots of debris in there" according to Slade. First Vetokele, now Kashi. It seems that joining Charlton can be very dangerous for your career.

    So to be fair, I highly doubt we have an orthopedic surgeon on staff. I don't know of any club or sporting team that could perform this procedure "in house."

    Also, when Slade talks about "debris," he almost certainly means scar tissue.

    This is the risk of operating on the Achilles Tendon. It is almost certainly why we waited two months last year for his injury to heal on its own. When you operate on the Achilles, there is a risk that, because it's so tightly wound, you could tear it. Or, more commonly, you can fix the tear that exists, but the result is a large build up of scar tissue during healing. My guess is that the latter is what has happened here.

    For as many things as we can criticize our previous medical staff for, I think they did what most doctors would have done, and what has happened with me in the past--wait for it to heal on its own. Kashi is dealing with the side effect of surgery now.

    This, of course, does not explain why this didn't happen/wasn't diagnosed in the off season or why it's been left so late this season (which concerns me given we had an overhaul of our medical team this year).
    No SD, I didn't mean in house. I know from experience that professional clubs tend to send their players to their preferred surgeon for specific injuries. I, for many years, worked with a guy named John Ireland who was renowned for knee arthroscopies, and we operated on players from Arsenal, Palace and Orient. There are numerous such specialists in Harley Street who are world renowned in their areas of expertise. The term "debris" is more applicable to floating tissue as found in the knee synovial fluid from cartilage degeneration or injury. Achilles tendon repair is actually a relatively simple procedure of reapproximating the tendon fibres back together with strong suture. The most difficult part is the Anaesthetic because the patient has to be face down on the operating table and ventilated.

    ::Doffs Cap::

    Also, floating tissue is usually scar tissue I believe, but I think we're splitting hairs there.
  • Dazzler21 said:

    Why does he need to go to Qatar for surgery? Is this yet another case of one of our players having lost all faith in our medical treatment !
    It doesn't add up, he had surgery here then played a couple of games before breaking down again. Yet somehow, despite doing next to nothing on the pitch he has accumulated "lots of debris in there" according to Slade. First Vetokele, now Kashi. It seems that joining Charlton can be very dangerous for your career.

    Qatar has one of the world's leading sports injury surgeons - google ASPETAR for details.
    Bit late to the party on this........ but Aspetar is a FIFA accredited medical hospital with heaps of top surgeons, just signed a deal to become Spurs' medical partner too.
  • RedChaser said:

    Ahmed who? IF he gets fit I'll welcome him back with open arms but I'm not holding my breath I've already moved on.

    I'd forgotten all about him to be honest. Too excited about Ba making a comeback.
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  • cabbles said:

    He would make a huge difference in our horrendous midfield if fit, shame he's totally crocked.

    I have a feeling he'll come back and not have the impact we all think he will. This will be a combination of his injury, and not being as good as we think he is. Certainly not the saviour of a central midfield
    Well sir, you certainly called it.

    I don't think he's been bad, but certainly needs a decent option beside him.

  • Dazzler21 said:

    cabbles said:

    He would make a huge difference in our horrendous midfield if fit, shame he's totally crocked.

    I have a feeling he'll come back and not have the impact we all think he will. This will be a combination of his injury, and not being as good as we think he is. Certainly not the saviour of a central midfield
    Well sir, you certainly called it.

    I don't think he's been bad, but certainly needs a decent option beside him.

    He is what Cantona would call the "water carrier" of the team in that he should be getting the ball and passing it to the more talented players in the side. The difficulty comes when he is too far from those players to be able to find them - and this also assumes that we have more talented players to pass to. Which isn't always the case.
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