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Ireland v England - Sunday

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    Just watched the first half. England were disappointing.
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    Shelvey would do a better job than Wilshere in the creative midfielder role.
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    Arter is creating chances for Ireland... Do we regret letting him go?
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    Lifeless England performance once again
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    If you need a cure for insomnia then just watch a recording of that game.
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    Utterly pointless friendly at the end of a long season. The players would have probably got more out of another day of rest.
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    I gave up at 23 min that was woeful truly on par with Boro vs cafc in the prem on Monday night football
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    International friendly in June being shit shocker!!

    And Shelvey would do better than Wilshere? Please behave yourself.
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    not pointless in that there is a qualifying game next weekend. I only watched second half and apart from lacking a cutting edge, thought England were by far the better team. I'd like to see Shelvey and Wilshire - I think Henderson has improved a lot but he needs to find more goals in his game. Townsend looked good I thought.
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    not pointless in that there is a qualifying game next weekend. I only watched second half and apart from lacking a cutting edge, thought England were by far the better team. I'd like to see Shelvey and Wilshire - I think Henderson has improved a lot but he needs to find more goals in his game. Townsend looked good I thought.

    We were better in the second half. I guess the logic of playing such a game is that many of the players will be rusty after the break from the end of the season
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    Dropped a line to my England supporting pal who was there this afternoon as the subs were being made. Sterling obviously had to go as he was worn out from his latest dive and Wilshere obviously can't go any longer without a beer and a fag!

    Poor game. Hope we both do better next week!
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    TelMc32 said:

    Dropped a line to my England supporting pal

    You needed more than one line to get through that Tel

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    edited June 2015
    I think Wilshere comes in for some real harsh criticism.

    He does pick up silly injuries, and its often due to him holding onto the ball for too long but he's one of the most dynamic and forward thinking players we have. It wasnt long ago he picked up 3 MoM awards in a row for England. Him and Henderson seem to have a good understanding which was highlighted at HT on Itv. I personally think Shelvey is way behind Wilshere as a player.
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    TelMc32 said:

    Dropped a line to my England supporting pal

    You needed more than one line to get through that Tel

    Several pints of Guinness did it mate...it really was awful! As I said...hope we both do better when it matters next week :wink:
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    Still after what happened 20 years ago, I guess we should be thankful that the game passed without any incident...
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    I think Wilshere comes in for some real harsh criticism.

    He does pick up silly injuries, and its often due to him holding onto the ball for too long but he's one of the most dynamic and forward thinking players we have. It wasnt long ago he picked up 3 MoM awards in a row for England. Him and Henderson seem to have a good understanding which was highlighted at HT on Itv. I personally think Shelvey is way behind Wilshere as a player.

    Wilshire is suffering the fate of so many English players. He was hyped as a youngster as a superstar in the making - a ready made replacement for Fabregas at Arsenal and a fulcrum for England's midfield. For various reasons he hasn't reached that level, at least not yet. Some of it is his fault but the hype around him wasn't. However, because he hasn't lived up to the hype he's viewed as a disappointment and as we all know - all footballers are either brilliant or shit. Wilshire isn't brilliant ergo he must be shit. The reality is he's still decent and when fit better than most of what we've got as an alternative. Shelvey on the other hand, although decent enough himself, gets overrated on here because he's one of ours.
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    I feel very sorry for the supporters who paid to be at that game
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    Well that was blooming dull...
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    Not sure why Wilshere got praise at HT, other than their being ex-gooners there. Seemed either trying and failing to make difficult passes, fouling someone or complaining. How many chances did he actually fashion?

    I admit to being biased, (unlike the media with their gooner love) but I see Shelvey as better offensive passer than Wilshere. I don't see any Englishmen with a more consistent through ball than him. Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Wilshere, Jenkinson, Chambers all get more England caps because of who they play for and lauded in the press for the same reason. Sign for Arsenal - get a free England cap.

    And how poor was Rooney???

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    I feel very sorry for the supporters who paid to be at that game

    Dublin isn't that bad.
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    Vincenzo said:

    Not sure why Wilshere got praise at HT, other than their being ex-gooners there. Seemed either trying and failing to make difficult passes, fouling someone or complaining. How many chances did he actually fashion?

    I admit to being biased, (unlike the media with their gooner love) but I see Shelvey as better offensive passer than Wilshere. I don't see any Englishmen with a more consistent through ball than him. Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Wilshere, Jenkinson, Chambers all get more England caps because of who they play for and lauded in the press for the same reason. Sign for Arsenal - get a free England cap.

    And how poor was Rooney???

    He's a Gooner, standard practice
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    I think Wilshere comes in for some real harsh criticism.

    He does pick up silly injuries, and its often due to him holding onto the ball for too long but he's one of the most dynamic and forward thinking players we have. It wasnt long ago he picked up 3 MoM awards in a row for England. Him and Henderson seem to have a good understanding which was highlighted at HT on Itv. I personally think Shelvey is way behind Wilshere as a player.

    I agree, but Wilshere's a knob. And that really doesn't help.
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    But Wilshere was playing a deep role
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    Whilst enjoying a day gardening my wife asked what time the game kicked off and I said 'really?' I mean who cares? I don't.
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    Taxi_Lad said:

    But Wilshere was playing a deep role

    He could be playing deep purple for all i care, hes still a mook! :wink:
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    edited June 2015

    Whilst enjoying a day gardening my wife asked what time the game kicked off and I said 'really?' I mean who cares? I don't.

    Second time you've opened this thread to tell us that.

    I think its a real shame that people can't get excited for a game like Ireland v England
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