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Kelvin MacKenzie

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  • Does anyone really get surprised when they read ridiculous articles like this? I personally think KM and the sun know exactly what needs to be done to cause a stir and it seems like the majority of people are buying into it.
    To me it didn't come across as racism, I for one didn't know about his Nigerian connections, it came across as a poorly written article from someone trying to get attention/pick a fight which is exactly what he's got.
  • se9addick said:

    Chizz said:

    He's been spouting vile filth for far, far too long

    Is that real ? Surely not ?
    Maybe Kelvin got his information from an article like this one, with statistics from the American Centre for Disease Control :

    http://www.returnofkings.com/3882/the-truth-about-aids
    Deary me, I thought Breitbart was bad.
  • Kelvin mackenzie is a stain on humanity that being said i dont think there was a racist intent. Non story but i repeat Kelvin Macenzie is a stain on humanity
  • Interesting that his contribution came on the Eve of the Hillsborough tragedy that stopped huge numbers of Liverpudlians buying his newspaper. He hates them. Coincidence? Unlikely.
  • Kelvin mackenzie is a stain on humanity that being said i dont think there was a racist intent. Non story but i repeat Kelvin Macenzie is a stain on humanity

    The article had an image that compared his face to that of a gorilla. Barkley is of African descent (as the paper has previously reported). I genuinely don't believe it's relevant whether Mackenzie knew about the man's family or not in order for a race issue to arise out of that.
  • JiMMy 85 said:

    Kelvin mackenzie is a stain on humanity that being said i dont think there was a racist intent. Non story but i repeat Kelvin Macenzie is a stain on humanity

    The article had an image that compared his face to that of a gorilla. Barkley is of African descent (as the paper has previously reported). I genuinely don't believe it's relevant whether Mackenzie knew about the man's family or not in order for a race issue to arise out of that.
    We shall have to agree to disagree. For someone to be guilty ofnan offence there must be intent. If macenzie knew of his heritage n fine there is intent and therefore guilt. If mecenzie did not know of his heritage then im afraid you cant call him racist for making a comparison. That other place have been calling members of charlton life racist for discussiosn surrounding robinson due the continued use of the phrase 'scouse twat'. In my view if macenzie ,presuming he knew nothing of barkleys heritage, is no more racist then some one here.
  • JiMMy 85 said:

    Kelvin mackenzie is a stain on humanity that being said i dont think there was a racist intent. Non story but i repeat Kelvin Macenzie is a stain on humanity

    The article had an image that compared his face to that of a gorilla. Barkley is of African descent (as the paper has previously reported). I genuinely don't believe it's relevant whether Mackenzie knew about the man's family or not in order for a race issue to arise out of that.
    We shall have to agree to disagree. For someone to be guilty ofnan offence there must be intent. If macenzie knew of his heritage n fine there is intent and therefore guilt. If mecenzie did not know of his heritage then im afraid you cant call him racist for making a comparison. That other place have been calling members of charlton life racist for discussiosn surrounding robinson due the continued use of the phrase 'scouse twat'. In my view if macenzie ,presuming he knew nothing of barkleys heritage, is no more racist then some one here.
    I'd be surprised if he didn't know, but even if we assume that he didn't, then the very least he and his editor should have done, before making the a gorilla comparison in a major newspaper that sells in the hundreds of thousands, is do a 5 second wikipedia search on the subject of your piece to ensure that your comparison couldn't be misconstrued.

    The fact that KM and nobody else at the Sun could be bothered to do a fairly basic part of their job before publishing says a lot about them as an organisation.
  • Just to go a little off topic for a moment, it's worth having a look at Anderson's social media.

    I say this because the man is executive mayor of Liverpool - not some very part-time parish councillor. There's almost nothing on his accounts that isn't just about football. Rather than trawl back three years looking for proof of what we all knew anyway - that The Sun is a shit paper - perhaps he might be better employed actually getting on with his job? Why did he think it was his function to report the paper? Surely, that should have been down to Ross, his club or his advisers if he'd been bothered about it?

    BTW, I have a mate who is a Liverpool supporter. At this time of year I always get "shared" with all the Hillsborough stuff - it's seemingly endless. 28 years this time around. How much longer are we going to have to put up with this maudlin behaviour? Can't the scouse just get on with their lives and do a memorial, I don't know, every 10 years or whatever? If they really must. Or even better, can they just forget about it, like they appear to have done with Heysel?

    Football is now out of control on memorial stuff. They might as well include a black arm band in the manufacturing process for club shirts, they are in use so often.

    Rant over.
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  • All being said, It is unusual that the Bin Dippers are so easily offended!
  • The Sun have issued their apology today - I still can't get over how they say that no one in The Sun was aware of Barkley's heritage. Really? So a national newspaper with all the resources at its availablity and all those journalists and reporters, not one person in the system was aware.

    You couldn't make it up. As someone said on the election thread, can't wait to see what bile they've got planned for us between now and June 8th
  • Worse than that, the article calls him a gorilla who is so stupid there's nothing behind his eyes... and the apology says "no slur intended".

    What the actual fuck was intended?
  • edited April 22
    JiMMy 85 said:

    Worse than that, the article calls him a gorilla who is so stupid there's nothing behind his eyes... and the apology says "no slur intended".

    What the actual fuck was intended?

    The Sun like Gorillas and think they are cuddly.
  • edited April 22
    JiMMy 85 said:

    Worse than that, the article calls him a gorilla who is so stupid there's nothing behind his eyes... and the apology says "no slur intended".

    What the actual fuck was intended?

    I imagine the gorilla that Kelvin referenced thought, "Look at that specimen. Just blank it out." :wink:
  • And nothing at all to do with the fact that Murdoch is trying to make sure nothing gets in the way of his efforts to take complete control of Sky.
  • aliwibble said:

    And nothing at all to do with the fact that Murdoch is trying to make sure nothing gets in the way of his efforts to take complete control of Sky.

    He will probably bring Mackenzie back in a couple of years, a la Rebekah Wade / Brooks. To be fair to murdoch, he always seems prepared to help his worms out
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