Dare I say it, Morgan Fox was better last season than Solly.
Solly was tenacious but he blocks far fewer crosses into the box than Fox.
Solly isn't as good a crosser wither.
Solly however does cause mistakes he closes down better, he nips at the oppositions ankles like a rabid jack russell.
You are joking right?
Firstly, one of Solly's strengths is that he doesn't get beat by the winger, therefore blocking or defending well before he can even put in a cross.
I lost count of the amount of times Fox got beaten by the winger for him not to recover and before you know it, the ball has been crossed, taking him out the game.
Not to mention there would be at least 2/3 times every match where Fox crosses the ball into the stands, Solly is more controlled with his crosses than Fox.
You could argue that statistically, Fox may block more crosses, but that would be because opposition teams target his side more than Solly's, therefore the more crosses they put in the box on his side, the more he should block.
I'm not digging him out, I genuinely believe he could have a very good season in League One, the fact he won't be coming up against many brilliant wingers will help his game develop as he gains confidence.
Just a couple of your points had to be a joke, surely?
None were a joke.
They may have been over simplified points but Fox had some great games last season.
Granted I didn't get to as many games as most on here, but Fox is definitely put down a lot because he isn't a left footed Solly.
When a winger does pass Solly the block rarely occurs.
Fox does stand off the winger which isn't great but he does get a block in maybe a third to a half of the time when the winger beats him.
You even admit Solly is less tested than Fox
They both defend differently, as you said Fox stands off his player, giving him more room to maybe adjust to a block, whereas Solly is a proactive defender who will get into his winger a lot more, meaning he often doesn't have to put himself into a position to put a block in.
Fox is tested more than Solly due to Solly being a better defender and more effective at what he does.
As said, I believe Fox will have a very good season this year if he stays, and eventually I believe he will become a centre back and a good one at that. His experience at left back will help him hugely.
I do think that Holmes-Dennis will be a very good option this season, much better going forward than Fox and benefit more with an inadverted winger, such as Holmes if he plays on the left.
Dare I say it, Morgan Fox was better last season than Solly.
Solly was tenacious but he blocks far fewer crosses into the box than Fox.
Solly isn't as good a crosser wither.
Solly however does cause mistakes he closes down better, he nips at the oppositions ankles like a rabid jack russell.
You are joking right?
Firstly, one of Solly's strengths is that he doesn't get beat by the winger, therefore blocking or defending well before he can even put in a cross.
I lost count of the amount of times Fox got beaten by the winger for him not to recover and before you know it, the ball has been crossed, taking him out the game.
Not to mention there would be at least 2/3 times every match where Fox crosses the ball into the stands, Solly is more controlled with his crosses than Fox.
You could argue that statistically, Fox may block more crosses, but that would be because opposition teams target his side more than Solly's, therefore the more crosses they put in the box on his side, the more he should block.
I'm not digging him out, I genuinely believe he could have a very good season in League One, the fact he won't be coming up against many brilliant wingers will help his game develop as he gains confidence.
Just a couple of your points had to be a joke, surely?
None were a joke.
They may have been over simplified points but Fox had some great games last season.
Granted I didn't get to as many games as most on here, but Fox is definitely put down a lot because he isn't a left footed Solly.
When a winger does pass Solly the block rarely occurs.
Fox does stand off the winger which isn't great but he does get a block in maybe a third to a half of the time when the winger beats him.
You even admit Solly is less tested than Fox
Dazzler, can you please remind me of those great games Fox had last season ?
I never missed a home game & saw about 10 aways. I can't recall one.
Dare I say it, Morgan Fox was better last season than Solly.
Solly was tenacious but he blocks far fewer crosses into the box than Fox.
Solly isn't as good a crosser wither.
Solly however does cause mistakes he closes down better, he nips at the oppositions ankles like a rabid jack russell.
You are joking right?
Firstly, one of Solly's strengths is that he doesn't get beat by the winger, therefore blocking or defending well before he can even put in a cross.
I lost count of the amount of times Fox got beaten by the winger for him not to recover and before you know it, the ball has been crossed, taking him out the game.
Not to mention there would be at least 2/3 times every match where Fox crosses the ball into the stands, Solly is more controlled with his crosses than Fox.
You could argue that statistically, Fox may block more crosses, but that would be because opposition teams target his side more than Solly's, therefore the more crosses they put in the box on his side, the more he should block.
I'm not digging him out, I genuinely believe he could have a very good season in League One, the fact he won't be coming up against many brilliant wingers will help his game develop as he gains confidence.
Just a couple of your points had to be a joke, surely?
None were a joke.
They may have been over simplified points but Fox had some great games last season.
Granted I didn't get to as many games as most on here, but Fox is definitely put down a lot because he isn't a left footed Solly.
When a winger does pass Solly the block rarely occurs.
Fox does stand off the winger which isn't great but he does get a block in maybe a third to a half of the time when the winger beats him.
You even admit Solly is less tested than Fox
Dazzler, can you please remind me of those great games Fox had last season ?
I never missed a home game & saw about 10 aways. I can't recall one.
Middlesbrough at home... Kept Adomah in his pocket the whole match
Queens Park Rangers at home... What a strike that was for a Defender
Dare I say it, Morgan Fox was better last season than Solly.
Solly was tenacious but he blocks far fewer crosses into the box than Fox.
Solly isn't as good a crosser wither.
Solly however does cause mistakes he closes down better, he nips at the oppositions ankles like a rabid jack russell.
You are joking right?
Firstly, one of Solly's strengths is that he doesn't get beat by the winger, therefore blocking or defending well before he can even put in a cross.
I lost count of the amount of times Fox got beaten by the winger for him not to recover and before you know it, the ball has been crossed, taking him out the game.
Not to mention there would be at least 2/3 times every match where Fox crosses the ball into the stands, Solly is more controlled with his crosses than Fox.
You could argue that statistically, Fox may block more crosses, but that would be because opposition teams target his side more than Solly's, therefore the more crosses they put in the box on his side, the more he should block.
I'm not digging him out, I genuinely believe he could have a very good season in League One, the fact he won't be coming up against many brilliant wingers will help his game develop as he gains confidence.
Just a couple of your points had to be a joke, surely?
None were a joke.
They may have been over simplified points but Fox had some great games last season.
Granted I didn't get to as many games as most on here, but Fox is definitely put down a lot because he isn't a left footed Solly.
When a winger does pass Solly the block rarely occurs.
Fox does stand off the winger which isn't great but he does get a block in maybe a third to a half of the time when the winger beats him.
You even admit Solly is less tested than Fox
Dazzler, can you please remind me of those great games Fox had last season ?
I never missed a home game & saw about 10 aways. I can't recall one.
Middlesbrough at home... Kept Adomah in his pocket the whole match
Queens Park Rangers at home... What a strike that was for a Defender
I'd drive him to Sheffield myself for half of that if it was true (and I admire the way he's applied himself in the face of the criticism from me and others before I get pounced on. Now a solid league 1 full back. But £1.25 mill! Do me a favour)
Said it on the transfer rumours thread but actually very pleased we've kept Fox. He's had a few poor performances but he's young, he's improving week by week, he's rarely had protection in front of him, he's come through the academy and cares about the club. IMO these are the exact traits the likes of Curbishley looked for in a player.
We reject around £2 mil'n for Fox? !!! Yet sold Cousins for around £1.1 mil'n. Makes no sense at all IMO. Can only think it was to late for a replacement.
Yes his attitude is right but, he lacks any pace and when beaten seems uninterested in tracking back.
Water under the bridge now, but I cant help thinking would have been a more balanced squad if we'd taken the money and invested it in a goal scoring midfielder or 2.
He looked good going forward and I don't have a problem with Fox but let's be honest Port Vale were absolutely awful going forward he was put under zero pressure. If they were 7th just shows how utterly awful this league is and god knows what it says about us.
I am not a great lover of Morgan but he is young, broke into the 1st team, puts CAFC on his sleeve, is one of our own, is under intense pressure every week and just happened to have a blinder this week. We may not have scored without him Saturday.
Give the bloke praise and a break, it isn't that hard to say "Well Done Son".
Probably increasing in confidence now he's no longer playing against Championship level wingers every week.
Fox is a far better player than he is given credit for by a lot of our fans - as is the Charlton way once it's decided a player is 'shit' all objectivity goes out of the window and the player is then given up on by a lot of our support. I've heard some awful abuse hurled at Morgan by our own support yet he's just got on and done his job. He's an honest professional who works hard and deserves more credit.
Probably increasing in confidence now he's no longer playing against Championship level wingers every week.
Fox is a far better player than he is given credit for by a lot of our fans - as is the Charlton way once it's decided a player is 'shit' all objectivity goes out of the window and the player is then given up on by a lot of our support. I've heard some awful abuse hurled at Morgan by our own support yet he's just got on and done his job. He's an honest professional who works hard and deserves more credit.
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Fox is tested more than Solly due to Solly being a better defender and more effective at what he does.
As said, I believe Fox will have a very good season this year if he stays, and eventually I believe he will become a centre back and a good one at that. His experience at left back will help him hugely.
I do think that Holmes-Dennis will be a very good option this season, much better going forward than Fox and benefit more with an inadverted winger, such as Holmes if he plays on the left.
I never missed a home game & saw about 10 aways. I can't recall one.
I admit Fox isn't as good as Solly in general, but Solly looked very jaded last season.
I could see Fox at CB especially at this level.
Queens Park Rangers at home... What a strike that was for a Defender
With THD 'I want out boss'
With Fox 'I don't want to leave boss I want to get better here and fight for my place'
Words to that effect anyway.
As Slade has stated from day 1, if you aren't up for comeoeting for Charlton, you're out.
That's a good thing for me.
Am I the only one who finds this amusing?
The dismay that is projected that someone could actually refuse to accept the money offered by such a "massive" club is palpable.
But, hey, if you're the biggest club in the known universe, I suppose you're allowed a certain feeling of self entitlement...
Yes his attitude is right but, he lacks any pace and when beaten seems uninterested in tracking back.
Water under the bridge now, but I cant help thinking would have been a more balanced squad if we'd taken the money and invested it in a goal scoring midfielder or 2.
Two assists and he blocked a goal bound effort with his chest.
Credit where it's due, he was arguably our MOM & I can't remember that happening before.
I am not a great lover of Morgan but he is young, broke into the 1st team, puts CAFC on his sleeve, is one of our own, is under intense pressure every week and just happened to have a blinder this week. We may not have scored without him Saturday.
Give the bloke praise and a break, it isn't that hard to say "Well Done Son".
Solly has been consistently amazing for CAFC but not to the detriment of Fox always....
Probably increasing in confidence now he's no longer playing against Championship level wingers every week.
I've heard some awful abuse hurled at Morgan by our own support yet he's just got on and done his job. He's an honest professional who works hard and deserves more credit.