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Computer Bug.

Heard on the radio there is a serious Computer virus doing the rounds affecting all servers including Apple Mac,any one had problems with this.

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    http://www.vox.com/2014/9/25/6843949/the-bash-bug-explained

    This explains it pretty well. All us Mac users, hmmmm, not so smug now!
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    Just as well Apple has the users it does or this could spell trouble for them, along with the iPhone 6 thing.
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    Not just Apple but all Unix based systems including Linux, it seems.

    But maybe all is not lost, certainly my Linux OS did an update for BASH before the problem hit the news and apparently there's no indication that anyone has actually exploited the flaw, so don't panic.

    I certainly didn't have to wait till "Patch Tuesday" comes around like Windows users!
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    My O2 3G and my BT mail account have been playing up in the last 30 mins and thought it was to do with that bug.

    *awaits obv porn gag*
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    There is always conflicting opinions about weather or not Mac users should have Antivirus installed,any one have advice on this.
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    Huskaris said:

    Just as well Apple has the users it does or this could spell trouble for them, along with the iPhone 6 thing.

    I didn't realise people were defined by which computer they use! What if you have MS and Apple products? Is that an indicator of schizophrenia?
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    This is the kind of shit the NSA/CIA/etc have been using for years - zero day exploits that leave people wondering how the hell they got rinsed. Luckily I only have four systems at work that are vulnerable - unluckily, none of them are bog-standard Linux, they're all systems with modified kernels that run Bash but can't be patched manually. Instead I have to wait for vendors to scramble to issue patches... and hope that no-one's rinsed my network in the meantime. Happy days.
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    JiMMy 85 said:

    Huskaris said:

    Just as well Apple has the users it does or this could spell trouble for them, along with the iPhone 6 thing.

    I didn't realise people were defined by which computer they use! What if you have MS and Apple products? Is that an indicator of schizophrenia?
    People seem to buy Apple/MS products and support them (especially apple) like it's a football team. In fact more so, we would sell out the Valley week in week out if we named ourselves Charlton Appletic.
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    Fooks sake...

    "Bash (which we'll discuss more below) is installed on many computers running operating systems derived from an ancient operating system called Unix"

    If they think unix is ancient then I am a dinosaur! ;0)
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    This is the kind of shit the NSA/CIA/etc have been using for years - zero day exploits that leave people wondering how the hell they got rinsed. Luckily I only have four systems at work that are vulnerable - unluckily, none of them are bog-standard Linux, they're all systems with modified kernels that run Bash but can't be patched manually. Instead I have to wait for vendors to scramble to issue patches... and hope that no-one's rinsed my network in the meantime. Happy days.

    Can we have that in English and will my ZX81 be affected?
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    Got a further security update today for Linux.

    But what's going to happen with stuff like WiFi routers, etc which are likely to be vulnerable?
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    Fooks sake...

    "Bash (which we'll discuss more below) is installed on many computers running operating systems derived from an ancient operating system called Unix"

    If they think unix is ancient then I am a dinosaur! ;0)

    Hahaha! 'an ancient operating system' that runs nearly everything of any value in the world :)
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    Fooks sake...

    "Bash (which we'll discuss more below) is installed on many computers running operating systems derived from an ancient operating system called Unix"

    If they think unix is ancient then I am a dinosaur! ;0)

    Hahaha! 'an ancient operating system' that runs nearly everything of any value in the world :)
    Agreed Leroy. But I remember IBM System 36/38, Prime Primos and the king of all o/s, Digitals VMS (OpenVMS in newer money), just nail the lid shut and forget about me!

    Bore over.
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    cafcfan said:

    Got a further security update today for Linux.

    But what's going to happen with stuff like WiFi routers, etc which are likely to be vulnerable?

    Unclear as yet. Might be a lot of hyperbole about that, since I think most home wifi routers/APs run BusyBox or variants, which don't have Bash installed. Also, anything that runs a 'proper' Unix/Linux kernel may well be running Debian, which has Dash installed as the default shell instead.

    There will definitely be some out there that are vulnerable though - the main worry is that most people won't have a clue how to fix them, or even run a patch to do so. I can just see myself now, trying to explain to my mum how to drop into Bash on her router, elevate to root, download a patch, untar it then run it? Fun times ahead...
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    eh?
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    This is the kind of shit the NSA/CIA/etc have been using for years - zero day exploits that leave people wondering how the hell they got rinsed. Luckily I only have four systems at work that are vulnerable - unluckily, none of them are bog-standard Linux, they're all systems with modified kernels that run Bash but can't be patched manually. Instead I have to wait for vendors to scramble to issue patches... and hope that no-one's rinsed my network in the meantime. Happy days.

    Can we have that in English and will my ZX81 be affected?
    ZX81 should be alright, just don't play any of your Atari games online

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    Derek1952 said:

    There is always conflicting opinions about weather or not Mac users should have Antivirus installed,any one have advice on this.

    The weather's fine
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    Fooks sake...

    "Bash (which we'll discuss more below) is installed on many computers running operating systems derived from an ancient operating system called Unix"

    If they think unix is ancient then I am a dinosaur! ;0)

    Hahaha! 'an ancient operating system' that runs nearly everything of any value in the world :)
    Agreed Leroy. But I remember IBM System 36/38, Prime Primos and the king of all o/s, Digitals VMS (OpenVMS in newer money), just nail the lid shut and forget about me!

    Bore over.
    We are still on VMS (Renaissance CS/Gembase) moving to Dynamics AX.
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    Fooks sake...

    "Bash (which we'll discuss more below) is installed on many computers running operating systems derived from an ancient operating system called Unix"

    If they think unix is ancient then I am a dinosaur! ;0)

    Hahaha! 'an ancient operating system' that runs nearly everything of any value in the world :)
    Agreed Leroy. But I remember IBM System 36/38, Prime Primos and the king of all o/s, Digitals VMS (OpenVMS in newer money), just nail the lid shut and forget about me!

    Bore over.
    We are still on VMS (Renaissance CS/Gembase) moving to Dynamics AX.
    Way after my time SA. Just googled Renaissance CS/Gembase and see Cobol, VB and C++ mentioned, now your talking...

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    Bloody hell - COBOL! I looked at that in college. Turbo PASCAL is where it's at ;)
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    Does IS have anything to do with this?
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    Jayajosh said:

    Does IS have anything to do with this?

    Huh?
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    We are being advised not to use credit cards on line. In your view Leroy does that make sense?
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    Hard call to make. It's clear the vulnerability exists, is brutally simple to exploit (so script kiddies who know next to nothing about computers can use it to fuck with things), and - worst of all - it's 'wormable' (basically, one machine can infect another), which is always a worry. I'd be extremely cautious about buying anything online for a while - at least until the patches work fully. However, so much of peoples' lives are done online nowadays that this might be next to impossible for some.
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    Bloody hell - COBOL! I looked at that in college. Turbo PASCAL is where it's at ;)

    Prefer PICK myself.
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    Thanks Leroy.
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