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    I'm getting quite frustrated by the ridiculous amount of coverage West Ham's 'problems' are getting in the media. I understand that it's interesting, and pitch invasions resulting in players trying to insert their arms all the way into fans are always funny, but it's miles and miles away from them having actual issues. Their main problems appear to be that they moved away from their home to a bigger stadium without a fight because they believed that it would bring Champions League football. The owners then haven't invested enough in the squad and now their team looks boring and capable of being relegated again, or as it should really be described, is back to being a normal West Ham team. They've spent a lot of money, just not in the right areas and not on the right players. This isn't a story of 'a club at war with itself' or 'the heart being ripped out of a club', it's a story about the fans having buyer's remorse after they rode a wave perched on Dimitri Payet's back.

    Incidentally, there wasn't such a ridiculous load of wailing when Saints left The Dell for St Mary's, and they seem to have just moved on like normal people.

    Soton moved from an old (and tiny) ground to a new football ground which they own. West Ham moved from a perfectly modern football ground to being tenants at an athletics stadium. They're proper ground has been demolished, so they can't go back either
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    Frankly don't know what they are moaning about. The West Ham fans I know love the new stadium and the variety of food outlets and bars nearby. They have a low opinion of the owners, but they had that view before the club moved to Stratford, and reckon that team development has been going downhill for several years now (what's happened to the fabled football academy?) For all the loud noise coming out of West Ham, I am more perturbed by the 'right on' club in Bermondsey who are quietly moving into a place off berth in the Championship.
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    Frankly don't know what they are moaning about. The West Ham fans I know love the new stadium and the variety of food outlets and bars nearby. They have a low opinion of the owners, but they had that view before the club moved to Stratford, and reckon that team development has been going downhill for several years now (what's happened to the fabled football academy?) For all the loud noise coming out of West Ham, I am more perturbed by the 'right on' club in Bermondsey who are quietly moving into a place off berth in the Championship.

    People may mock Chelsea for the Academy kids they bring through but are West Ham any better - they've got Declan Rice playing quite often at the moment yet you surely have to go back to Mark Noble who's become a regular from there?
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    No sympathy for them and not sure why anyone else has either.

    I don’t remember many of them up in arms about the originally. As some have said, they just seem to protesting as they’re having a bad season
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    I'm getting quite frustrated by the ridiculous amount of coverage West Ham's 'problems' are getting in the media. I understand that it's interesting, and pitch invasions resulting in players trying to insert their arms all the way into fans are always funny, but it's miles and miles away from them having actual issues. Their main problems appear to be that they moved away from their home to a bigger stadium without a fight because they believed that it would bring Champions League football. The owners then haven't invested enough in the squad and now their team looks boring and capable of being relegated again, or as it should really be described, is back to being a normal West Ham team. They've spent a lot of money, just not in the right areas and not on the right players. This isn't a story of 'a club at war with itself' or 'the heart being ripped out of a club', it's a story about the fans having buyer's remorse after they rode a wave perched on Dimitri Payet's back.

    Incidentally, there wasn't such a ridiculous load of wailing when Saints left The Dell for St Mary's, and they seem to have just moved on like normal people.

    Soton moved from an old (and tiny) ground to a new football ground which they own. West Ham moved from a perfectly modern football ground to being tenants at an athletics stadium. They're proper ground has been demolished, so they can't go back either
    That’s one way of looking at it. On the other hand, West Ham moved from a fairly modern ground to a brand new one with better facilities and a larger capacity (in terms of actual increase, West Ham have increased their capacity by 4,679 seats more than Saints), all for the cost of a peppercorn rent on a 99 year lease, where the facilities are funded by the taxpayer. They then sold their old ground for £40m. That alone funds their ‘rent’ for the next 16 years. Saints spent £32m on their stadium and have to pay for silly little things like stewarding, pitch maintenance and corner flags. Incidentally, West Ham sold out 50,000 season tickets by May 2016, so it didn’t seem like the fans were too troubled by thoughts of a return there.
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    I am enjoying their grubby little directors finally getting the abuse they deserve.
    I hope they end up groundsharing with Leyton Orient and the London Stafium is bulldozed.
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    IdleHans said:

    I am enjoying their grubby little directors finally getting the abuse they deserve.
    I hope they end up groundsharing with Leyton Orient and the London Stafium is bulldozed.

    What a shame Orient weren't taken over by a very ambitious billionaire & had bought Upton park from the porn barons :smiley:
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    I'm getting quite frustrated by the ridiculous amount of coverage West Ham's 'problems' are getting in the media. I understand that it's interesting, and pitch invasions resulting in players trying to insert their arms all the way into fans are always funny, but it's miles and miles away from them having actual issues. Their main problems appear to be that they moved away from their home to a bigger stadium without a fight because they believed that it would bring Champions League football. The owners then haven't invested enough in the squad and now their team looks boring and capable of being relegated again, or as it should really be described, is back to being a normal West Ham team. They've spent a lot of money, just not in the right areas and not on the right players. This isn't a story of 'a club at war with itself' or 'the heart being ripped out of a club', it's a story about the fans having buyer's remorse after they rode a wave perched on Dimitri Payet's back.

    Incidentally, there wasn't such a ridiculous load of wailing when Saints left The Dell for St Mary's, and they seem to have just moved on like normal people.

    Soton moved from an old (and tiny) ground to a new football ground which they own. West Ham moved from a perfectly modern football ground to being tenants at an athletics stadium. They're proper ground has been demolished, so they can't go back either
    That’s one way of looking at it. On the other hand, West Ham moved from a fairly modern ground to a brand new one with better facilities and a larger capacity (in terms of actual increase, West Ham have increased their capacity by 4,679 seats more than Saints), all for the cost of a peppercorn rent on a 99 year lease, where the facilities are funded by the taxpayer. They then sold their old ground for £40m. That alone funds their ‘rent’ for the next 16 years. Saints spent £32m on their stadium and have to pay for silly little things like stewarding, pitch maintenance and corner flags. Incidentally, West Ham sold out 50,000 season tickets by May 2016, so it didn’t seem like the fans were too troubled by thoughts of a return there.
    While West Ham got a financial bargain, I wouldn't say they got better facilities than Upton Park though. I'll be fascinated to see what their attendance will be without PL football
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    If (when) they go down surely there won't be the need for the temporary seating?

    That will save us (taxpayers) some money. Or will they insist on it staying as the rest of the seating is a million miles from the pitch.
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    A friend of mine supports West Ham and it’s been mooted that the fans were going to try and set up their own testimonial game for him.

    I reckon West Ham will come to their senses eventually and do the testimonial - however if I was Collins l’d tell them to piss off. Disgraceful way to treat a player.
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    I recall Leon Osman and Tony Hibbert found out they were being released by Everton after it appeared on the club website.
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    I recall Leon Osman and Tony Hibbert found out they were being released by Everton after it appeared on the club website.

    Like when Poyet found out he was sacked whilst he was doing coverage on BBC and BBC got the statement from Brighton
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    I recall Leon Osman and Tony Hibbert found out they were being released by Everton after it appeared on the club website.

    Like when Poyet found out he was sacked whilst he was doing coverage on BBC and BBC got the statement from Sunderland
    Like how Comey and Tillerson found out they were fired by Trump. Seems it's a trend now...
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    Email, so old fashioned. They should have tweeted it.

    Tweeting it, so baggy, WhatsApp is the way.
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    14th richest club in the world. You would think they could pay for their own stewards!
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    I recall Leon Osman and Tony Hibbert found out they were being released by Everton after it appeared on the club website.

    Like when Poyet found out he was sacked whilst he was doing coverage on BBC and BBC got the statement from Brighton
    For those that forgot it

    https://youtu.be/BdF4oHzHr8A
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    Declan Rice

    Do we do everything we can to get him in our squad
    Or
    Do we say na let Ireland have him
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    Please please please they go down. Please. 
    Even if they nick Bowyer and Cullen?
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    Watching Sunday Supplement this week and Matt Law mentioned that they only have 1 scout, their training ground is made up of pitches and portacabins, and Moyes was only allowed to bring in one member of back room staff himself.

    Problems right at the bottom, as well as the fact that Sullivan and Gold try to do everything on the cheap when bringing in players. Matt Law also mentioned that their ownership of Birmingham City saw similar issues in terms of investment of the stadium etc.

    Their own doing and I hope they go down.

    However, I do have some (a tiny little bit) sympathy for their fans after all of the false promises and losing a proper football stadium.

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    edited January 2020
    If you've time to spare have a look at the KUMB forum. Really amused me. The fans seem to have woken up to the fact they are stuck in a soulless bowl. Big protests planned 😂😂😂
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