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In my Opinion, WE MUST ALL FIGHT THIS. I'm not a betting man, but I would have a good guess that 90% of people on CharltonLife have, or know someone who has, needed Lewisham A & E at some stage in their life.
Being away from the area these days all I am hearing is about hospital closures in my old neck of the woods! Can anyone tell me what is still open in a triangle roughly of Lewisham,Bromley and Dartford ish ?
“@SaveLewishamAE: Remember to sign the petition to save lewisham A&E and maternity services! http://bitly.com/QPVHlU ” Please save local A&E! Retweeted by SaveLewishamA&E
thoroughly agree MOG have done my bit ...was born there and have had to go to a and e a few times ..if it did close it would literally mean the difference between life and death to some people in the area
Being away from the area these days all I am hearing is about hospital closures in my old neck of the woods! Can anyone tell me what is still open in a triangle roughly of Lewisham,Bromley and Dartford ish ?
Pretty sure Bromley got knocked down and replaced with flats...
Being away from the area these days all I am hearing is about hospital closures in my old neck of the woods! Can anyone tell me what is still open in a triangle roughly of Lewisham,Bromley and Dartford ish ?
St Thomas's In Southwark Queen Elizabeth's in Woolwich Princess Royal University Hospital in Orpington Darenth Valley in Darford.
These are the only hospital with A&E departments serving the south east london area if they close Lewisham.
I'm actually going to miss the Huddersfield game so that i can attend the march against closure, it is the first time I have ever voluntarily missed a home game, thats how strong I feel about this
Being away from the area these days all I am hearing is about hospital closures in my old neck of the woods! Can anyone tell me what is still open in a triangle roughly of Lewisham,Bromley and Dartford ish ?
St Thomas's In Southwark Queen Elizabeth's in Woolwich Princess Royal University Hospital in Orpington Darenth Valley in Darford.
These are the only hospital with A&E departments serving the south east london area.
And there is apparently talk of closing Darenth Valley A&E too!
Im totally shocked at how many have gone and they still want to close more! There must be some horrendous waiting times if youve been injured!!
That's assuming you can even get to the A&E in the first place. With fewer and fewer facilities available the distance to your nearest A&E will usually be increasing by a significant amount. Getting there, either under your own power or in an ambulance, when time is a critical factor becomes increasingly difficult. I was living in Sidcup when they closed Queen Mary's A&E and that left the nearest A&E as Queen Elizabeth. With the best will in the world, if you have had a heart attack, stroke, serious injury etc, and are unlucky enough to suffer this in rush hour, the chances are you're going to be dead or have suffered from not having your condition treated promptly, long before an ambulance even gets to you, let alone gets back to the hospital.
If more & more businesses fold , then more and more services will be cut , i don't think we've hit the bottom yet with the economy , without taking into account mismanagement of the NHS.
Cash For Killing is all the rage in the NHS now. I've seen it twice with members of my family so I'm pleased to see it officially ackknowledged as the usual suspects probably wouldn't believe me.
Cash For Killing is all the rage in the NHS now. I've seen it twice with members of my family so I'm pleased to see it officially ackknowledged as the usual suspects probably wouldn't believe me.
Meanwhile the staffing situation is a joke. I know that due to midwifes being understaffed and overworked (consecutive 12 hour night shifts without any breaks are standard) babies have been lost due to malpractice there due to physical and mental fatigue.
As you know, not good at words, but, can't understand how jeremy hunt has something to do with with the "LewishamA&E" closure, whilst fighting for his local hospital (Kingston ? West London ?) to stay open. Surely our "Elected People" would not con the country ? Would they ?
I understand the importance of bailing out a country we have strong ties with, likewise banks and that the NHS was very top heavy etc etc, but how can they not find the money to keep an A&E ward open when there are so few ones nearby?
This is a very visable example of the effect of this governments austerity measures. In no way am I trying to belittle what is happening to your local A&E, just the opposite in fact, but this sort of thing is going on all over the country in all sorts of public services. It's just that the general public may not know about it until they need those services and, sadly, I suspect in many cases not even care about it happening until it effects them or theirs. Well played for getting involved and raising awareness of this Moggie and you certainly have my support.
In the meantime we can find £75m(?) to run an election that no one wanted except the Tories and the Lib Dem MP's went along with...you really couldn't make it up could you?
If Lewisham goes there will be one A&E to cover the boroughs of Lewisham Greenwich and Bexley. That's over three quarters of a million people. And it's just been refurbished to the tune of at least £12M. My daughter raised about going on the demo - we may miss the Hudds game as well.
Forgot to say, Queen Elizabeth currently takes from Greenwich and Bexley and is often full up, meaning ambulances are diverted to Darenth Valley or Lewisham (!). More info here http://www.savelewishamhospital.com/
Forgot to say, Queen Elizabeth currently takes from Greenwich and Bexley and is often full up, meaning ambulances are diverted to Darenth Valley or Lewisham (!). More info here http://www.savelewishamhospital.com/
I can assure you that both Darenth Valley and the PRU are closed more than the QE. In fact, it's very common for Ambulances to be asked to avoid DVH without them officially being put on an official divert.
I've coined a slogan, which may be used - you heard it hear first. "Don't get sick in Sidcup". Here in Bexley we're obviously concerned about Lewisham A&E, but we're also worried about what's happening/happened to Queen Mary's Sidcup. We apparently have the support of our MP, against his own party, so we'll see how far he wants to push it. We also have the support of a prominent local Tory councillor, so interesting times!
We do feel that the whole closing Lewisham A&E could be a smokescreen to deflect attention away from what is happening elsewhere.
It's complicated, but the reason why Queen Mary's can be shafted has a lot to do with the PFI fiasco - ironically because it is NOT involved, whereas the other hospitals in the healthcare trust are and the PFI has tied them in for 20 years-worth of costs.
Natalie Beaumont @MissNattersB My daughter wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the wonderful NICU staff at Lewisham, 4 months of her life she was there @SaveLewishamAE
I have signed it. Got sewn back up in there after a very traumatic and lively Saturday night in Catford in 1980. 40 stitches in the back of the head and the top of my right ear sewn back together. Taught me a very valuable lesson that night, that there is always someone bigger and harder than yourself. Lewisham A&E in those days was like something out of the Crimea, absolute carnage but as is our wonderful NHS, they patched everyone up with no fuss and sent us on our way.
Lucy Mangan: the NHS, a cautionary tale http://gu.com/p/3bn6h/tw via @guardian. Great article on the threat to Lewisham Hospital. Retweeted by SaveLewishamA&E
This would be a disaster. It may not be the most modern hospital, and it may be very busy but I have been there after a serious incident and they were excellent. Lewisham hospital covers such a large area for the emergency services, where are the ambulances meant to go? The PRU is miles away, QMH has closed its A and E, QEH is far and KCH is even further. This can only be bad news for emergencies. Very worrying in my opinion.
I have tried the official consultation feedback thingy and failed to navigate it, and then it just went away from the screen, they make it difficult for nitwits like me to do more than sign the online petition. The thought of Lewisham A&E closing is shocking, whatever anybody thinks about public services, state involvement, costs and so on, you can take some comfort that at least there is that fundamental medical service provided in communities. If Lewisham A&E ends up closing I will hate those bastard politicians who made it happen forever.
Needed to go to an A&E after work on Wednesday. Choice of QEH (10 minutes from home) or a hospital in London. QEH is always full. Went to University College at Euston. Marvellous facilities and staff but it still more than 4 hours to get a shard of glass cut out of my foot.
X rays needed so a visit to surgery or minor injuries unit not possible.
With one A&E for SE London they will need to enlarge QEH - not going to happen.
What happens if there is a train crash or a multiple pile up on the A102?
Consultation on Greenwich area includes a meeting at The Valley.
Those on the campaign front need to up their game, Nick Ferrari (host of LBCs breakfast show and Blackheath resident) said this morning he had not heard a thing about it.
He should have been one of the first people to go to to drum up a bit of pressure and publicity.
Fantastic news! Hundreds of people in Lewisham have signed the petition to local doctors who’ll soon have the power to make big decisions about the local NHS - asking them to protect local NHS services from privatisation.
Right now, the doctors are forming a Clinical Commissioning Group for Lewisham and they’ll be under a lot of pressure from private companies to let them take over vital services.
Whether it’s treatment for diabetes, skin conditions, a broken arm or depression, profit-hungry companies like Virgin Care and Serco are circling, ready to bid for contracts by promising to slash costs. [1]
But lots of us don’t want that to happen. Together, we’ve built up a big petition signed by local people across Lewisham. The vital next step is to arrange to meet face-to-face with doctors on your CCG to show them how many local people want them to protect the NHS, instead of helping carve it up for private profit.
Not only can we give the doctors a copy of the big petition, we can also hand them a precise guide explaining how they can take action to protect the NHS in Lewisham. The guide contains amendments drafted by expert lawyers that CCGs can put into their constitutions.
If Lewisham CCG agrees to put the 38 Degrees amendments into their constitution, it will be much less likely that cost-cutting, profit-hungry companies will win contracts to run services in Lewisham. In London, Hackney CCG have already agreed to use the 38 Degrees amendments - your local NHS could be protected too! But it needs someone to step up to organise to deliver the petition and the guide with the amendments.
38 Degrees members who’ve done it before say it doesn’t take long to set up. Once you’ve made an appointment with your CCG, just fill in the details on the website. Then the 38 Degrees office team will send out everything you need to make it happen and let local 38 Degrees members know about it too.
PS: Here’s a step-by-step guide to how you can organise a petition hand-in to your CCG:
1. Sign up to organise a hand-in by filling in the quick form at: https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/CCG-petition-hand-in 2. We'll then help you find your CCG's contact details so you can ask to have a meeting with them 3. Once you've set up a meeting, find a place nearby where 38 Degrees members can meet up half an hour or so beforehand 4. Then, input all the details of your meet-up on the 38 Degrees events page 5. We'll then let other 38 Degrees members in your area know it's happening so they can sign up to come along too, and send you a petition hand-in pack before the event. 6. Along with a copy of the petition, we'll give you booklets to give the CCG, with the critical amendments that we want them to adopt to protect local NHS services. There's more detail about the amendments and the campaign on the 38 Degrees website. 7. Let us know how you got on by emailing: ccgsupport@38degrees.org.uk
Sorry I won't be at the Valley today. Since I took a season ticket I have attended the Valley with a bad back, mild pneumonia and flown back from India landed at 8.00 am and got toi the Valley to see Chelsea stuff us 5-0, but today I am voluntarily giving up my season ticket to my brother in law so I can join the march to save Lewisham A&E and other services including maternity services from going to failing authority's hospital in Woolwich. At 2.00 pm we march from Lewisham and at 3.00 pm we form a chain around the hospital.
Kap I feel like I would join you, but will be working for the infant Charlton trust in the surrounds of the Valley. I want to thank you, and all the others on the action this afternoon. Let's fight this one all the way.
Nathan you have just opened yourself up to a torrent of abuse. Wait until those who have given up their day to march in the pouring rain instead of sitting in the pub before going to watch their team, get home. I have refrand from commenting on the other thread. But you are a prized sized prick. .
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Queen Elizabeth's in Woolwich
Princess Royal University Hospital in Orpington
Darenth Valley in Darford.
These are the only hospital with A&E departments serving the south east london area if they close Lewisham.
Cash For Killing is all the rage in the NHS now. I've seen it twice with members of my family so I'm pleased to see it officially ackknowledged as the usual suspects probably wouldn't believe me.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9644287/NHS-millions-for-controversial-care-pathway.html#
EDIT: the article says "terminally ill" anyone will be "terminally ill" if starved and dehydrated to death.
It's euthanasia by the back door to relieve pressure on beds in my opinion.
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2012/11/09/jeremy-hunt-orders-an-inquiry-into-the-liverpool-care-pathway-and-says-patients-and-relatives-must-be-consulted-but-will-the-doctors-pay-any-attention/
5 million newcomers
birth rate explosion
economic melt down
the perfect storm
In the meantime we can find £75m(?) to run an election that no one wanted except the Tories and the Lib Dem MP's went along with...you really couldn't make it up could you?
My daughter raised about going on the demo - we may miss the Hudds game as well.
More info here http://www.savelewishamhospital.com/
We do feel that the whole closing Lewisham A&E could be a smokescreen to deflect attention away from what is happening elsewhere.
It's complicated, but the reason why Queen Mary's can be shafted has a lot to do with the PFI fiasco - ironically because it is NOT involved, whereas the other hospitals in the healthcare trust are and the PFI has tied them in for 20 years-worth of costs.
My daughter wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the wonderful NICU staff at Lewisham, 4 months of her life she was there @SaveLewishamAE
Retweeted by SaveLewishamA&E
The thought of Lewisham A&E closing is shocking, whatever anybody thinks about public services, state involvement, costs and so on, you can take some comfort that at least there is that fundamental medical service provided in communities.
If Lewisham A&E ends up closing I will hate those bastard politicians who made it happen forever.
X rays needed so a visit to surgery or minor injuries unit not possible.
With one A&E for SE London they will need to enlarge QEH - not going to happen.
What happens if there is a train crash or a multiple pile up on the A102?
Consultation on Greenwich area includes a meeting at The Valley.
https://www.facebook.com/SaveLewishamAe
March this Saturday.
He should have been one of the first people to go to to drum up a bit of pressure and publicity.
Front page in The Mercury, SLP, Newshopper, been on local ITV & BBC news, talked about at length on BBCRadioLondon...........
Think Ferrari may be on a "wind-up".
Fantastic news! Hundreds of people in Lewisham have signed the petition to local doctors who’ll soon have the power to make big decisions about the local NHS - asking them to protect local NHS services from privatisation.
Right now, the doctors are forming a Clinical Commissioning Group for Lewisham and they’ll be under a lot of pressure from private companies to let them take over vital services.
Whether it’s treatment for diabetes, skin conditions, a broken arm or depression, profit-hungry companies like Virgin Care and Serco are circling, ready to bid for contracts by promising to slash costs. [1]
But lots of us don’t want that to happen. Together, we’ve built up a big petition signed by local people across Lewisham. The vital next step is to arrange to meet face-to-face with doctors on your CCG to show them how many local people want them to protect the NHS, instead of helping carve it up for private profit.
Could you arrange to hand in the petition to your Lewisham CCG?
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/CCG-petition-hand-in
Not only can we give the doctors a copy of the big petition, we can also hand them a precise guide explaining how they can take action to protect the NHS in Lewisham. The guide contains amendments drafted by expert lawyers that CCGs can put into their constitutions.
If Lewisham CCG agrees to put the 38 Degrees amendments into their constitution, it will be much less likely that cost-cutting, profit-hungry companies will win contracts to run services in Lewisham. In London, Hackney CCG have already agreed to use the 38 Degrees amendments - your local NHS could be protected too! But it needs someone to step up to organise to deliver the petition and the guide with the amendments.
38 Degrees members who’ve done it before say it doesn’t take long to set up. Once you’ve made an appointment with your CCG, just fill in the details on the website. Then the 38 Degrees office team will send out everything you need to make it happen and let local 38 Degrees members know about it too.
Can you make it happen in Lewisham?
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/CCG-petition-hand-in
Thanks for everything you do,
Marie, Ian, David and the 38 Degrees team
PS: Here’s a step-by-step guide to how you can organise a petition hand-in to your CCG:
1. Sign up to organise a hand-in by filling in the quick form at: https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/CCG-petition-hand-in
2. We'll then help you find your CCG's contact details so you can ask to have a meeting with them
3. Once you've set up a meeting, find a place nearby where 38 Degrees members can meet up half an hour or so beforehand
4. Then, input all the details of your meet-up on the 38 Degrees events page
5. We'll then let other 38 Degrees members in your area know it's happening so they can sign up to come along too, and send you a petition hand-in pack before the event.
6. Along with a copy of the petition, we'll give you booklets to give the CCG, with the critical amendments that we want them to adopt to protect local NHS services. There's more detail about the amendments and the campaign on the 38 Degrees website.
7. Let us know how you got on by emailing: ccgsupport@38degrees.org.uk
NOTES:
[1] “...plans for a radical restructuring of the health service in England, which will give GPs control of much of the NHS's £106bn annual budget, cut the number of health bodies, and introduce more competition into services” Guardian NHS Reform Health bill passes vote http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/mar/20/nhs-reform-health-bill-passes-vote
BBC: NHS - The shape of things to come http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17457102
[2] 38 Degrees blog “Save Your Local NHS - it’s working” http://blog.38degrees.org.uk/2012/11/06/save-your-local-nhs-its-working/
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Let's fight this one all the way.
Or adopt the Queen Mary's approach and open it 8am-8pm
It a terrible thing to happen to any community
Nathan
Grow up FFs