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Ivanovic appeal not frivolous???

The most obvious opportunity to ban someone for an extra game and they turn a blind eye?

How did they think they had any chance at all of him getting away with his punch in the back of Maloney beats me.

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  • I was literally just about to post the exact same thing. How on Earth that wasn't deemed 'frivolous' is beyond me. It's inconsistency like this that makes my blood boil.
  • did they really appeal that, i had the sound down and saw the sly dig from ivanovic , was he sent off for that

    if that is not frivolous then what is !
  • If ever there was a slug in the guts that was it.
  • Has the frivilous ruling ever been applied before or since our Sankofa appeal?
  • I was shocked they even appealed but any other team outside the top 4 and this would be an extra games ban
  • I had to rewind it on SSN because I couldn't actually believe they had appealed it. On what basis?
  • I meant any other team than the 'big' 4 if chelski are still in that category
  • More ludicrous is the rejection of the Derry appeal. He had his arms outstretched, Young brushed his hand and went down like a sack of spuds. Never a foul let alone denying a goalscoring opportunity. The incident is a smokescreen for the other issue of the official's mistake for not flagging for offside.
  • Rio Ferdinand got an extra game ban a year or two back
  • edited April 2012
    More ludicrous is the rejection of the Derry appeal. He had his arms outstretched, Young brushed his hand and went down like a sack of spuds. Never a foul let alone denying a goalscoring opportunity. The incident is a smokescreen for the other issue of the official's mistake for not flagging for offside.
    Completely agree. Mistake on the pitch by the ref, ok that's forgivable.

    But how on earth has that appeal not been upheld? And why has there not been a bigger deal made out of it?

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  • Didn't we frivolously appeal against a Paul Benson suspension last season?
  • I was sad enough to look up the exact wording in the FA Handbook on this....

    From Field Offences & Fast Track
    Section A
    5. Claims of Wrongful Dismissal
    (h) III. If the Commission’s decision is to reject the claim, it will, in every case, go on to consider whether or not the player’s punishment should be increased.
    If the Commission considers that the rejected claim had no prospect of success and / or amounts to an abuse of process, the Commission shall have the discretion to increase the penalty up to twice the standard punishment set out in this Memorandum.


    Frivolous is mentioned in the Standard Rules of the Association but not in the specific rule for wrongful dismissal.

    Interesting to see that the punishment can be quite high and not just 1 game and in League 1 it costs £500 to instigate the appeal.
  • ... it costs £500 to instigate the appeal.
    There's an immediate source of inequality £500 to Chelsea is nothing, to us it might be quite substantial, to a struggling club it could make all appeals out of the question. I understand the need for a fee, but shouldn't it be proportionate to turnover?
  • also the fact that it was an appeal on a ban handed out on video evidence rather than one based on a live decision made by the ref surely means it's frivolous to begin with????
  • also the fact that it was an appeal on a ban handed out on video evidence rather than one based on a live decision made by the ref surely means it's frivolous to begin with????
    This is the bit I don't get either. The ban was given RETROSPECTIVELY so it's not a question of referee error but was judged by the FA panel. It was deemed violent conduct, which it clearly was, so received the standard 3 game ban.
    As you say Dave, ANY appeal from that point on would surely fit in the `frivolous' catagory cos the panel had already done their judging and sentence had been passed. The panel would simply NEVER turn over their own ruling and would surely see any challenge to this as taking the pi$$.

    When you put this alongside the Derry incident this last week you really wonder wtf is going on cos something definately is and its getting ridiculous now.
  • Of course there was the infamous Shearer sending off which was overturned as soon as the Monday morning as "the video evidence was inconclusive" If they couldn't see the incident properly they should have stood by the ref's decision. And apparently Charlton's pitchside footage had him bang to rights but the FA didn't ask for it. This mob should be sacked forthwith, they make a mockery of the game.
  • ... it costs £500 to instigate the appeal.
    There's an immediate source of inequality £500 to Chelsea is nothing, to us it might be quite substantial, to a struggling club it could make all appeals out of the question. I understand the need for a fee, but shouldn't it be proportionate to turnover?
    I thought the £500 was returned if the appeal was upheld. Isn't it a pre-event fine for a failed appeal? Makes lower-level clubs think seriously about making an appeal that is unlikely to be passed. The extra ban was bought in to prevent frivolous appeals where £500 is pocket change for the club.
  • It is £500 for League 1

    Premier League is £1,500
    Championship is £750
    League 2 is £350

    Fee is returned if the appeal is successful.
  • oh come on now.. you know it wasn't Shearer's fault. It was fortunes fault for having the audacity of having his in Sheares's elbow's way. Accidental of course :-) Which was why it was dismissed by 9.05 Monday morning
  • Liverpool appealing Doni sending off was crazy too but did not get an extra ban which he should have IMO.
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