I can't say I've ever been aware of one, but I was wondering if there was any sort of small "Ultra" group associated with Charlton fans? It seems to be a growing trend in the UK, the "Holmesdale Fanatics" at Palace spring to mind. Will probably get shot down for this but I think it's pretty cool especially as it seems totally removed from hooliganism, firms, violence etc and seems more anti-commercialization of football which is something I'm sure most of us would support. The covered end are vocal and loud for sure, but I think more colour through flags, banners etc can only be a good thing as far as atmosphere goes no matter how naff you think it is....
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Not my thing but then I'm not really in the right age group. There are the big flags to get you started.
Go for it but you'll have to start it and you'll have to be prepared for some negative responses from some.
Good luck.
Room 101 with this idea.
I bid you good day.
EDIT. Having read your previous posts perhaps you arent a WUM and so to answer your question again more politely, no I can't think of anything worse than manufactured atmosphere and the whole phoney English scene. Works abroad as its authentic but we may as well all go the whole hog and dress up as Benny and Bjorn and and join in with the Opera singer on the pitch if we go down that route.
Im oot.
i was asking if there were people at charlton ever doing a similar thing, and what people thought about the whole trend right now. i guess people think it's lame.
Palarse doing it = embarrassing, pathetic & lame
He is more Ultra than all the Palace saps put together!!!
RockTop Flite allegedly.Napoli wouldn't have been a stroll in the park last night for Chelsea fans.
The English versions are indeed not hooliganism linked and are generally soppy teenagers & geeky adults.
As for the anti-commercialisation, I think even the Holmesdale lot sell merchandise etc and hardly have a focus like that; just try & support their team. It certainly makes for a better atmosphere than before, but I can't help but laugh at them. Reminds me of another group of fans who all turned up to an away games years ago with something called Opertaion Yellow or whatever, to get the entire away end to wear the away team shirt/or clothing of the same colour. Now that's sad.
I just can't see how we can compete long term at this level with our fanbase - you can only get lucky with good managers / shrewed signings for a short time.
how about wearing surgical masks?
However, anyone doing it in this country is a try hard sad act who watched Danny Dyer's Real International Football Factory too many times. You can't just call yourself an "ultra" overnight, it's pathetic.
I do find the whole culture abroad quite interesting as well though. I know that across the continent and in Africa ultras stray into violence and politics. I just meant that from what I can gather, that's not the UK "ultras" reason for being. And let me just say it one last time; I was never suggesting a similar thing at Charlton!
Regarding the violence, it is only a minority. When Italian games came to a halt after Gabriel Sandri was killed by police, around 1'000 Ultras took to the streets or smashed up their own stadiums to get games abandoned. Italy has roughly 100'000 Ultras, so that's 1%.
You've also got to take into account a city's demographic. For example, Napoli is traditionally the most dangerous place to go as an Italian away fan, but they have a huge number who live in poverty. The same goes for say, Boca in Argentina where their fans are traditionally from the poorest areas of Buenos Aires.