I ask this, after reading another thread, which brought it up.
I also ask, as someone I know is convinced that they were and is often telling me, that at least one of the pilots are still alive, that the buildings were blown up by explosives the USA planted themselves etc.
This person also believes that the UK were responsible for 7/7.
They tell me I should look on youtube and I'm ignorant of the true facts.
I have seen some stuff, where you have apparent eye witness accounts, substantiating this, but overall I don't want to spend hours and hours looking into this stuff. What does everyone think ?
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BBC did an programme about a guy giving himself a Muslim name and flogging this tripe in the Muslim community here (most of whom laughed it off)
turned out he was a white, non-muslim, hippy living somewhere in rural Ireland. Total nut job.
Try and find an economist who will tell you it was a government plot and then their is an argument, but you won't and you never will.
The one thing that might possibly be true amidst all the conspiracy theory toss is that the US military might have shot down the plane that was seemingly headed for the Whitehouse. I'll grant you that is a possibility. But the rest of it is crap spread by idiots who believe what they read on the internet.
And I think 80% is a bit pessimistic JR. More like 99.9%.
Is that the united 93 plane which got made into a film
And Leroy to say that anyone who believes in the conspiracys is an idiot and the very next sentence say one might be true is a bit odd.
What are these other 'coincidences'?
And the fourth plane being possibly shot down doesn't mean I believe that it was - just that it is possible that it was.
Snopes
But how do you convince someone that does & has in the past e mailed you plenty of "proof".
I really don't want to spend hours trying to research anti- conspiracy material or whatever you may want to call it ?
The truth is that the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated by a consortium consisting of various international crackpots including Hitler, Pol Pot, Michael Jackson and David Icke. FACT.
Icke was largely working alone when it come to the 7/7 attacks, although he did receive clandestine assistance from the Duke of Edinburgh. FACT.
(Well, you started it!)
They put it to one of the conspiracy theorists that possibly someone would have noticed this type of thing going on and he replied that they did it after work when everybody had gone home. I wasn't convinced....
But how do you convince someone that does & has in the past e mailed you plenty of "proof".[quote]
I suggest you don't bother. If people are so deluded they want to beleive this is a conspiracy they are clearly completely nuts.
Is that the same consortium that Slater outbid?
Yep read that many times, along with many other articles. You've also got impartial experts on crashes saying other things, if indeed there are impartial experts on either side and that goes for everything not just the pentagon site.
Why haven't the US Government released the CCTV they say they have of the crash? that would debunk it in one go. Whilst they refuse it allows the questions.
There are hundreds of CCTV cameras outside the Pentagon. Why is the only footage released a poor image of a flash of line. Where are the others that the Government have "Classified" and refused to release? Surely realising them would answer the theory?
Why did a news station anounce the collapse of one of the buildings a long tine before it did collapse?
How come all the airforce protection didn't work that day. The US government said that the aviation authority didn't tell them there were hijacked planes and that the twin towers had been hit until it was to late, yet the Aviation authority deny this and NORAD generals at the time said publicly they were told in time but then later said they weren't...Who's telling the truth?
I know major things like this are never perfect when looked at in minute detail later. The evidence can be looked at in many different ways and it comes down to who and what you want to believe a lot of the time. But there are questions unanswered that allow the conspiracy theories to carry on.
I'm not saying I believe any or all of the theories, I haven't really made up my mind. My point is I accept I don't and probably never will know for certain so i find it hypocritical to say you're open to a theory but say that all others are idiots for doing the same when it's a theory you're not open too.
What? It "really happened" alright. Just ask the families of the people who died?
Or do you think they got Spielberg in to direct the special effects?
It's bollocks
No one can tell you the truth, unless you believe without question what the governments or the theorists tell you. Both have plus and minus points. You need to research yourself from as many sources as possible and come to your own opinion.
"Why did a news station anounce the collapse of one of the buildings a long tine before it did collapse?"
could you explain please.
Means nothing. Fcuk me, news stations get things wrong all the time. If you watched any news bulletin today I guarantee you would be able to pull it apart this time next week for the "facts" that they got wrong with the benefit of hindsight. Except none of us will bother because todays news bulletins wont be gone over ad nauseum by the world and his nutty brother trying to "prove" some old tosh to fulfill their own agenda.
For example. Just after the Japanese earthquake hit the BBC were interviewing someone in Japan who was saying that there didn't appear to be much damage and thankfully it didn't all seem as bad as the New Zealand earthquake. That statement looks a bit silly now, doesn't it? But if I really wanted to I could come up with a theory that the Japanese government took the opportunity to use the earthquake as a cover for their wiping out a few thousand people for god knows what reason. It must be true because not 30 minutes after the quake struck someone was on my telly telling me it "wasn't bad". They MUST be right and everyone else is lying.
BBC World News (had to google it as couldn't remember who off hand) reported live on air that "Building 7" had collapsed about 20 minutes before it actually did.
Sorry I will re-word that anyone who believes 3 people can fly a jumbo jet sucessfully (on 3 seperate runs) into a pinpoint target after a couple of leasons in a Cessna is a fucking idiot!
Sorry Off it, I worded that badly. I meant provided evidence that it was carried out by terrorists and not by the USA.