Strangers have rolled into SE7 and already caused a storm in light of today’s events. Whilst on a humane level I feel great sympathy for Phil Parkinson I see this as the definitive line under an often stale and remarkably unhappy era at the club.
We have tried doing things the “Charlton” way building up slowly from scratch, hoping to develop upon new found stability with a prudish approach that has seen us right in the past. After the knee- jerk hirings and firings post- Curbishley, our descent down the leagues and the associated financial pressures inherent with this the ship needed to be steadied and the floundering stopped.
Arguably no one more than Richard Murray and Phil Parkinson have wanted it to work this way, striving to do the best with the resources available and all credit to them. Dignity and integrity are two qualities very rare in today’s game and they have both displayed them in abundance.
And fair play to the section of our ever loyal support who have kept good faith in the management of the club on and off the field through what have been difficult times in our painful adjustment from Premiership contenders to 3rd Division promotion hopefuls. And fair play to those of us who have alternatively questioned that faith with equally well- meaning passion and conviction.
Aside from the emotive debates that this strategy has invoked particularly in the past couple of seasons I feel more optimistic today about the future of this club than I have done since just before Scott Parker left and we were seriously challenging for European football.
Whether it be positive thinking, blind optimism or just sheer hope, my gut instinct tonight is that the events since New Year are the start of a new fruitful path for Charlton. The takeover shrouded in secrecy has seen two characters emerge whom have signalled an intention to make big changes.
Whilst the unknown is always daunting and no one other than those individuals involved truly know their intentions it is a least a change in direction (and oft directionless) way the club has found its running in recent years.
Eternal gratitude will always be due to Charlton people like Murray who have invested the time and money that most of us can only dream of. Obviously an astute businessman in his own right but perhaps it was his passion and love for the club that may have often clouded his better judgement in recent times.
Murray’s continued involvement and Varney’s return provide me with the security of familiarity and the trust that nothing bad will happen on their watch and I find their presence at board level invaluably comforting at such a transitional time.
I believe that much to the dismay of many of us true football fans that the game has sadly changed beyond recognition of the purer more innocent form it took when most of us fell in love with it many years ago. It’s a business nowdays where the bottom line seems almost to supersede the scoreline in terms of importance.
Murray et al are possibly (and thankfully) from a different age where honour, dedication and a firm handshake were enough to stay afloat as a successful football club and a going concern.
Nowdays it appears to be an industry controlled by sharp- suited slick operators with one eye one the pitch and the other on the next deal. From the little I know of our new owners (and the faceless money men behind them) I see them more cut out for this new world of modern football business.
I recall that I was initially strongly against the Zabeelification of “our” club i after enjoying the success of doing things the Charlton way for so many years. I didn’t want anything to do with the Chelski model of doing things. I suppose I hoped with naivety that one day football would implode and return to the more level playing field of my youth and teams in the lower divisions could cut the mustard. Whilst football has imploded it has mainly impacted the smaller clubs and barely a week has gone past recently without news of a long established club facing possible extinction. It hasn’t really touched the big boys and nothing will change until it does.
Regretfully it is with resignation to the “Can’t beat them join them” philosophy that I find myself feeling as I watch affairs unfolding at the club I have always loved and will always love.
None of us know with any real conviction what else will emerge from the shadows in the coming weeks, months and years regarding the club we all hold so dear but I feel a weird sense of relief tonight....as if today is a weight of our shoulders with the responsibility of guiding the club in the hands of the unknown people who aren’t Charlton and whose immediate actions show they have their own plans of what is best for them (and hopefully us).
Whilst the ruthlessness shown is somewhat alarming it is also refreshing after the stagnant situation we have found ourselves in the past few years. Whilst the stability may have been comforting that same familiarity appeared to also be breeding contempt and the increasing negativity and discord between fans, players and management echoed this.
It appears that we are going to be dragged kicking and screaming into the age of 21st Century football whether we like it or not and perhaps that is the only way to survive and be viable in the modern game.
We are a small club with a small but very loyal and dedicated following who have endured a lot of bad times and may well see more and we really deserve to see good times as do many clubs and supporters of our statue and for some unbeknownst reason I truly believe that this past week has sown the seeds for a return to good times at The Valley.
It is time to get that unity back throughout the whole club. It has been missing for a while but it is one of the things tat makes us a such a special and unique club.
Time for us to forget the past and look to the future which from my point of view appears a lot brighter now than it has for a long time.
COYA
RodneyCharltonTrotta
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There is no doubt that without a takeover we'd be in administration (maybe even before the season was out) so whether we like it are not we are in the modern footballing business world. How we fair is one for the future - I'm still tentative.
Anyway, many thanks for such a balanced overview, a really good read and thoughtful attempt to make sense of the situation we now find ourselves in.
Like you, I can only hope it sows the seeds of good times to soon come back to The Valley.
Great article, mate.
No we're not. Agree with almost everything else though, Rodders!
For me, that's the key line a generally excellent article, Rodders.
I, too, am more optimistic than in years and I really wish everyone would stop moaning about a sacking that was as justified as it was inevitable. I feel like we're finally starting to emerge from a long dark tunnel . So let's applaud the club's new found ambition and look forward in unity to the return of better times at the Valley, after the worst 3-4 year period I can remember since I saw my first Charlton game 45 seasons ago.
Unfortunately I feel the total opposite. I feel as far detached from Charlton as I have ever been today. Think this whole situation has been handled terribly.
Misguided optimism when I knew Varney was on the board.
The new regime has been in place 5 days and have lied to the fans several times already (see WSS thread). Does anyone really believe the Swindon game was the dealbreaker?
A month ago he was manager of the month - we then had 3 games in 5 days and then hardly a game for a fortnight. A point away at the best side in the division, a point away against a promotion rival and a lino flag away from a win.
Yes we have been poor at home in the last month but then again Southampton, Sheff Wed and Huddersfield have all lost at home lately.
We have no devine right to walk this league and 3 points from the automatics with a game in hand on Huddersfield suited me fine.
We're all in it together, let the good times roll!
The number of brilliant performances earlier in the season to counteract that fact are very few. Whilst we have no right to walk away with the division I would like to think we are set up to 'punch our weight' at this level.
Enjoyed the article and I think what the events of today prove is how little influence us fans have or will have in the future.
We live in interesting times (Chinese curse!).
If Benson had stuck in that header at BH&A to make it 2-1 or if his header had not been wrongly disallowed at Colchester and we had won there 4-3 then would he still be worthy of the sack?
Still, I am sure that Little Dennis will have us trampling over all-comers by February - all by playing beautiful football and not a long ball in sight, of course.
I don't feel optimistic at all.
Two days ago I did. I may still again. Everything depends on who they bring in to replace Parkinson.
I have nothing against ruthlessness. I'm a headhunter, I see ruthless business decisions all the time. Sometimes they are very good, and I end up admiring people with a a lot more balls than I have.
But take it from me, any plank can fire somebody. Hiring somebody better is a whole lot more difficult. Its so difficult, that it keeps me in business.
And, thank heavens, our new owners recognised this, too.
Well done to Slater and Jiminez. They did what they had to do.Now let's move on. There's is no devine (sic) right, or even divine right. But things can only get better after the incompetence and lack of ambition we've endured in recent seasons - and I am confident that they will.
It's quite bizarre how all these posters who used to complain about the ''negativity'' of CL are now pouring out the negativity like never before. Cheer up everyone and let's unite in celebrating the dawning of a brave new era in Charlton history.
And, thank heavens, our new owners recognised this, too.
Well done to Slater and Jiminez. They did what they had to do.Now let's move on. There's is no devine (sic) right, or even divine right. But things can only get better after the incompetence and lack of ambition we've endured in recent seasons - and I am confident that they will.
It's quite bizarre how all these posters who used to complain about the ''negativity'' of CL are now pouring out the negativity like never before. Cheer up everyone and let's unite in celebrating the dawning of a brave new era in Charlton history.[/quote]
....brave new era? Sacking a well respected manager one week into their reign and appointing Dennis Wise? Yes, plenty to celebrate there, I am sure.
I dont particularly want him involved personally either but if it meant he were a vehicle of getting someone else along in the bargain Id probably be happy enough.
As for Wise - what do you know that the rest of us don't?
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Sorry mate, as a student, (and one whose drinking habits this evening caused the awful spelling) I can assure you that I'm as annoyed at that as anyone. Feel content that you did make me laugh...
Time will tell over the next few months I suppose.
As for Wise - what do you know that the rest of us don't?[/quote]
1] The bookies are no longer accepting bets on Wise.
2] He and Jiminez come as a joint-ticket, they always have done.
3] Wise is available for free.
4] Wise has already been seen at the training ground running the rule over the squad, not exactly subtle from the prospective owners.
As someone whose views I have always held in the highest regard, I am very surprised and disappointed at your callous attitude towards Parkinson, he has been very badly treated given that we only had an eight player squad in July.
Southampton seemed to have cracked it home ?
On another thread there was a comment about Bradley Wright Philips not coming hear for £700,000 and someone saying don't know where that stories come from , which could mean we are not going to buy anyone with significant funds , if we do get promoted this season there will still be Charlton fans who are not happy ,( because of the way it was done etc) i've come to the conclusion that some Charlton fans are very rarely happy , whatever is done , no wonder there is such a negativity attached to this club at the moment , i wouldn't want to manage it , even if you gave me Parkys salary , its like an impossible task.
I hope we have reached the bottom now and the only way is up , hope is all that i can cling to supporting this club.
I hope the new owners have some quality players lined up for us to sign , as Nigel Adkins is promising supporters at Southampton at the moment , we have to keep up / better them.
And, thank heavens, our new owners recognised this, too.
Well done to Slater and Jiminez. They did what they had to do.Now let's move on. There's is no devine (sic) right, or even divine right. But things can only get better after the incompetence and lack of ambition we've endured in recent seasons - and I am confident that they will.
It's quite bizarre how all these posters who used to complain about the ''negativity'' of CL are now pouring out the negativity like never before. Cheer up everyone and let's unite in celebrating the dawning of a brave new era in Charlton history.[/quote]
Brave new eras are all well and good so long as they don't destroy the core.
Kent Cricket or Kent County Cricket Club?
One can debate the wisdom (or not) of sacking Parky and certainly, with the transfer window, if it was to be done it had to be done now.
However 2 days ago the new board were "sitting down with Phil" to see what was needed! The only comparable dismissal of a Charlton manager I can recall is when Mark Hulyer took Ken Craggs out for dinner and the next day he was out the door. I do not particularly want people of the morality of Mark Hulyer at the head of my Club for reasons obvious to any longterm Charlton fan over the age of 40.
How callous? True, he has made going to see Charlton full of dread rather than something one looks forward to; but I wish him well and have said so.
He's not been the best paid manager in English football over the last two years. But he makes a far better living than most Charlton fans, privileged to be doing something he loves and working in the game which he says is his life.
So I'd say he's a lucky blighter. Particularly as he will get paid off and he has better re-employment prospects than most of the tens of thousands who will lose their jobs in 2011 due to the cuts. He will pitch up soon enough at Preston or Palace or somewhere and will continue to earn several times as much as most Charlton Lifers.
Has he really been ''very badly treated''? Sorry, but I don't see that at all. He knows the name of the game. Didn't he walk out on Colchester straight after getting them promoted and with a year left to run on his contract? And why? Because someone offered him more money, of course. Then he was the beneficiary of Pardew getting the sack and had no problems about taking his mate's job (and nor should he).
I really don't believe I'm being callous towards him. But equally I'm damned well not going to feel sorry for the bloke.
Now if people would stop banging on about how poor Philip has been so hard done by , and remembered that Breaker and Kinsella are also out of work and one suspects have far inferior future job prospects to the privileged Parkinson, then I might take the violin playing a bit more seriously.
My view is that Parkinson was handed an absolute train-wreck by Pardew back in 2008 and given no funds at all to fix it up - simply because we had no money.
With no resources at all he took us within a point of promotion last season - with an ageing Deon Burton as our main striker whilst our rivals like Leeds had Beckford and Norwich Holt and Martin and Millwall had Morison - all of whom cost more than we could possibly afford.
This year he had the bones of a squad back in July - just eight senior pros - and has had to cobble together what he could on freebies, loans and just one cash signing, Paul Benson.
Yes, the football has been of poor quality in many games, but it has hardly been a disastrous season with us three points off second and through to the FA Cup 3rd Round, has it? Our away form has been brilliant, its just the home form that has been the problem.
What's more, with cash to strengthen the squad in January we would have had as good a chance as anyone of getting in the top two.
Still, that's all irrelevant now, Parkinson has gone and, in my view at least, certainly deserved better treatment than to be sacked one game into the new regime.
The key test will be who the new owners bring in, if it is "you know who" then I genuinely fear the worst.
I'm pretty sure that if the takeover hadn't happened, or even hadn't gone through by yesterday, then Parky would still be in a job as Richard Murray is too nice a bloke and too attached to the club to have sacked him after last nights debacle.
At least the new owners have had the courage to act after recent events..........much better than just sitting on the fence and waiting for things to happen
So far the new regime have said they weren't going to sack Parky, but less than a week later they have. They said Wise wasn't going to be involved - now he's favourite to take over as manager. Murray and Parky weren't perfect, but you knew where you were with them - the disagreements here were usually about whether what we had was just good enough to get promotion or not, and whether we were willing to put up with less than stellar football to achieve it. I'd like to be able to trust the new owners, but they're not exactly giving me any reason to so far. The uncertainty about what's going on at all levels of the club worries me, so I can't be all gung-ho about how this is the start of a bright new future.
By the end of February, we may have a new manager that has shot us to the top of the table while playing attractive football, and more clarity about the owners of the club, and their aims for the future, in which case I'll be happy to don my rosetinted specs once again. Or we may find it was another false dawn like the arrival of Pardew, and we're stuck with Dennis Wise and a bunch of overpriced and overpaid cloggers, and discovering that next year's season tickets have shot up in price to fund them, and we still don't know whether Jiminez and Slater actually have any significant financial backing.
Exactly, a lot of assumptions being made atm, especially ones like this:
When the only time Slater has mentioned him, is to flatly deny his involvement. Really can't see Wise being our next manager, would make Slater look far too stupid, I just don't think someone as intelligent as him would make a massive mistake like that.
Now a large proportion of the same fans are seemingly aghast at the prospect of the villainous Wise getting the job next week on the basis that he is a bully, a rogue, a taxi driver beating ne'er do well - with better managerial stats incidentally than Mr Pardew possessed at the time of his appointment that Christmas long ago..
As I am a simple man looking for guidance from really afar, who do I trust? This band of merry fans and my own 7 time zones away outside looking in instincts,whose judgement has been somewhat suspect on these matters in the past. Alternatively do I give a "it's your ball" nod to the big, bad ruthless new consortium who actually have to put their own money where their mouth is?? I mean it's their money that the boss gets to spend, so is it unreasonable that they get to choose the boss?
I'm not keen on Wise, but it's not my money and if they are going to put him there he will have my full support until such time as he proves his incompetence - and unfortunately for me Parky did that by the time his caretaker spell had propelled us deep into the relegation mire in Jan 2009.
Was'nt we all wanting and expecting major changes anyway with the new owners and new 'money' coming into the club?
It's great news that they have made an immediate impact and to me that sends out a message that they won't accept
mediocrity and are willing to do what they think is necessary to change the clubs fortunes around.
I, for one am feeling quite positive about the clubs future and really hope that everyone will support the new manager
whoever it is, and even if it is Wise, then PLEASE, let's make him feel welcome.....
If you look back to when the deal was supposed to go through 24th we have had 3 games so on top of the results prior to then, i think the new owners were always thinking about giving Parky up to the Spurs game if things didn't improve.
Personally i don't think he should have been appointed after his caretaker spell, but Murray probably didn't have much choice or more importantly more money to get someone in.
I think the new owners have done the right thing now, this league is very winnable from our current position and the right appointment could push us like we have seen with Norwich.
Wise doesn't bother me as an appointment, Poyet would be a great choice, I am surprised I haven't seen any calls for Di Canio this time around, but my preferred choice would be Houghton as i think he has a lot to offer as a coach and a manager
Unlike Len Glover (take your point though) as one of the old gits on here I do want to be dragged in to the modern world of football, even if it is merely to bring to a head this decline.
We have been slowly dyeing as a club with, as mentioned, a lack of unity in our supporters. The events on the pitch have been reminiscent to the 60's.
With regard to the uncompromising slaughter of our management team I think it is a relief even for those who have tried to rally behind Parkinson. In business the worst decision is to make no decision when they are needed in tough times. They have acted promptly with knowledge of more than one match and I think it is in the best interest of the club. On the human side no one like to see a decent bloke lose his job but this is the harsh world of football and you either sink or swim there is no floating in mediocrity.
I can see that the days of the football that I grew up with have changed, I can see why we have to adapt to survive, but I'm not yet sure that I want to be part of it. Already, there are rumblings that we won't be able to afford to keep the Academy, maybe there is no alternative, I don't know. And that essentially is the problem, there is so much I don't know at this stage. I'll turn up for games, I'll cheer for the team, (even though right now there's a few I'd like to kick very hard,), but I'll wait to see what unfolds before I embrace the new dawn.
But i've got this elastic strap around my waist attached to a machine brightly labelled CAUTION, and am very much in the aliwibble / stilladdicted mode of wanting to reserve judgement to see what emerges over the next few months.
Don't get me wrong, i desperately want to be signed up to the bright new future / unified approach more than anyone, but i'm not feeling it at the present. I'm not trusting the ownership of the club, and in turn i've not got any faith in the decision makers at the moment. There are too many unknowns for me at the moment.
Hopefully that will change in time and i look forward to singing their praises. But this time its not going to be dished out blindly, its going to have to be earnt a little first.
Even more brilliant.
At least we really knew who the owners were, who was behind that decision, and how they had built up their wealth...
I wonder if, contrary to popular opinion, that the threat of administration hasn't increased in the medium term
We're now hearing some Del Boy type guff of how Jimmeyz contacts will be vital. It looks like we will soon be returning to a transfer policy similar to Pardew's scattergun approach that includes a large percentage of loan players making up our squad.