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Frozen shoulder..

Now that we have sorted out Oracle and his dose of Sciatica, anybody on here ever experienced the joys of a frozen shoulder? I have recently been diagnosed with this condition in both shoulders. It started about 9 months ago and has been steadily getting worse. I went to hospital just before Xmas and had cortizone injections in both shoulders (and you should see the size of those needles!!) but this has made absolutely no difference. Anybody know how long I am likely to have to carry on suffering this??

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  • A few years back I had acupuncture for a shoulder injury...worked a treat...
  • I would have recommended Diclofenac but it sounds as if it can't be treated


    Looks like you're stuck with FS for the next 30 months
  • Pete, think my old man had this. Got to the stage where he could not lift either of his arms above his head. Fully fixed now, i'll fond out what he had done.

    Take it you won't be leading the 'Easy' chant when Bryan Hughes gets his hat trick tonight ???
  • My Father-in-law had this a couple of years back and the cortizone jab cleared it up a treat. I'm having pulse shortwave and ultrasound for a ligament problem in my shoulder. (the one that joins the shoulder to the collor bone) it bloody hurts when I punch the air I tell you! If that doesn't work, it's jabs for me.
  • I had similar problem about 18 months back. Some diclofenac and a few sessions of Physio sorted it out.
  • Physio is always good for the shoulders, as is a Ciropractor is your feeling brave
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKA Bartram[/cite]Pete, think my old man had this. Got to the stage where he could not lift either of his arms above his head. Fully fixed now, i'll fond out what he had done.

    Take it you won't be leading the 'Easy' chant when Bryan Hughes gets his hat trick tonight ???

    When Hughesie scored on Saturday it literally brought tears to my eyes as I threw my arms up in the air, followed by a scream of pain as I slumped to the ground clutching my shoulders. It has got so bad that it is almost impossible to reach behind me and very painful to raise my arms above shoulder level. As they are both so sore it also makes sleep pretty uncomfortable. No excuse for being late to work in 2007 then!!
  • waiting on a GP appt but pretty sure I have this, pain getting worse at times and sleeping on that side is a nightmare now.

    sometimes it doesn't hurt at all, but then I'll move in a certain way or do something and it's agony. Weirdly it hasn't hurt at all whilst playing football.

    looking at google, it seems it takes a while to recover from fully.

    looks like physio is the way forwards.

  • edited October 7
    Pull the duvet right up to your neck and leave the central heating on overnight 😉

    Hopefully the GP will sort you out soon 👍
  • waiting on a GP appt but pretty sure I have this, pain getting worse at times and sleeping on that side is a nightmare now.

    sometimes it doesn't hurt at all, but then I'll move in a certain way or do something and it's agony. Weirdly it hasn't hurt at all whilst playing football.

    looking at google, it seems it takes a while to recover from fully.

    looks like physio is the way forwards.

    My wife has had this in both shoulders, a few years ago. Sorry to say it is excruciating and lasted a long time. If I recall correctly she went to a specialist clinic who helped a lot. I'll ask her for details and post further.
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  • edited October 7
    I had this couple of years ago. Get a rubber belt off internet.   They are a foot wide by three foot long. Then it is just resistance exercises at different angles, you can find online. Notice improvement in days.
  • My FS lasted for months but eventually went of its own accord.
  • Maybe @DaveMehmet might have some exercise suggestions?
  • edited October 7

    I had it about 15 years ago in my left shoulder and I can sympathise - very painful.

    The GP basically said there was nothing he could do and that the body would repair the shoulder itself in around 12 months. He explained it by imaginging a rope and pulley, where the rope gets a little frayed.

    It went eventually - almost 12 months to the day (not sure that helps or what you wanted to hear!).

  • edited October 7
    Davo55 said:

    waiting on a GP appt but pretty sure I have this, pain getting worse at times and sleeping on that side is a nightmare now.

    sometimes it doesn't hurt at all, but then I'll move in a certain way or do something and it's agony. Weirdly it hasn't hurt at all whilst playing football.

    looking at google, it seems it takes a while to recover from fully.

    looks like physio is the way forwards.

    My wife has had this in both shoulders, a few years ago. Sorry to say it is excruciating and lasted a long time. If I recall correctly she went to a specialist clinic who helped a lot. I'll ask her for details and post further.
    @Elthamaddick

    My wife tells me the following (sorry, it's not good):

    - her case was about 15 years ago
    - it started in her left shoulder, moved over to the right and back again. I understand this is rare.
    - in all, hers lasted almost 5 years (but the condition was not as well understood or readily treated then)
    - at it's worse she could not raise her arms up more than a few inches

    But, more hopefully, she found a great clinic that specialised in this condition and made a huge difference. It might be in different hands now but she swears by Highgate Osteopaths. North London a bugger to get to, but worth it. Quite expensive, even then, but they fixed the problem when others had failed to diagnose and treat properly.

    http://www.highgateosteopaths.com/home/4594369795

    The technique they used then was developed by a guy called Simeon Niel-Asher. There's a very good book that my wife recommends.

    https://www.worldofbooks.com/en-gb/books/s-niel-asher/treat-your-own-frozen-shoulder/GOR005572458?keyword=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIne6k1quK5QIViaztCh2jWg5DEAQYAiABEgKu-vD_BwE

    Good luck with getting some help.

  • cheers @davo55 and others.

    all highlighting pretty much what I've read up on. Pain has gradually got worse over the past few months to the point now where I can't sleep on my left side.

    it's a very difficult pain to describe though, doesn't hurt all the time and as I said, I've still been playing football. seems to be more of a dull ache - much worse in the morning.


  • I had it a few years ago on one side. I was in a lot of pain,unable to raise the arm higher than my head, sleeping was hard work as was putting on shirts and coats. The doctor prescribed me for about three weeks worth of high anti inflammation drugs alongside paracetamol or ibuprofen (can't quite remember what it was) and it cleared it up for me.

  • Now that we have sorted out Oracle and his dose of Sciatica, anybody on here ever experienced the joys of a frozen shoulder? I have recently been diagnosed with this condition in both shoulders. It started about 9 months ago and has been steadily getting worse. I went to hospital just before Xmas and had cortizone injections in both shoulders (and you should see the size of those needles!!) but this has made absolutely no difference. Anybody know how long I am likely to have to carry on suffering this??
    Both shoulders for 4 years, some days nothing other days horrendous. Done physio, injections, stretching you name it. Nothing has worked. I'm 32 and this makes me feel 64, does me right in. I hope you dont suffer as long as me. I have been looking into CBD oil, heard some really good things about it. Might he worth giving that try. It's pure CBD so no concerns with THC content which is what makes you "high"
  • I had the pain in my left shoulder about 6 or so years ago. I first noticed it when I turned and stretched to pick something up off the floor by my desk at work. I didn’t do that again in a hurry. I had private health cover so went off to see a consultant and had an MRI scan - didn’t like that experience one bit to be honest. The consultant said that there’s 3 ways of treating it, surgery where they scrape out the crap that’s built up over the years of wear and tear, cortisone injections or, if I could manage the pain by avoiding picking things up on my left side etc, he’d recommend leaving it alone and it will right itself. I said I’d give the latter a try first. He was right. 
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  • I have suffered on and off with this for years. Normally starts after a poor night's sleep and when I have slept with my head tucked in on a shoulder - usually caused by insufficient pillow support. I find if I double up with good pillows and try and sleep with my head at at least 90 degrees to my body, it can clear-up quickly. If you can't manage that for whatever reason (eg movement) it can get worse and take weeks or months to clear. Good luck!
  • I was diagnosed with a frozen shoulder about 10 years ago. Medical insurance paid for a specialist opinion which was: 

    You can wait for it to go away on it's own and manage the pain meanwhile. This will normally take a long time (a year or so) and may not happen at all, depending in part on how much you elect to stretch the shoulder out.

    It is caused (I may have this a bit wrong) by a membrane that surrounds the shoulder joint and which is normally separated from the shoulder - presumably by some fluid - but which for reasons not entirely understood can shrink around the shoulder like clingfilm, hence 'freezing' it. In my case it was caused by a running accident but it is more common in diabetics apparently. 

    So the alternative to waiting for an improvement is to have the membrane 'inflated' using a surgical procedure (local anaesthetic, nothing major), followed by physiotherapy to get everything loose again.

    I went for the latter option and was back to normal about one month after the procedure, however I was told there is not an absolute guarantee of success. That was after living with the frozen shoulder for about 6 months - the longer you wait, the more physio required.
  • Now that we have sorted out Oracle and his dose of Sciatica, anybody on here ever experienced the joys of a frozen shoulder? I have recently been diagnosed with this condition in both shoulders. It started about 9 months ago and has been steadily getting worse. I went to hospital just before Xmas and had cortizone injections in both shoulders (and you should see the size of those needles!!) but this has made absolutely no difference. Anybody know how long I am likely to have to carry on suffering this??
    Paul Gascoigne was offered a Cortisone Injection once.  He turned it down, because he already had a flash car. 
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