Tom Cruise interviewed on radio earlier about Valkyrie.
Saying (paraphrasing) " I got the script and it's a fantastic thriller, from the first page to the last. Great characters and story i knew i had to be in the film............................And then i found out it's based on a true story!"
Nearly crashed the car with my Bemusement.
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Hollywood actor in small grey matter shocker...lol
Apparently, he wanted to do The Titanic with Kate Winslet, until they told him it sank in the end.
Wonder if he wanted to drop the shouty dude with the little moustach because his character was a "Bit unsympathetic..."? :-D
Why would he necessarily know that somebody tried to kill Hitler during WW2 - I know I didnt until I saw the trailers.
There are plenty of stories that get based around factual events (like Titantic, Pearl Harbour etc) but never necessarily happened at the time.
I don't think he was saying that he didnt realise WW2 was a "true story" or that Hitler was a "real" person!!
Anyway DR is the film good?
End of U-571 is funny. Entire film telling the audience about how important it is that the Americans capture the Enigma machine and then at the very end of the film have a few lines of print stating that the British had captured a machine a couple of months earlier (Can't remember if they went on to say that we then cracked the code but i doubt it).
No idea about Valkyrie.......I'm making a protests against America and it's Disney History culture and refusing to watch it :-)
Why would he necessarily know that somebody tried to kill Hitler during WW2 - I know I didnt until I saw the trailers.
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Fair enough, but the assassination plot by von Stauffenberg is quite well known. Though knowing Hollywood's habit of re-writing history I'm surprised that they didn't change the ending so Claus von S/Tom Cruise succeeds.
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The people responsible for cracking the code were Polish, although they were based in the UK.
A lot of the Enigma stories skirt over the fact that the poles had already started to crack it and we built on their work.
Fair point.....Our designed and built computers though ;-)
LOL - Don't think it was just the Poles but they certainly made a bigger contribution than is often recognised.
Typical Yank
Apart from when the Film is made and it was Bill Gates and Microsoft ofcourse ;-)
This is absolutely correct. The Poles had cracked the original Enigma machine, or were very close to cracking it. I think there is a grain of truth about the U Boats story in so far as the Marine Enigma Machines were complicated than the original ones with extra reels inside them. From memory it was pretty much impossibe to decypher their codes without the code books which were written on special paper so that the codes were destroyed in contact with water. It was thus imperitive, not only the machine but also the codes. I believe that the Americans may have done this although much work was done by us.
As for Valkyrie, well I'm looking forward to see the Hollywood treatment. I hope that is is reasonable close to the known facts, so as at least as someone has already said, it doesn't end with Hitler dead and the war ending 1n 1944 with the Americans shaking hands with Von Staffenberg in Berlin by the Reichstag!!
V.good !!!
Piano wire to be precise.
Yeah you do see some of them being lined up to be hung like that but it's more suggestive than gory (I don't think you see them actually being hung for instance). Firing squad scene is probably nothing he's not seen before either and again shot from a distance as it were. Wouldn't say it's likely to give him any nightmares Bing.
What about me?...:o)
GH, I do believe the Americans did get involved somewhere along the line, probably just to take the glory...:o). My best mates Mum worked at Bletchley Park during the war. To this day, and shes in her late eighties, she will not talk about the work they did.
As for the real story of Von Staffenberg, yes I knew that some were strung up, others were shot. Does Rommels involvement come into the story at all?
Tom Cruise was excellent as Stauffenberg and there were decent performances by a plethora of British actors including Kenneth Brannagh, and Bill Nighy.
It was a little like Titanic with eye patches in that we all know that the plot failed, but the way the kept the suspense going was good, plus the feeling that they were succeeding was well handled. I'm not absolutely familiar with all the characters in the story and don't have a forensically detailed knowledge of the plot but it did not seem to play fast and loose historically.
All in all well worth seeing.