Murray should now get some of his new found wealth and spend it on decent young ish players and some dogs of war in Jan and next summer to get us back up next year and get a proven manager in.
What a cock up this year bad choice of head bleeding coaches.
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Complacency set in during the last year or two of the Curbishley era, and after compounding that with the "Dowie fiasco" we're now going to pay the price.
I could go on all day, but I won't. It's too depressing/annoying.
You are right AFKA, I am afraid that Richard Murray has to take full responsibility for this. He and the board got too comfortable under Curbs but when he left they were found out big time. He tried to put a rather strange football management structure in place, which has never worked in any other football club, and he recruited Dowie because he said he would work within that structure. Dowie obviously soon realised how absurd the structure was and tried to work around it. Exit Dowie. Sticking to his misplaced belief in his new management structure, Les Reed automatically gets promoted to take over.
This new structure seems to be based on Richard Murray trying to avoid having to go out and find a new manager from outside the club again. A process which he admitted during the summer had been very stressful. Unfortunately as Richard Murray gets older he has less energy available to devote to the club, and make no mistake he has devoted huge amounts of time and energy (and money) over the last 15 years. I really do believe that in installing this infamous new structure he was trying to ensure that the club could run effectively with less input from himself. It was all done with the best of intentions, but unfortunately it has directly doomed us to relegation.
Just my thoughts. Anybody else?
Most managers seem to like to choose their own No.2, but obviously Dowie wasn't able to do that. Maybe that's why Billy Davies wanted time to think it over when he was the first one offered the job?
Fair enough, Dowie signed up to it, but for whatever reason it didn't work and now Reed and Robson have moved along a seat and it hasn't (yet) got any better.
I like what Reed has got to say for himself, but you can't help feeling he was the cheap and easy option. After all, if he was really rated as a potential manager, why wasn't he offered the job - or even go for it? - when Curbs left?
It is just choosing the wrong staff has been the problem, I don't think Mills does much more than take the burden of player sales and purchasing off of Murray and to a lesser or greater the manager. It would be nice to know.
How much input did Dowie have in the players we bought in is the big question very little and it is understandable his frustration as he effectively walked in to a situation where a player list had already been decided? You can't manage if the players coming in you either have a low or no opinion in. The players all seemed very Cubs targets.
It is just toooo depressing...
9 Million in parachute payments......
mascott, technically we wont lose 30mill, cos we wont get it to be able to lose it! this make sense (went to viceroy to drown sorrows, was bloody ok!)
If we havnt got it how can we lose it type thing.......
This new structure seems to be based on Richard Murray trying to avoid having to go out and find a new manager from outside the club again.
A process which he admitted during the summer had been very stressful. Unfortunately as Richard Murray gets older he has less energy available to devote to the club, and make no mistake he has devoted huge amounts of time and energy (and money) over the last 15 years. I really do believe that in installing this infamous new structure he was trying to ensure that the club could run effectively with less input from himself. It was all done with the best of intentions, but unfortunately it has directly doomed us to relegation.'
Red pete- i'm just back from Brammel Lane and believe you me i've had the full works of thoughts and emotions go through my mind. But at no time have i, will i blame Richard Murray. He's an honest man, who makes honest decisions.
I agree about the bit in the thread about this showing us just how good a manager Curbs was.
I am however bitterly disappointed, fed up, F'ed off, knackered and desperately needing to try and salvage some PMA.
But, i will not blame Richard Murray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's the problem because when you play rubbish, it's easy to see how to address it.
But the second goal killed the players and the fans- horrible!
We are too fluffy in midfield, Holland, Rommedahl and Ambrose offer no bite or defensive cover. Reed needs to come up with a formula just as Curbs did when he switched to 451 vs Spurs a couple of seasons back.
So we have to think out of the box. I am not an El Kark fan in the back four, Walton returns bring Gibbs in and go as follows
Carson, Young, Diawarra, HH, Traore Sam El Kark, Walton, Gibbs, Reid Bent. We need steel, fighters, a never say die attitude, resilience a will to win at all costs. I can forgive my Charlton if they hold these values presently I find it very difficult to continue to have hope. BUT whilst 69 points remain hope is what we must have plus a whole ,load of attitude
don't know what to say...
did the players come over at the end ?
Most of s put our head in our hands and just resigned outself to the almost inevitable
Didn't even feel antagonsm against the Blades fans- we could sense their relief
shame about the reult mind! How many CAFC there?
are you being sarcastic chirpy?
was a good noise- unusually for me - i was on the beers from 11.30 so my judgement is/was a tad impared.
Funny enough- and it's probably been said before- but the away suport was probably a whole lot better for the $hit position we are in.
I think the Reed & Robbo chant has killed me