Film question
A must see movie and cultural icon or a tired format now outstripped by the Bourne series.
Discuss.
Parenting question. Henry Jnr is going a school friend's 10th birthday party on Friday to see Q of S. A suitable film for 9/10 year olds or an indication of the decline in moral standards for our youth.
Discuss but only in a light hearted way.
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Bond is great, Daniel Craig is probably the best one.
Certainly don't think that, as a series it's beem outstripped by Bourne.
All i'd say about letting Henry Junior ( or any child of his age) go is that, as a parent only you can make a decision- My youngest (8) gets upset and scared at lots of stuff, but my eldest watched The Omen a week after her 14th birthday and although scared(as indeed her 46 year old dad is still) loved it and was able to have a really good discussion with me about what was good. Without getting too heavy, surely therefore if it's a represenation of any slipping standards it's that of parenting rather than moral standards ( present company excepted of course) and really it should be a parents decision, after all it'll be out on DVD shortly. I wonder if the birthday boy's parents have seen Q&S yet to consider taking a group of young children- i'd certainly have wanted too.
As an aside, if anyone does watch it, and i probably wont, whilst you are blown away with all the stunts and stuff, take a moment to appreciate the music- the guys in the orchestra are some of the very best players in the world..
Casino Royale was a fantastic film, and probably better then the Bourne's because Daniel Craig is a better lead then Matt Damon.
If you go and see films etc on the basis of a professional critic then you'd hardly ever see anything, especially if you listen to that bloke on Simon Mayo. Well you would but you'd end watching a load of arthouse self indulgent crap, but then some on here say they like that sort of thing, at least say they do.
Fook me....Something we agree on.
I'm going to go for a lay-down....;-)
I didnt realise there was much more violence that the last one?
We don't have too- but sometimes it's good to compare opinions.
On the subjest of reviews however i have some sympathy- have to say with most arts, i tend to not listen/ read reviews until i've seen/ heard something- and then it's good to compare opinions. IMHO of course... ;-)
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As for the second point, well I refused to let my son see Casino Royale.That said, he's managed to see the most graphic clips on You Tube round a friends house. My son is now 9 going on 10. To my way of thinking there is far too much exposure of kids to unsuitable materials but it's bloody hard to stop it even if you ban the stuff at home. My son goes to a school where there are boarders and children upto the age of 16 and he comes back with all kinds of lurid tales and play ground stuff. He then boasts that one of the older boarders brought in Silence of the Lambs and they sneaked into the dormitory and watched edited highlights of the most horrible bits.
It does of course depend on the specific child as to what they might find scary, troubling or desensitising. There is nothing particularly scary about James Bond but the more gritty realism of the current series, in my view, is unsuitable for my son. I will probably watch the new film first to make my own judgement.
On the general point though, yes I think there has been some decline in moral standards generally but I'm afraid that battle has largely been lost and as parents we have to tip toe as best we can across the minefield of whats is out there.
It's not helped though by the Film Certification because you have, on the one hand the later Harry Potter films which have have all been 12As yet are perfectly suitable for kids of 8 and above (They could have edited the Ron's swearing a tadge I suppose), and other the other hand ghastly films like Disaster Movie and Superhero Movie which are absolutely unsuitable for children under 12 (Arguably under 15). Then you come to the greatest dilemma of all - Boy in the Striped Pyjamas which is such a brilliant but incredibly powerful film that all human beings should be made to see, yet those have seen it say that it is too powerful even for 12 years olds. My son wants to go but I've said no, not until he's a bit older.
Not warmed to Caig to be honest despite really enjoying the last one. Heard rumours that this one isn't too great, but i'm sure i'll like it still.
No idea what is and what isn't acceptable for an 8-year old to be honest.
12A puts the reasonabilty in the hands of the parent, I don't really have a problem with that
Interesting point on Boy in the Stripped Pyjamas, Bing, as Lady Irving took Henry Jnr to see it as he had read the book. Not sure if he totally understood it but could relate to the two children who are the main characters and said his heart was "bumping" during the final sequence.
Bizarrely he wanted to know why there was no game of the film. This is logical as just about every film he sees is made into a DS/X-box etc game. He even designed a box and invented stages in the game (stage 3 - replace the gas in the showers with water without anyone noticing) which was very creative, i thought and quite sweet, but totally inappropriate as well.
Thanks and yes it is down to us as parents. To be fair the mother of the birthday boy did ring to ask. We said yes, he can go and see it but based on Casino Royale TBH rather than reviews of the Q of S
The franchise has only got better over the last 10-15 years due to better CGI and special effects, loved Brosnan in the role, one of the best, clinical character with added humour and smoothness, dont think Craig is a better actor overall but do like his whole presence on screen.
Surely Bourne is just another Mission Impossible jobbie ??
Bless, you should have heard the good Doctor on Friday, he though High School Musical 3 was a better film then QoS.
Toodles!
Having not seen Bourne movies neither do I but Kemode says that Bond had to take a step up to the Standard set by Bourne. No idea if that is true/valid.
Which Bourne movie should I get on DVD?
HMV box set, all three, £20+
Loads of bargains at HMV at the moment, all the original Planet Of The Apes films, £7.
Bond & Bourne are totally different for me, different styles, different agendas, Bond is pure fantasy in parts, Bourne films are a lot more intelligent with loads of sub plots, good films though, but Bond wins for me.
quantum of solace is the name of a fleming shorty story but the film has nothing to do with the plot.