I’m not getting into this Dowie IN / OUT malarkey but when will we learn to defend simple balls. The fact we had previously kept clean sheets in the league had more to do with the inability of the oppo than us if I’m honest!!
Fulham – Two stupid mistakes, 2 goals against, 0 points.
Man City – They should have had 1 / 2 goals from corners. A combination of good luck and good goalkeeping meant we kept a clean sheet.
Chesterfield – Set pieces 3 goals conceded and win on pens against a team that lost to Basingstoke!
Wigan – 2 long balls and a set piece, 0 points.
We have enough height and ability at the back so what the fuk is going on!! It MUST be down to the coaching staff, which makes Brownie going to Wet Spam all the more annoying
I’m really starting to get concerned!!
PS The “who should we get in instead” argument is not a valid one. Just because there doesnt "appear" to be anyone available to a club doesnt mean there isnt someone who would improve things.
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Who is responsible for our defensive coaching???
However I read that the wind was on the top end of ridiculous out there..... ' Jewell said you needed to be by the pitch to be able to appreciate it'
Thing is that cuts both ways.......
Steve Brown was a great defender, a legend. But doesn't make him a better coach than Les Reed. Les is an experienced coach who is highly regarded. I admit our defending has been alwful, but there was times under Day and Peacock when defending was also very sloppy.
Dowie spent alot of time last week working on tight marking at set pieces and zonal marking.. yet when it comes to Saturday split second of going asleep lets us down. This is why Dowie was "very dissapointed" with the goals we conceeded. Theres only so much a man can do, yet ultimately it comes down to the players to replica what they've done in training and if they don't then how is that Dowie's fault? Dowie can't teach Diawara to jump higher, or El Karkouri to actually mark hes player, its down to them.
The final comment is this, Charlton have been playing bad football for over a year now. We have'nt won back to back games in 44 outings. If it wasnt for the good start we got last season then we would have been in the same position we are now.
The players need to start giving more. I think Dowie deserves it.
Was the defending better or worse?
it was, the car was getting pulled sideways up the m6. couldnt open the car door in the car park and kids were struggling to stay on their feet when we were leaving the ground, being held onto by parents and that coupled with the lashing rain made it tricky playing conditions
so it did work both ways mascot, and to prove that we scored fairly early on in the second half but then we er let that 3rd in.
Yep, the first goal came from DeZuee missing his headed, and the second from Webster cocking up.
We all know things are bad but I do feel as though there are worse teams than us in the premiership this season.
My positivity might have been to high for saturday.. went into bookies and put £3 on Reid to score Charlton to win 1-0
110/1!
He must be on a knifeedge in the dressing room.... to much shouting and hell lose the team, go too soft and we keep turning out performances that result in zero points......
One other thing that really annoyed me yesterday was that match of the day put us down as having 65% possession and Wigan as 35%, yet NOTW they had Wigan as 57% and us as 43%.......
Also they got our figures wrong for our last 6 games saying we had drawn two and lost the rest!!!
Dan - let's just stay positive, some bad defending in extreme conditions, by hook or by crook we have been keeping clean sheets in the league for a while, let's hope we get back to that on Saturday.
Mate Im trying believe me!
Impossible to tell. Still adapting and i don't think he got to grips with the conditions on Sat. Has been excellent up to Saturday though.
The one thing comparing with players in the past is you generally only remember the good points. Rufus was class, no doubt about it, but though he should of been given a chance, he was not international quality, and his distribution for the bulk of his career was poor.
One bad game in atrocious conditions does not turn him into a bad player. To date he's played consistently well, and been our best defender and other than Darren Bent our best outfield player. I'd sooner judge what I've seen to date and if I was Reed/Dowie I'd be looking to tighten things up at set pieces where most of the goals have been coming from. Looked at positively we aren't letting in too many from open play.
Apart from two on Saturday - and given we've conceded 4 from set pieces in two games it's an effing good job!
Add the defending at Chelsea away when they scored from the corner.
We need to get a grip of the box. At the moment everyone is charging around without a clue. We need to bring another CB in January and thats a fact.
How about Hreidarsson, Sorondo and Gibbs? That's three centre-halves hopefully available before January!